Vegas Shooting: shooters spotted on roof next to stage, Evidence and proof

a reply to: NotFooledOct1

If you watch the video you can clearly see him walking around on the roof. All black as you said. I still want to know what those single shots at the beginning of the video are. They sound like a high powered rifle.

originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: NotFooledOct1

If you watch the video you can clearly see him walking around on the roof. All black as you said. I still want to know what those single shots at the beginning of the video are. They sound like a high powered rifle.

The Three first shoots came from this location most likely.....



You can see flashes comming from there when the shooting starts. If these are muzzleflahses, the shooter is shooting to the left. And not towards the stage.

The actuall shooters who targeted the spectators can be found here:



- The initial shooter that starts the shooting is located center stage where i have made the circle.

- The second shooter can be observed were i have made the circle to the right. This is the shooter who starts the second salvo after the pause from the initial shooting in that video.

- The Third shooter can be observed to the left were i made the circle. This shooter is overlaping the shooter to the right.

These shooter are dressed in black to be covered by the darkened back stage.

The muzzleflashes from these shooters are 100% accurate when it comes to a AR weapon With a suppressor.

a reply to: spy66

But the first shots came before the stage show lights went off.

The pic show the overhead stage lights already on.

a reply to: NotFooledOct1

Think you are jumping to multiple conclusion to fit the narrative that he had help...

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: spy66

But the first shots came before the stage show lights went off.

The pic show the overhead stage lights already on.

That is correct. The abowe is about what you can spot in this video sequance.

originally posted by: EternalShadow
a reply to: DerBeobachter


I don't know what's worse.... being asleep and hopeless, or being awake and helpless....

originally posted by: callmeanutcase2

originally posted by: EternalShadow
a reply to: DerBeobachter


I don't know what's worse.... being asleep and hopeless, or being awake and helpless....

[/quote For me it's being awake and helpless.... and not being able to go back to sleep.

On the second video you posted, there is clearly someone on the corner of the roof around 3:58 - if you go frame by frame, it appears he has a yellow security vest on. Not saying that qualifies or disqualifies anything - just what it looked like to me. I'll try to get a screen shot.

So here are the screenshots. This is the part I saw. It's hard to tell it's a person from the screenshots but you're right - when you watch the video, he moves. On one of the shots, there is a bright flash but kind of looks like a flashlight? I zoomed in really close on Photoshop and took a screenshot to show what I am talking about.

On the first three photos, I just opened in Photoshop to draw the circle. You can see in the video at 3:58, these are exactly what is on the screen. Again, on the 4th photo, I zoomed in and took a screen capture. The zoom is of picture 1. I suppose the bright light could have been a video artifact in addition to possibly being a flashlight. Just can't tell!

originally posted by: oddnutz
That building has a viewing platform ontop for concert goers by the look of it.
Same with the identical structure on the opposite side.

Having worked in the Crew industry, setting up for events like this festival I can say with some certainty that these could be VIP viewing areas or perhaps lighting/camera platforms.

originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: NotFooledOct1

If you watch the video you can clearly see him walking around on the roof. All black as you said. I still want to know what those single shots at the beginning of the video are. They sound like a high powered rifle.

The Crew working the festival would be wearing all black, those in the arena would wear high visibility vests but stage crew wouldn't. His seems to be in a non public area. My guess is crew.

Whoever said the stage is blocked off, believe me, if people wanted to get on the stage, they would. It's not like Fort Knox, the barricades are only about 4ft high, easily jumped over. If I'd been in that crowd the stage would have been my hiding place of choice....

a reply to: flice

Such claims sound very sus to me. They are nothing more than supposition, which sounds to me like the kind of things someone trying to kill the story would say.

originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: flice

Such claims sound very sus to me. They are nothing more than supposition, which sounds to me like the kind of things someone trying to kill the story would say.

Really? To me I see someone questioning everything, which is why a lot of us came to ats, before it got so political

Reply to : djz3ro


I said that. It would not be Natural to evacuate through the stage. Vi are not programmed to do that. We would head for the exists. Climb the walls... And that is what happened. How many evacuated through the stage?

I never said it was impossible. It is just not what People would do. The only time that would happen is if the shooters were shooting from behind them.

These People were not shot at from behind, or from the sides. They were shoot at from back stage. That is also why they evacuated to the exists to the rear. It would probably be to the front from you point of view.


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Were was the crew who worked the stage?
where did they evacuate to?

would they evacuate and hide in one of the trailers parked behind the stage, when there is this kind of hooting going on?

They would fallow some kind of evacuation plan probably, or run for their lives. What kind of plan would that be in a case like this? You have had this as a job. Maybe you can inlighten us.


The reason i ask is because People dont seam to care much about them. Or any of the People who were back stage.

It seams like everyone who was on the stage and behind the stage were safe..... why is that?

a reply to: djz3ro

you are correct in fact in some diagrams their listed as VIP area, and gate 2b is the VIP gate.


coca cola sky box

a reply to: NotFooledOct1

here ya go, in this image you can see celling/roof joist that are in your image in this post. Your post
i also posted image of people on the roofs of the Coca Cola VIP sky boxes.
there were people up on the roofs just not shooters, more than likelythe flashes are just cameras.

i know that simple plain facts don't jive with people's imagination, but it's the plain and simple truth.

a reply to: spy66

It seams like everyone who was on the stage and behind the stage were safe..... why is that?

see all the buildings, see all the trucks, see all the spots someone could hunker down, lots of places they couldn't have been seen from. you said all that yourself.

not only that the shooter was going for easy kills not picking people off, there was to much back stage for that.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie


This was something else.... The shooters were not going for easy kills. They vere just sviping the crowd they dident pick People out. This was more like to create a terror effect. They were trying to simulate what shooting from the 32 floor would seam like. Their mission was to create the effect.

a reply to: spy66