Tom DeLonge Anouncement: October 11th 9:00 AM PST/12:00 PM EST

a reply to: SacredLore

I think this guy, Wilcock, with all due respect to him and his followers, suffers a modern disease: I want to be somebody—another YouTube star is all he can get. He talks reasonable then all of a sudden has the need to be “on the inside” with these “insiders” and all this secret crap he talks about: thousands of arrests of the deep state members....Wizard of Oz stuff!

Like many Dave Icke and Steven Greer he has a need to be on the inside and have all this secret knowledge.

He does often come up with good stuff but then goes into fantasy and this ridiculous
“the insiders say’ nonsense. These insiders all in his head I believe.

My inside says he out of his _f___ing mind

a reply to: Willtell

I think they all are. Or are unwitting stooges.

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: Caver78

So, you DO know for sure from whom and where TTS got the two videos? Or even one of them. So you're saying Luis Elizando brought the videos with him? Do you know this for sure, or is this your educated logical speculation?

And why are you lecturing to me about Tom Delonge? I have been ultra-critical of him and his claims from day 1. I didn't bring up anything to you about Tom Delonge.

Are you a veteran? (I am)

Luis Elizondo admitted himself that he procured ONE of the video's and apparently a multitude of reports before he resigned. So Yeah, one video came from him.

The rest of the information will also be coming from him as he's the only one who has any. Unless in a shocking move more Govt people step forward.

One thing that has not been said, asked or acknowledged is just how to you quit a govt job, take files video's with you, admit it on TV and NOT get prosecuted? This rabbit hole goes way deep.

originally posted by: Caver78

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: Caver78

So, you DO know for sure from whom and where TTS got the two videos? Or even one of them. So you're saying Luis Elizando brought the videos with him? Do you know this for sure, or is this your educated logical speculation?

And why are you lecturing to me about Tom Delonge? I have been ultra-critical of him and his claims from day 1. I didn't bring up anything to you about Tom Delonge.

Are you a veteran? (I am)

Luis Elizondo admitted himself that he procured ONE of the video's and apparently a multitude of reports before he resigned. So Yeah, one video came from him.

The rest of the information will also be coming from him as he's the only one who has any. Unless in a shocking move more Govt people step forward.

One thing that has not been said, asked or acknowledged is just how to you quit a govt job, take files video's with you, admit it on TV and NOT get prosecuted? This rabbit hole goes way deep.

That happens when your an intelligence operation.

The same thing was done with Richard Doty.

a reply to: Caver78

He didn't steal the video or anything. It was declassified so he could share it. That's my understanding. So it is more of a situation of a crumb that the IC was willing to release rather than an Edward Snowden of UFOs kind of thing.

ETA: the angle TDL is approaching this from is one of respect for the IC, and one that shows them in a good light, which is why he's made so much progress. You may choose not to trust that but that's your prerogative. Maybe these aren't "bad guys" though?? Just maybe???

What makes some normal guy who signs up for the IC suddenly an evil deep-state world-destroyer? Or are they there doing a job and trying to understand something so bizarre and possibly threatening that is outside known physics and is real enough to be seen, tracked on radar, and to leave materials behind? I'm not saying they always made awesome choices, like the ridicule campaign and such, but do you think they were motivated to destroy democracy or kill America? Or to protect America, and try to figure out what this strange phenomenon was and possibly make use of it technologically before the Russians and Chinese did?

Again, I'm not saying it was handled perfectly in my opinion, but if, say Germany was trying to use this tech for purposes of war back in Hitler's day, then maybe the fear that one of our enemies would figure out how to use the physics or tech of the phenomenon against us wasn't so unfounded? Maybe they thought it should be under wraps like the nuclear program was??

Just food for thought.

a reply to: Iridomyrmex

originally posted by: Willtell
I think this guy, Wilcock, with all due respect to him and his followers, suffers a modern disease:

My inside says he out of his _f___ing mind

Touche. I've followed his stuff for 10+ years on and off and quickly learned a few things:
- he steals others research, with not attribution
- he lies A LOT
- he keeps lying when he is caught
- he distorts the truth and really has no real grasp on many of the scientfic findings he keeps peppering into his 'research'
- He needs be seen all the time, he seems to suffer from some sort of narcissistic complex (?)

With that said, he's a useful aggregator of all sorts of stuff. You just need to verify EVERYTHING he says/writes, because of all the lies, minsunderstandings and distortions embedded.

Now, back to the meat of the matter:

Dreamland Year End Show (Dec 22) has a big list of people talking about the DoD 'disclosure', higly recommended:

Whitley Strieber's Dreamland Year End Show Part 2

Contents:
Dr. Jeff Kripal on myth and UFO disclosure: 0:00:00
Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka on new UFO discoveries: 0:22:25
Peter Levenda on the future of To the Stars:1:07:06
Ralph Blumenthal, co-author of Times Dec. 16 UFO disclosure story: 1:27:24
Leslie Kean, co-author of Times Dec. 16 UFO disclosure story: 1:46:50
Grant Cameron on disclosure as it will unfold in 2018: 2:03:35
Linda Moulton Howe on a Harvard Astronomer's disclosure reaction: 2:22:04

These are actual researchers, who talk to pepole, have source, go to librariers and even do field work. Whether you believe them or not, is another matter, but in my book their findings weight 1000000000000x more than five thousand Poppycocks....

a reply to: SacredLore

Websites glitches again....this has happened before.

a reply to: KansasGirl

Gun camera footage is likely the only thing that can get close enough. I wouldnt expect anything else to be declassified.

a reply to: Pathaka

Thanks for that link. Peter alavenda co-wrote the non-fiction book (part 1, Gods) with TDL and I'm trying tinget a fuller understanding of the "theory of the phenomenon" they are working with.

originally posted by: SacredLore


And as of December 25th 2017 18:21h UTC, the To The Stars... Acacemy has now 0 investors and 0$ US$. That thing came crashing down harder than Bitcoin. And NO, my dear debunkers, this picture is not CGI :-)

And where did my money go??

This is now on the TTSA site:

**Please excuse us while the FundAmerica technical team repairs an error in the “Investors” and “Amount Raised” tracker. Note that this has no impact on the Invest Now functionality and we are still actively accepting investments.

Who is messing with TTSA? It still reads $0! Someone is trying to undercut their efforts.

a reply to: vlawde

Are you serious?

OMG what are they doing?

Maybe laundering money to the aliens

Maybe they should go on shark Tank?

originally posted by: Pathaka

originally posted by: Willtell
I think this guy, Wilcock, with all due respect to him and his followers, suffers a modern disease:

My inside says he out of his _f___ing mind

Touche. I've followed his stuff for 10+ years on and off and quickly learned a few things:
- he steals others research, with not attribution
- he lies A LOT
- he keeps lying when he is caught
- he distorts the truth and really has no real grasp on many of the scientfic findings he keeps peppering into his 'research'
- He needs be seen all the time, he seems to suffer from some sort of narcissistic complex (?)

With that said, he's a useful aggregator of all sorts of stuff. You just need to verify EVERYTHING he says/writes, because of all the lies, minsunderstandings and distortions embedded.

Now, back to the meat of the matter:

Dreamland Year End Show (Dec 22) has a big list of people talking about the DoD 'disclosure', higly recommended:

Whitley Strieber's Dreamland Year End Show Part 2

Contents:
Dr. Jeff Kripal on myth and UFO disclosure: 0:00:00
Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka on new UFO discoveries: 0:22:25
Peter Levenda on the future of To the Stars:1:07:06
Ralph Blumenthal, co-author of Times Dec. 16 UFO disclosure story: 1:27:24
Leslie Kean, co-author of Times Dec. 16 UFO disclosure story: 1:46:50
Grant Cameron on disclosure as it will unfold in 2018: 2:03:35
Linda Moulton Howe on a Harvard Astronomer's disclosure reaction: 2:22:04

These are actual researchers, who talk to pepole, have source, go to librariers and even do field work. Whether you believe them or not, is another matter, but in my book their findings weight 1000000000000x more than five thousand Poppycocks....

Thanks much--I will listen to this!

a reply to: AboveBoard

One thing after following UFO stuff for years you find everyone has an agenda, nothing is ever what it appears, there is ALWAYS a backstory and usually an unsavory one.

It's perfectly ok to read everything, consider what's said then wait another ten-twenty years for the actual truth to come out in the wash. Cause it usually does.

It'd be unexpectedly refreshing if this time was different, but only time will tell. Nobody would be happier than me if all this pans out into a "Hard Disclosure" but in reality so many people have cried wolf over the years it's to the point unless they can say how, when ,where, who the alleged aliens are most people are going to rightfully give them side-eye.

a reply to: Caver78

I totally get that. The UFO "community" is jaded. Every now and then some theorist or other swooped in with his amazing story, his claim to bona fides and, yes, a book out on the lecture circuit, and maybe even a documentary. People got excited. People bought the book and went to lectures, watched the movie with buckets of popcorn, maybe even donated money to "research," and maybe there was even a brief media moment.

Then the whole thing started unraveling and people felt like idiots for ever trusting or believing anything. And thus they vowed, at least to themselves, never to be made a fool of again.

Competitive skepticism became a reaction to getting screwed over and so both skeptics and the non-skeptics danced around each other with their swords out, dueling in mortal combat to claim the truth. And when that got old, the tired response to new info became "meh."

Still, there are those who've seen the truly unexplainable and who look up sometimes, hoping there will be an explanation before they die.

So yes, TDL benefits from the meager morsels of ill-used hope that still cling to this topic, and yes, there are dewy-eyed newcomers who seem to believe everything, and the world keeps spinning, and only time will tell if the latest installment of "the truth is out there and we've got it" is another insult, or a glimpse of the fey strange trickster phenomenon that slips through the cracks of our safely known world, and calls us, taunts us, to follow...

It should be fairly noted that TDL also gets the slings and arrows of those who reflexively shoot down anything with acerbic rapidity that dares to claim "real knowledge" of this mystery.

Wide eyed belief and automatic doubt are both easy here. The harder thing is to sit in the discomfort of not knowing and wait patiently to see where the path leads that is being laid before us, without cultish acceptance nor well worn scorn. And maybe a smidgen of hope, however foolish or wise that may be in the end.

Peace,

AB

www.newsweek.com...

Could be pertinent to the Delonge Tech announcement.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

tl;dr
it's not. it's pertinent to superconductors and perhaps computing. weyl fermions are quasiparticles. you're not making a spaceship out of one.


longer answer:
they are talking about the discovery of a type of weyl fermion. if you dig deep enough into weyl fermions you'll see terms like massless. its not what your thinking. to understand why not better read up on weyl fermions and on quasiparticles pertaining to fermions and electrons(leptons) and collective excitations in regards to bosons, plasmons and phonons. to learn more about fermions and leptons in general read up on charge and spin. (matter/antimatter) to learn more about how weyl fermions tie into the quantum theory of fermions in general read up on dirac fermions, majorana and weyl fermions and understand their theoretical differences. get a basic understanding of that and youll see it has nothing to do with eliminating inertial mass or got anything to do with delonge and his propounding on bismuth magnesium terahertz blasted material and mass loss. delonge is unwittingly talking about yet another type of superconductor also. but let him believe he's talking about inertial mass reduction. another thing to consider even if delonges arts parts material was able to reduce mass to zero like he says it does it still wouldn't allow the occupants or parts inside a ufo to be mass less or immune to inertia or g forces or the effects of relativity. what you'd need in real life is something to sheild the test mass (the ufo and it's innards ) from the effects of Mach's Principle.

a reply to: AboveBoard

That's one of the best summaries I have read on the subject. I actually read it twice and thrice and my appreciation grew even more. Brilliant post.