Tom DeLonge Anouncement: October 11th 9:00 AM PST/12:00 PM EST

a reply to: thepixelpusher

Aaaaand you know all the capabilities of earthly craft? See jumps in logic.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

You pretend to judge my sighting without any knowledge of what I saw. How typical and expected of you. In the motto of ATS I will deny your ignorance.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Well we only know what has been shared with us. What I saw was a reflective object going at a very high speed turn instantaneously at a right angle with no drop in speed but rather an increase in speed, that accelerated out of my ability to keep track of it with my telescope that was being operated by hand at the time.

I considered a lot of things, like perhaps a space debris collision resulting in the appearance of the same object changing directions. But at no time did the brightness change or blink out, it really seemed to be a single object that suddenly changed direction and sped up at a velocity I have never seen in the night sky before or since. It is not much of a challenge for me to track objects with my scope by hand, I'm quick at the controls at this point.

Can the military do that? Man I hope so.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

Hey your the ones making crazy assumptions and jumps of logic.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Hey forgive me as I'm sure you've already been all over this topic in the aviation forum, but what did you think about Astr0? Did you think he was legit?

a reply to: spleenika

At the least, you may have a laugh at my expense, I won't mind.

Why would I laugh? But I could point out that what you are claiming could well be nothing more than rationalization.

a reply to: Phage

Indeed. It's a personal theory of mine, with no evidence. It is certainly me trying to game out in my head explanations for reports that I ended up believing. If X is true, they why, how? I happen to be one that believes in advanced alien life as both likely, and probably even common. And I believe some of the reports of abductions and such, so indeed I search for a rationalization as to why and how. I always liked the phrase "Magic is just technology we haven't discovered yet."

I hope you enjoyed my crackpot theory on the how.

a reply to: spleenika

Who is Astr0?

originally posted by: spleenika
a reply to: BASSPLYR

Hey forgive me as I'm sure you've already been all over this topic in the aviation forum, but what did you think about Astr0? Did you think he was legit?

Are you kidding. Jokers like astro fart about the oort cloud and go there for a pint. C'mon now

a reply to: thepixelpusher

He was a well known member of the Aviation forums, who typically didn't stray into any of the "weird" stuff, and usually just talked about planes and stuff very knowledgeably. He exited ATS with a bit of a bang, leaving behind a very good read, of what one would say was some very controversial stuff.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

If you like going down rabbit holes, its a fun read. And was it true? Heck if I know but he claimed it was.

So I want to repent for my role in some thread drift, and try to get back on topic.

The NY Times article brings up a connection I have been looking more closely at. Robert Bigelow is mentioned in the article as warehousing in Nevada metal alloys recovered from UAP's, by Luis Elizondo as part of the pentagons newly disclosed UFO threat identification program. Now as interesting as that is, what I am on about is the connection between Bigelow and Tom's TTS Academy seem deeper then just a casual reference in the NY Times article.

Colm A. Kelleher is a Harvard research scientist and biologist. The link I included with his name is to a science research website, that lists his employer as Bigelow Aerospace. However these days Colm Kelleher is listed as a member of Tom's To The Stars academy team on their website. And this interests me in two ways. First, it seems Bigelow is more involved in TTS then has been publicly stated. People following TTS closely already know there is private funding going on besides the meager shares being sold. Is Bigelow the real head honcho behind the scenes at TTS? Bigelow is a billionaire, and Tom Delonge is worth $60 million by the way, to those who think this is just a scam for Tom to raise a couple million from selling a book and selling some shares, everyone that is on Tom's team including Tom are not in dire need of money worth dragging all of their good names through the mud for a scam.

And I am interested in Colm Kellehers connection to TTS for a second reason. He wrote the book on Skinwalker Ranch (which was famously purchased by Robert Bigelow). It seems like this ranch is somehow connected to this puzzle Tom's TTS academy is drip feeding the public and I need to look at it more seriously. Now I haven't read the book, and honestly don't know the details about this ranch very well. I've heard it talked about a lot, including in private circles here in Utah. But how in the world does this fit into the story that is playing out before our eyes?

Does anyone have any theories or ideas about any of this?

a reply to: spleenika

Does anyone have any theories or ideas about any of this?

I haven't really changed my view since I posted way back in October this year.

The US government is not disclosing UFOs are real. The US government (and many others) have never denied UFOs are real. They have had projects like Grudge, Sign, Bluebook and this "Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program" we are discussing to investigate UFOs. However undeniable evidence that even one UFO is/was an alien spacecraft has not been forthcoming.

DeLonge is just the poster boy. He's said in radio interviews he calls everyone "Sir!" and basically puckers up and does what he's told. He will get an entertainment media business out of this and that will be used to fund the salaries of his team once the investor money has been used up. His team are a bunch of guys who disagree with the DoD that study of UAP (read UFOs) is basically futile and produces very little useful data. The DoD are happy to release 'some' non-sensitive data because it also serves their own purposes.

Former Project Bluebook scientist J.Allen Hynek said about the whole phenomenon in his final interview (1985)

"We don't have UFOs, only UFO reports."

Which, despite what people may think about Roswell, and all the other crashed UFO stories was probably the truth then and probably still the truth now.

This is where Bigelow comes in. He wants to get himself a real UFO for proper study. But his role is also tied into the objectives of the US DoD and intel communities. So what we see and get in public is a lot of misdirection and obfuscation whilst Bigelow does his thing to achieve his objective, Tom DeLonge does his thing to achieve his objective and the people at US DoD sit back with a wry smile having achieved their objective.

* THIS IS A THEORY. I AM NOT STATING ALL OF THE ABOVE AS ABSOLUTE FACT. JUST MY IMPRESSION BASED ON A FEW THINGS I'VE SEEN AND HEARD DOWN THE YEARS*

a reply to: spleenika

What I saw was a reflective object going at a very high speed turn instantaneously at a right angle with no drop in speed but rather an increase in speed, that accelerated out of my ability to keep track of it with my telescope that was being operated by hand at the time.

I saw the exact same thing, at night, with the naked eye, only this 'light' disappeared into the only cloud on the horizon.

The abrupt angular change of direction with no radius of turn was the kicker for me. Not that I wasn't already jaw dropped by the velocity and its silent, no noise at all, bluish light profile.

Nothing man made moves that way.

I like Metabunk calling it a hoax and simply
a large mylar balloon in the shape of a number one.
Mike West and Joe Rogan had a field day with this
West saying he found the actual stock photo of the mylar
“1” used’ so case closed ...HOAX...
What’s that? Oh it was a real video released
from DOD ?

a reply to: UnderKingsPeak

Pretty sure the F-18 Pilot knows what a mylar balloon looks like, certainly not the size of a commercial plane, and at the altitude the UFO was at the mylar balloon would have popped long before that. Hoax this is not. Joe Rogan is a tool, and is just saving face after attacking DeLonge.

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak

I like Metabunk calling it a hoax and simply
a large mylar balloon in the shape of a number one.
Mike West and Joe Rogan had a field day with this
West saying he found the actual stock photo of the mylar
“1” used’ so case closed ...HOAX...
What’s that? Oh it was a real video released
from DOD ?

I watched that episode.

They didn't show any photo or video that Rogan and West were talking about during that podcast, so why on earth would you assume it's the F-18 recording released by TTS well after that podcast? DeLonge has shown us fakes before, so it's certainly plausible he posted a #1 balloon which they didn't show in the podcast. This is the photo of the object West says he thinks is a #1 balloon:


www.metabunk.org...

im not sure if this part has been isolated yet so ill post it

Hey guys, I found the mylar balloon they used in the Phoenix lights.


Also this is the mylar balloon they used in every single saucer sighting ever.


My goodness this is easy, why didn't I get into the debunking business earlier?

originally posted by: spleenika
Hey guys, I found the mylar balloon they used in the Phoenix lights.
...
My goodness this is easy, why didn't I get into the debunking business earlier?

You're not very good at it. The Phoenix lights were first airplanes, then flares.

There shouldn't be any doubts about the flares. Some people debate the planes explanation because they fail to realize how unreliable eyewitnesses can be, but there really shouldn't be so much debate about that because evidence that eyewitnesses can be unreliable is extensive.

originally posted by: spleenika
So I want to repent for my role in some thread drift, and try to get back on topic.

The NY Times article brings up a connection I have been looking more closely at. Robert Bigelow is mentioned in the article as warehousing in Nevada metal alloys recovered from UAP's, by Luis Elizondo as part of the pentagons newly disclosed UFO threat identification program. Now as interesting as that is, what I am on about is the connection between Bigelow and Tom's TTS Academy seem deeper then just a casual reference in the NY Times article.

Colm A. Kelleher is a Harvard research scientist and biologist. The link I included with his name is to a science research website, that lists his employer as Bigelow Aerospace. However these days Colm Kelleher is listed as a member of Tom's To The Stars academy team on their website. And this interests me in two ways. First, it seems Bigelow is more involved in TTS then has been publicly stated. People following TTS closely already know there is private funding going on besides the meager shares being sold. Is Bigelow the real head honcho behind the scenes at TTS? Bigelow is a billionaire, and Tom Delonge is worth $60 million by the way, to those who think this is just a scam for Tom to raise a couple million from selling a book and selling some shares, everyone that is on Tom's team including Tom are not in dire need of money worth dragging all of their good names through the mud for a scam.

And I am interested in Colm Kellehers connection to TTS for a second reason. He wrote the book on Skinwalker Ranch (which was famously purchased by Robert Bigelow). It seems like this ranch is somehow connected to this puzzle Tom's TTS academy is drip feeding the public and I need to look at it more seriously. Now I haven't read the book, and honestly don't know the details about this ranch very well. I've heard it talked about a lot, including in private circles here in Utah. But how in the world does this fit into the story that is playing out before our eyes?

Does anyone have any theories or ideas about any of this?

I thought the same thing when I read Colm was on the team. The book is a good read, I'd recommend checking it out.

I think it's very possible the ranch activity is connected to all this. The ranch had all kinds of activity, cryptids, UFO's, paranormal activity, cattle mutilations and just crazy stuff. To me, that points to the UAP phenomena and the ranch activity as likely coming from the same source. I've always felt that if we could understand the ranch, our outlook on many things would be significantly changed.

George Knapp seems to be at least peripherally involved in TTSA, and perhaps more involved in the ranch, with the reported upswing in activity there. Earlier this year he said he couldn't talk about it in connection to an article saying more details would be forthcoming, and has championed Tom Delonge on social media.

Interdimensional? Time travel? Military experiments? Aliens? Whatever all this is, UFO's and the ranch are (IMO) likely the one and the same thing