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originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
I'm sorry that spoiled rich people offended you, your country and your military.
Damn shame it is.
Why are you sorry? How are you responsible?
I am not asking you to do anything.
Also, over 50% of Americans agree that this is disrespectful behavior.
It isn't just me.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: ZombieZygote
originally posted by: Metallicus
We finally have an NFL owner who 'gets it' regarding the flag protests. The NFL can fine players for wearing the wrong clothes, celebrating on the field and even hitting someone wrong, but apparently they lack the balls to force players to stand for the Anthem. As employers the NFL has the absolute right to require certain behavior of employees that affects their public facing product.
I know some people say they aren't disrespecting the flag, but they ARE. Regardless of WHY they think they are doing it they ARE doing it and pissing off a lot of people in the process.
Anyway, it is good to see at least one owner has had enough of their childish behavior. If it isn't about disrespecting the flag then why not kneel during the two minute warning or some other time during the game?
Exactly, it IS about disrespecting the flag and the men and women who fought for the U.S.
ARLINGTON, Texas -- Dallas Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said emphatically his players will stand for the national anthem and not disrespect the flag, and if they do, then the player or players will not play.
"If there's anything that is disrespectful to the flag, then we will not play," Jones said after the Cowboys' 35-31 loss to the Green Bay Packers. "Understand? We will not ... if we are disrespecting the flag, then we will not play. Period."
Source
I typically agree with you, but even if they were intending to "disrespect the flag and what it stands for", which they have repeatedly explained otherwise, the flag stands for the right to display this exact behavior. Whether you agree with it or not. They are hurting nothing but perhaps feelings. Oh well.
It is irrelevant what they intended since they actually are perceived to be disrespecting the Anthem, the Flag and the military. What they should do is apologize for their screw up and say we will promote our cause in an inclusive way that won't affect our employer's public facing product.
They screwed up and people are boycotting and their message is completely lost because they are pissing off half the country. Perception IS reality here and they need to find a better way to bring attention to their agenda.
in what fhucking court of law in this country where you are guilty of perception...
so it doesn't matter what they're doing, what matters is what other people think about it?
what tosser would agree to that system
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
I'm sorry that spoiled rich people offended you, your country and your military.
Damn shame it is.
Why are you sorry? How are you responsible?
I am not asking you to do anything.
Also, over 50% of Americans agree that this is disrespectful behavior.
It isn't just me.
Hopefully if they're all adults they can get over it.
There are real issues and policies voting Americans can put their care and attention to rather than drama faux outrage.
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
I'm sorry that spoiled rich people offended you, your country and your military.
Damn shame it is.
Why are you sorry? How are you responsible?
I am not asking you to do anything.
Also, over 50% of Americans agree that this is disrespectful behavior.
It isn't just me.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
I'm sorry that spoiled rich people offended you, your country and your military.
Damn shame it is.
I am not the only person it offends and what do YOU need to apologize for?
I wasn't really apologizing. I have faith any adult can get over hearing something they don't like.
originally posted by: Metallicus
We finally have an NFL owner who 'gets it' regarding the flag protests.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Metallicus
We finally have an NFL owner who 'gets it' regarding the flag protests.
I see that as "we finally have an NFL owner who "puts politics in front of sports during sports" regarding the flag protests.
What a snowflake.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
For sure.
Both sides want there to be "justice" for opposing views. Both act high and mighty.
And yet here we are, a country full of offended "adults".
Damn shame, I'm young, but "back in my day" people could say things you didn't agree with.
Oh, the good ol'days.
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Metallicus
We finally have an NFL owner who 'gets it' regarding the flag protests.
I see that as "we finally have an NFL owner who "puts politics in front of sports during sports" regarding the flag protests.
What a snowflake.
WHY are they kneeling during the Anthem and not any other time during the game if they aren't trying to disrespect the Flag? If it isn't about the Flag then they should be able to kneel any time...problem solved.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
Well, hopefully our president addresses this. Foremost priority is spoiled people must respect the flag.
Healthcare, hemorrhaging money in wars where no government attacked us and debt will come after we get these rich people in line.
Drain the swamp! Extra rules!
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
Drain the swamp! Extra rules!
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Metallicus
We finally have an NFL owner who 'gets it' regarding the flag protests.
I see that as "we finally have an NFL owner who "puts politics in front of sports during sports" regarding the flag protests.
What a snowflake.
WHY are they kneeling during the Anthem and not any other time during the game if they aren't trying to disrespect the Flag? If it isn't about the Flag then they should be able to kneel any time...problem solved.
Why do you think it's about the flag?!
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
Who cares? Since when did we care what celebrities did?
By the way, the players coming out for it is only 2009 thanks to DoD grants for patriotism(nationalism).
For the record, it's poor taste in protest in my opinion. That being said, they're rich and famous playing a sport I don't care about.
Maybe we should focus on the DoD successfully taking over the NFL for wars no one supports. Or not, whats the difference at this point.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
Drain the swamp! Extra rules!
Lol... holy crap.
What a summary your one post could serve as the epitome of this last year in American conservative politics...
originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
Who cares? Since when did we care what celebrities did?
By the way, the players coming out for it is only 2009 thanks to DoD grants for patriotism(nationalism).
For the record, it's poor taste in protest in my opinion. That being said, they're rich and famous playing a sport I don't care about.
Maybe we should focus on the DoD successfully taking over the NFL for wars no one supports. Or not, whats the difference at this point.
Interesting it started about 8 years ago.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Metallicus
Drain the swamp! Extra rules!
Lol... holy crap.
What a summary your one post could serve as the epitome of this last year in American conservative politics...
While I enjoy your enthusiasm, I am in no way directing this in only one direction.
Both sides have really been getting to me.
Both seem so high and mighty, getting their grubby fingers in the last hold outs of society, privacy, and civility.
I have a strong dislike for all fallacy.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
in what fhucking court of law in this country where you are guilty of perception...
so it doesn't matter what they're doing, what matters is what other people think about it?
what tosser would agree to that system