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About the Vegas Killer... newest info
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
Campos is a fictional entity as are the first on site and they're being used to direct the story along preapproved channels to cover for what really went down in comparison to what was supposed to have happened.
^^^^^ partial quote
Finally somebody got there !!
"Jesus Campos" and the other name of the guard that started the gofundme effort are not employees of Mandalay Bay or any contractors.
Now step 2.
"Verify" the players "Stephen Paddock" and "Marilou Danley".
"Step 3" becomes clear after step 2.
Don't move too fast.
There's plenty of time.
a reply to: MotherMayEye
The passport snapshot and the picture of the 2 men are part of the MSM red herring effort.
The passport snapshot and the picture of the 2 men are part of the MSM red herring effort.
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
Campos is a fictional entity as are the first on site and they're being used to direct the story along preapproved channels to cover for what really went down in comparison to what was supposed to have happened.
^^^^^ partial quote
Finally somebody got there !!
"Jesus Campos" and the other name of the guard that started the gofundme effort are not employees of Mandalay Bay or any contractors.
Now step 2.
"Verify" the players "Stephen Paddock" and "Marilou Danley".
"Step 3" becomes clear after step 2.
Don't move too fast.
There's plenty of time.
I want to find conclusive evidence of this.
Has any witness come forward to say Campos cleared them out of their rooms like the story that was reported?
Also, I read hospital staff (and police) stated they had Campos stay at the hospital longer so they could monitor his wound and police could interview him.
Seems any comments by hospital staff would be a HIPAA violation....unless Campos is fictional, of course.
a reply to: KansasGirl
Credibility.
If 3 or 4 Members do the connecting, there's better credibility.
Credibility.
If 3 or 4 Members do the connecting, there's better credibility.
This thread is really juicing up.
I’ve read most of the posts since yesterday
The idea that Campos isn’t a real person is interesting.
Would they do that knowing someone working regularly at the hotel might expose that?
Maybe, maybe not. They could just say he was a consultant security person, and that’s why he wasn’t known by the regulars.
Here's some more juice
Below are some major questions posted from a conspiracy site
www.veteranstoday.com...
THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
(1) THE SHOOTER
a. Why would an old, retired, drunken, multi-millionaire gambler with no clear political or religious ideology and motive plan and then execute the most expensive, complex, and effective mass shooting attack in US history?
b. So far, four motives have been attributed to the shooter: ISIS affiliation (below), Antifa affiliation (below), gambling losses, and a psychological break, i.e. he “snapped.” This was an expensive, carefully planned, resource intensive, and premeditated event. Is this consistent with a man who simply “snapped”?
–
c. There are reports that the shooter converted to Islam several months prior to the attack. ISIS has officially claimed responsibility for the attack, in spite FBI denials. Did the shooter convert? Was ISIS involved? What is the FBI’s assessment based on?
d. There have been reports that the shooter and his girlfriend, Marilous Danley (surname from a her second marriage), were seen in the Middle East. Were they ever there?
e. There have been reports that the shooter and his girlfriend attended Antifa and anti-Trump events in the United States and possessed Antifa literature. Antifa in Melbourne, Australia initially claimed responsibility for the attack and called the shooter their “brother.” Was the shooter and/or his girlfriend affiliated with Antifa? Was Antifa involved in the attack?
f. Did the shooter commit suicide or was he shot? There are conflicting reports.
– Source: Fat Man.
g. The shooter recently in the week before the shooting wired $100,000 to the Philippines, where his girlfriend has family and now resides. Why?
–
h. There is evidence the shooter used to work at Lockheed Martin and NASA. Was the shooter a government employee of any sort?
–
(2) THE GIRLFRIEND
a. Marilou Danley has variously been reported as in custody, in the Philippines, and in Tokyo. Where is she and what accounts for the conflicting reports? If she is outside the country, when did she leave?
– UPDATE: It now appears to be confirmed that Marilou Danley left the US on Sept 25 and traveled to Manila, Philippines via Hong Kong. She arrived on Oct 1. [
b. Marilou Danley’s husband or ex-husband is (allegedly) 76 year old Geary Danley. His Facebook account is rife with Leftist ideology, dozens upon dozens of “likes” of every Leftist and anti-Trump group imaginable, including ShareBlue and most importantly, Rubicon Training Group, a gun training and gun course company. Geary has knowledge of and a proclivity for guns, as a careful reading of his FB will reveal. Paddock and Geary Danley share one degree of separation. Even though Geary supposedly lives in Arkansas, public records reveal he has a decades-long history of living in the state of Nevada. Was he involved in any capacity?
c. What happened to Marilou Danley’s (alleged) first husband, Alberto Busto, a filipino who she married in 1996, and who are the Ali and Zafar Busto linked on her facebook (her sons?)? Ali and Zafar are Arabic names, and possibly indicate she and/or her husband converted to Islam and her son or sons are Muslims, probably living in the Philippines. Did Paddock visit her son or sons with Marilou? Did they see Paddock as a target for radicalization because of his reported isolation from family and any friends, maybe some resentment at something they saw they could work on?
d. Marilou left the US on Sept 25 and arrived in Manila, the Philippines, on Oct 1. Paddock rented the Vista suite on Sept 28. Sometime between Sept 24 and Oct 1, he wired $100k to Marilou’s bank in Manila. Was Marilou aware of the impending attack?
(3) THE EQUIPMENT
a. The shooter used at least two fully automatic rifles (modded). He had no military or militia background. How did he get them and if he modded them himself, how did he do it?]
b. The shooter had 19-23 guns in the room and another 20 or so at home. He had 10 bags sent to his room containing thousands of rounds of ammunition. The automatic rifles were set up on “racks” or “platforms.” He had surveillance equipment set up outside his room to watch for the police, and as-yet unidentified electronic devices a camera set up in his room to record the shooting. He had parts to make explosives, including ammonium nitrate (used by McVeigh), and possibly also bombs. His house was apparently a prepper’s paradise. How and why did he acquire all this equipment?
c. How did he get ammonium nitrate, the same chemical McVeigh used in OKL?
(4) THE ATTACK
a. The official story is that the attack was launched from a “Vista Suite” on the northeast corner of the Mandalay Bay Hotel’s northernmost “wing.” Two windows were broken with a hammer in the 32nd floor, two-bedroom suite. Automatic scoped rifles were then set up on racks or platforms in each of these windows, and the shooter alternated between these rifles for 17 9 minutes of total fire time in a roughly 70 minute period. Why would the shooter alternate between two rooms? Were there multiple shooters?
b. There were in excess of 600 casualties total. At the range the shooter was at (400-600 yards), this might seem excessive, particularly in 17 minutes of firing. Could his automatic rifle do that damage at that range in that time? How could he hit so many people at that range without any weapons experience?
c. He booked two rooms under his girlfriend’s name. Why? Where was the second room, if there was one?
d. There is footage of muzzle flare from the ~4th floor. Was the shooting coming from the 32nd or the 4th, or both?
e. Why did it take police officers 72 minutes to locate him after the first 911 call came through? Did police know after only 5 minutes where the shots were coming from?]
f. Some sources claim the exits to the festival venue were blocked. Were the exits blocked, and if so why?]
g. What happened to the security officer who was reported as shot in the leg on the police scanner?
(5) OTHER QUESTIONS
a. Some have questioned the sincerity of the shooter’s brother’s emotions in this interview. Is there something suspicious about his behavior?
–
b. A “Hispanic” lady was seen at the festival ~45 minutes before the event saying people would die. The shooter’s Asian girlfriend looked somewhat Hispanic. Was it her, or an as-yet unidentified woman?– The Hispanic lady was about a foot taller than his girlfriend, suggesting it wasn’t her 45 minutes before the attack.
c. Is it coincidence that there’s a DHS training event in Vegas?
d. Did the shooter go through the new metal detectors at the Mandalay Hotel?
e. Did housekeeping check his room while he was there? What did they find?
–]
I’ve read most of the posts since yesterday
The idea that Campos isn’t a real person is interesting.
Would they do that knowing someone working regularly at the hotel might expose that?
Maybe, maybe not. They could just say he was a consultant security person, and that’s why he wasn’t known by the regulars.
Here's some more juice
Below are some major questions posted from a conspiracy site
www.veteranstoday.com...
This was posted on Godlike Productions by a blogger who calls himself “the Original Mind.” -MCM
THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
(1) THE SHOOTER
a. Why would an old, retired, drunken, multi-millionaire gambler with no clear political or religious ideology and motive plan and then execute the most expensive, complex, and effective mass shooting attack in US history?
b. So far, four motives have been attributed to the shooter: ISIS affiliation (below), Antifa affiliation (below), gambling losses, and a psychological break, i.e. he “snapped.” This was an expensive, carefully planned, resource intensive, and premeditated event. Is this consistent with a man who simply “snapped”?
–
c. There are reports that the shooter converted to Islam several months prior to the attack. ISIS has officially claimed responsibility for the attack, in spite FBI denials. Did the shooter convert? Was ISIS involved? What is the FBI’s assessment based on?
d. There have been reports that the shooter and his girlfriend, Marilous Danley (surname from a her second marriage), were seen in the Middle East. Were they ever there?
e. There have been reports that the shooter and his girlfriend attended Antifa and anti-Trump events in the United States and possessed Antifa literature. Antifa in Melbourne, Australia initially claimed responsibility for the attack and called the shooter their “brother.” Was the shooter and/or his girlfriend affiliated with Antifa? Was Antifa involved in the attack?
f. Did the shooter commit suicide or was he shot? There are conflicting reports.
– Source: Fat Man.
g. The shooter recently in the week before the shooting wired $100,000 to the Philippines, where his girlfriend has family and now resides. Why?
–
h. There is evidence the shooter used to work at Lockheed Martin and NASA. Was the shooter a government employee of any sort?
–
(2) THE GIRLFRIEND
a. Marilou Danley has variously been reported as in custody, in the Philippines, and in Tokyo. Where is she and what accounts for the conflicting reports? If she is outside the country, when did she leave?
– UPDATE: It now appears to be confirmed that Marilou Danley left the US on Sept 25 and traveled to Manila, Philippines via Hong Kong. She arrived on Oct 1. [
b. Marilou Danley’s husband or ex-husband is (allegedly) 76 year old Geary Danley. His Facebook account is rife with Leftist ideology, dozens upon dozens of “likes” of every Leftist and anti-Trump group imaginable, including ShareBlue and most importantly, Rubicon Training Group, a gun training and gun course company. Geary has knowledge of and a proclivity for guns, as a careful reading of his FB will reveal. Paddock and Geary Danley share one degree of separation. Even though Geary supposedly lives in Arkansas, public records reveal he has a decades-long history of living in the state of Nevada. Was he involved in any capacity?
c. What happened to Marilou Danley’s (alleged) first husband, Alberto Busto, a filipino who she married in 1996, and who are the Ali and Zafar Busto linked on her facebook (her sons?)? Ali and Zafar are Arabic names, and possibly indicate she and/or her husband converted to Islam and her son or sons are Muslims, probably living in the Philippines. Did Paddock visit her son or sons with Marilou? Did they see Paddock as a target for radicalization because of his reported isolation from family and any friends, maybe some resentment at something they saw they could work on?
d. Marilou left the US on Sept 25 and arrived in Manila, the Philippines, on Oct 1. Paddock rented the Vista suite on Sept 28. Sometime between Sept 24 and Oct 1, he wired $100k to Marilou’s bank in Manila. Was Marilou aware of the impending attack?
(3) THE EQUIPMENT
a. The shooter used at least two fully automatic rifles (modded). He had no military or militia background. How did he get them and if he modded them himself, how did he do it?]
b. The shooter had 19-23 guns in the room and another 20 or so at home. He had 10 bags sent to his room containing thousands of rounds of ammunition. The automatic rifles were set up on “racks” or “platforms.” He had surveillance equipment set up outside his room to watch for the police, and as-yet unidentified electronic devices a camera set up in his room to record the shooting. He had parts to make explosives, including ammonium nitrate (used by McVeigh), and possibly also bombs. His house was apparently a prepper’s paradise. How and why did he acquire all this equipment?
c. How did he get ammonium nitrate, the same chemical McVeigh used in OKL?
(4) THE ATTACK
a. The official story is that the attack was launched from a “Vista Suite” on the northeast corner of the Mandalay Bay Hotel’s northernmost “wing.” Two windows were broken with a hammer in the 32nd floor, two-bedroom suite. Automatic scoped rifles were then set up on racks or platforms in each of these windows, and the shooter alternated between these rifles for 17 9 minutes of total fire time in a roughly 70 minute period. Why would the shooter alternate between two rooms? Were there multiple shooters?
b. There were in excess of 600 casualties total. At the range the shooter was at (400-600 yards), this might seem excessive, particularly in 17 minutes of firing. Could his automatic rifle do that damage at that range in that time? How could he hit so many people at that range without any weapons experience?
c. He booked two rooms under his girlfriend’s name. Why? Where was the second room, if there was one?
d. There is footage of muzzle flare from the ~4th floor. Was the shooting coming from the 32nd or the 4th, or both?
e. Why did it take police officers 72 minutes to locate him after the first 911 call came through? Did police know after only 5 minutes where the shots were coming from?]
f. Some sources claim the exits to the festival venue were blocked. Were the exits blocked, and if so why?]
g. What happened to the security officer who was reported as shot in the leg on the police scanner?
(5) OTHER QUESTIONS
a. Some have questioned the sincerity of the shooter’s brother’s emotions in this interview. Is there something suspicious about his behavior?
–
b. A “Hispanic” lady was seen at the festival ~45 minutes before the event saying people would die. The shooter’s Asian girlfriend looked somewhat Hispanic. Was it her, or an as-yet unidentified woman?– The Hispanic lady was about a foot taller than his girlfriend, suggesting it wasn’t her 45 minutes before the attack.
c. Is it coincidence that there’s a DHS training event in Vegas?
d. Did the shooter go through the new metal detectors at the Mandalay Hotel?
e. Did housekeeping check his room while he was there? What did they find?
–]
a reply to: MotherMayEye
There was no security guard on the 32nd floor at the time of the incident.
All "proof" is coming from MSM reports, and they are not proving anything.
Now let's figure out who (if anybody) was in the room in question at the time in question.
Hint: go back to finding out who "Stephen Paddock" really is.
There was no security guard on the 32nd floor at the time of the incident.
All "proof" is coming from MSM reports, and they are not proving anything.
Now let's figure out who (if anybody) was in the room in question at the time in question.
Hint: go back to finding out who "Stephen Paddock" really is.
edit on Oct-08-2017 by xuenchen because: corrected
It has emerged that the nice clean cut shaven picture of "Jesus Campos" is actually that of a Venezualian Politician who has complained that his
picture had been stolen for a Gofundme account, a Gofundme account that was set up by an alleged co-worker Lillian Rodriguez ....you'd think with
working with him she'd know what he looks like Even with all the hoohah over his "bravery" there are no photographs on any articles that I can
find. One has emerged today with him holding a sign saying thank you everyone....hmm not suspicious at all that, nope, doesn't look scripted at all.
Campos is allegedly a 25yr old but yet has no online footprint not even a facebook page apparently, quite unusual for someone in that age group
Jesus Campos New Pic
Ahh sorry by the time I'd posted this someone elsehas already posted the pic
I will just add that I have just been reading some text messages posted elsewhere that says Paddock had been dead 2 weeks and was kept on ice for this event. That he was an ex CIA operative. That this event was carried out by some group or someone called PEGASUS (which means nothing to me) which is all probably garbage but hey ho who knows?
Campos is allegedly a 25yr old but yet has no online footprint not even a facebook page apparently, quite unusual for someone in that age group
Jesus Campos New Pic
Ahh sorry by the time I'd posted this someone elsehas already posted the pic
I will just add that I have just been reading some text messages posted elsewhere that says Paddock had been dead 2 weeks and was kept on ice for this event. That he was an ex CIA operative. That this event was carried out by some group or someone called PEGASUS (which means nothing to me) which is all probably garbage but hey ho who knows?
edit on 8-10-2017 by PhyllidaDavenport because: (no reason given)
edit on 8-10-2017 by PhyllidaDavenport because: (no reason
given)
Way too much DRAMA here for me today!!
It's like a game of CLUE, or a treasure hunt for kindergartners.
Dude, if you really knew something for certain you'd be in questioning by the feds, or they'd be chasing you around your basement trying to kill you! You wouldn't be here on ATS!
You're just playing a game with people trying to lead them, one bread crumb at a time, to YOUR theory about what happened.
Give the cryptic stuff a rest, would ya? This is just silly.
Dump some facts and quit with the sinister innuendo! If you know something, say what it is. If you don't, fine, say that too, but quit playing games.
P.S. I normally read your stuff, but today the content is just irritating like a flat tire when you're late for work.
C'mon, man!
It's like a game of CLUE, or a treasure hunt for kindergartners.
Dude, if you really knew something for certain you'd be in questioning by the feds, or they'd be chasing you around your basement trying to kill you! You wouldn't be here on ATS!
You're just playing a game with people trying to lead them, one bread crumb at a time, to YOUR theory about what happened.
Give the cryptic stuff a rest, would ya? This is just silly.
Dump some facts and quit with the sinister innuendo! If you know something, say what it is. If you don't, fine, say that too, but quit playing games.
P.S. I normally read your stuff, but today the content is just irritating like a flat tire when you're late for work.
C'mon, man!
originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
Campos is a fictional entity as are the first on site and they're being used to direct the story along preapproved channels to cover for what really went down in comparison to what was supposed to have happened.
Let's work backwards from this..what happened (or went wrong) that caused the Campos story to have to be invented?
***
ETA: Whether Campos is real or not...the story about him reeks and is strained and ever-evolving. Something caused it to have to 'happen.'
edit on 10/8/2017 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Yes, old articles are being archived.
I did find an old reference to a Kent Bitsko as a member of the Vegas PD K9 team... perhaps related to Joshua?
NARCO DOGS ARE USED TO FRAME PEOPLE AND TO PLANT DRUGS ?
Everything I find about Joshua Bitsko has been scrubbed... even archived and cached.
Yes, old articles are being archived.
I did find an old reference to a Kent Bitsko as a member of the Vegas PD K9 team... perhaps related to Joshua?
NARCO DOGS ARE USED TO FRAME PEOPLE AND TO PLANT DRUGS ?
Lt. Kent Bitsko, who oversees the canine unit, said the Lilly incident was a mistake and that better controls are in place as a result, but that similar problems still could arise in the future. Nobody is perfect, he said. "Our controls are better now than they have ever been, and four years from now they will be even better," Bitsko said. "The shame of it is that it takes something bad to happen to bring it to our attention."
Everything I find about Joshua Bitsko has been scrubbed... even archived and cached.
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Bitko
www.reviewjournal.com...
Bitko
Metro awards 42 officers at annual Best of the Badge gala
www.reviewjournal.com...
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
That's why I'm encouraging Members here to connect the dots.
I'm being extra careful.
You have no idea how careful.
That's why I'm encouraging Members here to connect the dots.
I'm being extra careful.
You have no idea how careful.
a reply to: Boadicea
Look through here....
www.google.com...[google:bookmarkBarPinned]sourceid=chrome&[googlemniboxStartMarginP arameter]ie=UTF-8
Look through here....
www.google.com...[google:bookmarkBarPinned]sourceid=chrome&[googlemniboxStartMarginP arameter]ie=UTF-8
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Bitko
Metro awards 42 officers at annual Best of the Badge gala
www.reviewjournal.com...
Thanks!
It's recent, but still it's some corroboration!
Interesting... Checking out David L. Hickey, the president of the Security Police Fire Professionals of America union, and the one who "officially"
identified the security guard as Jesus Campos:
Feds Investigate Security Union Leader
I'm not finding anything about the disposition of this investigation yet...
Feds Investigate Security Union Leader
Federal agents have raided the home of a Michigan-based labor boss amid allegations that he may have stolen money from union members who guard nuclear power facilities and a NASA space center, according to the Detroit News.
The newspaper reported Friday that David Hickey, international president of the Security, Police, and Fire Professionals of America, is apparently the target of a racketeering and fraud investigation being carried out by the Labor Department.
I'm not finding anything about the disposition of this investigation yet...
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