Footage of Vegas Attacker Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump Protest

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: audubon
The guy in the "pink hat" photo does appear to be wearing a shirt with "NASA" written on it. NASA listed a Steve Paddock among employees in 1993.

But the Steve Paddock in Vegas is only said to have worked for Lockheed Martin. So I wonder if this is all a coincidence. Stranger things have happened.

Already been posted and debunked.

PS - they have different middle names, and using grainy photos in a nation of 310+ million people to draw comparisons... yeah.

Already been posted, anyway.

I have seen it posted but I have not seen it "debunked" yet. Can you please show me where it was debunked because I am curious.

Start around page 70ish in the Mandalay Bay thread.

It's already been posted - and debunked. I'm not continually re-hashing already discussed content.

It's a different guy. Crazy, I know, but there is more than one Stephen Paddock in the world.

The claim was that this is Stephen Paddock, who worked at NASA. Dude never worked at NASA. He's not wearing a NASA t-shirt. The man in the picture has a different middle name than the Vegas shooter.

"Deny ignorance," lol

Wow bro I asked as politely as I could. You really are an ass lol.

originally posted by: notsure1
You would think someone on one of these boards would have access to facial recognition software and would be able to compare the 2 images.

When I used this app, it doesn't look like a match at all.


Compare Result
Is same person: Probability low.

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a reply to: RomeByFire

ya, and it seems that some just have to find the evidence that it was the other side that in the lack of any evidence whatsoever...
they will just make it up!!!

anyone ever wonder if maybe, just maybe all this fake evidence that they are passing on just might be interfering with the very real investigation that is going on? I mean are any of these fake stories hitting their desks so they have to go out and spend time finding if they are true or not??

oh, that's right, we can't trust the government, we can't trust the investigators, we can only trust our facebook and twitter accounts..

originally posted by: Christosterone

originally posted by: Grambler
Couple of things.

1. I do not find this pic conclusive that it's him.

2. Believe it or not, a person can get and wear a shirt that says NASA without having to work there.

3. Even if this is him, this in no way proves motive.

I am sure Ted Bundy had political opinions; that doesn't mean they were the reasoning for his killings.

Lastly, although I fully support is sleuthing to get as much info as possible, I caution people not to rush to judgement.

It can lead to dangerous misconceptions and hurt innocent people.

Tee bundy was a sexual deviant, sociopath and sexual sadist...
He had a long criminal history and was a known offender...

Paddocks only ripple was this picture...other than it, he was a ghost of sorts..
Well, a ghost to all but casinos who seemed to know him well...
So with no more information than I have now, the guess is based upon only this picture knowing his long-term girlfriend was a leftist political activist...

-Chris

But you are making a huge leap in logic.

Lets assume that this is him in that pic (which I have my doubts)

Just because that him being at an anti trump rally is one of the only things he we know about him does not make this the reason he killed all of those people.

I wonder if you would have the same standard of he was attending a pro trump rally.

For example, if that man in pink doesn't trim out to be paddock, and the supposed reports from his neighbor are true that he was a trump supporter,

seeing as how that will be one of the only things we know about him, will you say his support for trump was his reasoning for the shooting?

Of course that would be premature, and I feel so is blaming him as an anti trump person.

Now who knows, perhaps more info will come to light making it clear this was politically motivated.

But the idea he was possibly at an anti trump rally isn't enough for me.

a reply to: muzzleflash

well, gee, in that case, I am a perfectly sane person, I would like one missle launcher and a fully functional tank please!!

oh, wait... I can't have those???

a reply to: Abysha

That is cool ty. I thought before you posted this that there is probably an app for that lol and you post one.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Excellent point!

Tens of millions of Americans own guns. Honestly, I can't think of a single adult among the people I know well that doesn't own at least one gun, women included.

We get up and go about our day every day, year after year, and never even think about committing an atrocity.

If you were ever committed to a mental institution, you probably should not be able to own a gun. Otherwise, this type of event is unpreventable without destroying us as a freedom-loving nation.

a reply to: RomeByFire

One major structural issue I see is that one political group is essentially being allowed to preach mass murder and justify it politically (killing Nazis is not only acceptable its a duty they say).

That's what we really need to be discussing no matter what this guy's motive was.

I understand that this topic is being avoided because a lot of people want a violent revolution but need to avoid facing moral repercussions right now because they are still in the recruitment and indoctrination phase, but this is the right time to show people the reality and immoral nature of murder to prevent impressionable people from being sucked into political radicalism.

So let's look at how the MSM foments that radicalism and division, and how they fail to report the truth about this political radicalization and cover up it's outspoken motives.

As far as I can tell the primary structural problems are the unbelievable political bias of the MSM and the desire to create a militarized police state as the establishment's endgame goal.

a reply to: queenofswords
how many own automatics, or modified semi-automatics??
both of which are illegal, but it seems that the kits to turn semis into automatics might not be?

These aren't for hunting, and they aren't for self protection.
they are for war!!!

a reply to: muzzleflash

then we need to discuss the violent groups on both sides...
or do I need to remind you that most of the injuries in charlottesville were done by white separatists and kkk members who came with shield, guns, and tiki torches?

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: RomeByFire

One major structural issue I see is that one political group is essentially being allowed to preach mass murder and justify it politically (killing Nazis is not only acceptable its a duty they say).

That's what we really need to be discussing no matter what this guy's motive was.

I understand that this topic is being avoided because a lot of people want a violent revolution but need to avoid facing moral repercussions right now because they are still in the recruitment and indoctrination phase, but this is the right time to show people the reality and immoral nature of murder to prevent impressionable people from being sucked into political radicalism.

So let's look at how the MSM foments that radicalism and division, and how they fail to report the truth about this political radicalization and cover up it's outspoken motives.

As far as I can tell the primary structural problems are the unbelievable political bias of the MSM and the desire to create a militarized police state as the establishment's endgame goal.

I don't watch TV.

I don't care about the "mainstream media agenda." It's really easy to not purchase cable and not watch it.

The MSM arent the only ones pushing division.

Link

On 4chan, the anonymous message board and a favorite platform of the “alt-right”, some noted that Danley was a registered Democrat. Soon after, Gateway Pundit, a conspiracy-laden blog that earned White House credentials under Trump, published an evidence-free story headlined, “Las Vegas Shooter Reportedly a Democrat Who Liked Rachel Maddow, MoveOn.org and Associated with Anti-Trump Army”. The piece was based on a review of Facebook “likes”.

ended up briefly promoting a story that said the shooter had “Trump-hating” views, along with links to a number of other hoaxes and scams, according to screenshots. At the same time, Google users who searched Geary Danley’s name were at one point directed to the 4chan thread filled with false claims.

“It’s getting more polarized. There’s this mad scramble to paint the guy as a Democrat or a Republican, so they can cheer,”

Yup.

ATS pushes agendas/theories about Illuminati blood sacrifices. But yeah, only the MSM pushes division and a narrative.

Funny, I don't see many posts regarding InfoWars pushing this as an "AntiFa," thing considering we're discussing narratives and pushing agendas.

(We ALL know how trustworthy anon sources are... except for when InfoWars uses them).

a reply to: notsure1

The police should just interview him since he is the only one that knows the truth.

I'm curious if he has a ladder to get on that high horse?

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: muzzleflash

well, gee, in that case, I am a perfectly sane person, I would like one missle launcher and a fully functional tank please!!

oh, wait... I can't have those???

Our laws are really quirky and vary among states, but in theory you can get law enforcement to sign all the necessary permits to possess many types of weapons. Especially if you build those weapons.

Ask yourself, how does a civilian that incorporates a company build jets and bombs and then sell them? Clearly there's a way to legally own and possess grenade launchers, tanks, flame throwers, etc.

It just takes a lot of paperwork and creative thinking, but you can get your hands on just about anything.

a reply to: dawnstar

Buy one of those kits, then call the ATF, tell them you have it, and see what happens.

You'll find out quick just how legal that is.

a reply to: dawnstar

These aren't for hunting, and they aren't for self protection.
they are for war!!!

Blunt fact for you, dawnstar: The Second Amendment does not limit the reason for keeping and bearing arms to hunting and self protection. That is not WHY we have the 2A as a right.

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: audubon
The guy in the "pink hat" photo does appear to be wearing a shirt with "NASA" written on it. NASA listed a Steve Paddock among employees in 1993.

But the Steve Paddock in Vegas is only said to have worked for Lockheed Martin. So I wonder if this is all a coincidence. Stranger things have happened.

Already been posted and debunked.

PS - they have different middle names, and using grainy photos in a nation of 310+ million people to draw comparisons... yeah.

Already been posted, anyway.

I have seen it posted but I have not seen it "debunked" yet. Can you please show me where it was debunked because I am curious.

Start around page 70ish in the Mandalay Bay thread.

It's already been posted - and debunked. I'm not continually re-hashing already discussed content.

It's a different guy. Crazy, I know, but there is more than one Stephen Paddock in the world.

The claim was that this is Stephen Paddock, who worked at NASA. Dude never worked at NASA. He's not wearing a NASA t-shirt. The man in the picture has a different middle name than the Vegas shooter.

"Deny ignorance," lol

Wow bro I asked as politely as I could. You really are an ass lol.

Something about the thing that falls from the sky during the winter season.

You asked, I provided.

Even after the discrediting of the Geary Danley story early in the day, the amateur sleuths of 4chan continued to seize on pieces of internet ephemera that appeared to tie Paddock to left-wing causes–after discovering a 1993 NASA document listing a “Steve Paddock” as an employee, commenters linked it to a photo of a man resembling Paddock wearing a pink “pussy-hat” and NASA T-shirt.

(It's a WASA T-shirt)

This "Steve Paddock," is not the "Stephen Paddock," that committed this atrocity. They have different middle names.

As I said - this has already been presented. They have different middle names, too.

But if you want some fuzzy picture of two people who share a similar first name and look similar to be some sort of smoking gun - be my guest.

originally posted by: dawnstar

how many own automatics, or modified semi-automatics??
both of which are illegal...

The former are not illegal, just highly controlled on the pre-1986 units available, the later is highly illegal.

a reply to: muzzleflash

well, what good is a tank unless I can drive it down the road???

a reply to: RomeByFire

So he is wearing a shirt advertising bread?

It says NASA.

a reply to: RomeByFire

Whether you or I watch TV is irrelevant to IF that TV promotes or facilitates violent political views.

Also, it detracts from the point of IF Antifa promotes violent activism to say Alex Jones is full of crap.

Does Alex Jones preach mass murder? No.
Does Antifa? Yes.
Does it matter if AJ gets his facts straight about Antifa? Not really, because Antifa can be violent all day no matter how accurate or inaccurate AJ is.