Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

I still think this guy is a patsy. I'll wait for the casino security camera videos. Even though this might be high profile and everything we see is fake.

This guy was a millionaire, and ex-defense contractor. A shady combo.

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Konduit
I counted five separate AR 15's in just the three crime scene photos that have been leaked. This is seeming more and more like a blatant false flag for gun control.

It's exactly why there's about zero implementation of any sort of gun control. I remember the "they're coming for our guns," quite well.

Take a look at gun crimes in cities with the strictest gun control laws in the country. Chicago had 11 people killed and 32 wounded by gun violence just last weekend.

Why isn't gun control working in these cities? Why are they much worse than open carry states? It doesn't make sense! Right?

Where it says as press conference that he obviously knows more info than he is releasing, saying when he says we don't know they may actually know.

He then says that he expects to know more about motive in 48 hours.

Says girlfriend is person of interest.

Won't verify if pics circulating are legit, but then says that they are having an internal investigation as to how the pics were released.

Says cameras were setup to see law enforcent coming in room.

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Konduit
I counted five separate AR 15's in just the three crime scene photos that have been leaked. This is seeming more and more like a blatant false flag for gun control.

And that's exactly why gun manufacturers make a killing (figuratively and literally) each and every time after a mass shooting. It's exactly why they continually lobby and form special interest groups and super PAC's to bribe Congressmen and woman.

It's exactly why there's about zero implementation of any sort of gun control. I remember the "they're coming for our guns," quite well.

It's just weird that gun manufacturers make profit after mass shootings. Kind of seems counter-productive to gun control.

"They're coming for our guns" isn't complete BS. There's examples of people calling for outright bans.

Yet no one has come for guns.

In fact, legislation has been removed regarding gun ownership. Link.

Gun manufacturers thrive. The revolving door of lobbying continues.

Innocent Americans continue to be killed. Face it, though, an elementary school wasn't enough - nothing will be.

That's fine, I plan on leaving the country in my near future.

They are all small steps. Taking the guns away can’t happen over night.

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Konduit
I counted five separate AR 15's in just the three crime scene photos that have been leaked. This is seeming more and more like a blatant false flag for gun control.

And that's exactly why gun manufacturers make a killing (figuratively and literally) each and every time after a mass shooting. It's exactly why they continually lobby and form special interest groups and super PAC's to bribe Congressmen and woman.

It's exactly why there's about zero implementation of any sort of gun control. I remember the "they're coming for our guns," quite well.

It's just weird that gun manufacturers make profit after mass shootings. Kind of seems counter-productive to gun control.

"They're coming for our guns" isn't complete BS. There's examples of people calling for outright bans.

Yet no one has come for guns.

In fact, legislation has been removed regarding gun ownership. Link.

Gun manufacturers thrive. The revolving door of lobbying continues.

Innocent Americans continue to be killed. Face it, though, an elementary school wasn't enough - nothing will be.

That's fine, I plan on leaving the country in my near future.

You're forgetting there's cities right now where it's just about impossible to get a permit to own a gun. It just depends on who is in office to pass the laws. All it would take is the right combination of President and Congress.

The reason I am not worried about 100% gun control, is because the military industrial complex runs the world (along with the intelligence community). They will not want to eat into their profits.

Sheriff says he will release info about rather or not this specific concert was targeted at later date.

The way he said it makes me think they already have a good idea of what the motive was.

originally posted by: Grambler
Where it says as press conference that he obviously knows more info than he is releasing, saying when he says we don't know they may actually know.

He then says that he expects to know more about motive in 48 hours.

Says girlfriend is person of interest.

Won't verify if pics circulating are legit, but then says that they are having an internal investigation as to how the pics were released.

Says cameras were setup to see law enforcent coming in room.

My guess is Boston news outlet got it first and somebody there released the more graphic ones via 4chan

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Konduit
I counted five separate AR 15's in just the three crime scene photos that have been leaked. This is seeming more and more like a blatant false flag for gun control.

And that's exactly why gun manufacturers make a killing (figuratively and literally) each and every time after a mass shooting. It's exactly why they continually lobby and form special interest groups and super PAC's to bribe Congressmen and woman.

It's exactly why there's about zero implementation of any sort of gun control. I remember the "they're coming for our guns," quite well.

It's just weird that gun manufacturers make profit after mass shootings. Kind of seems counter-productive to gun control.

"They're coming for our guns" isn't complete BS. There's examples of people calling for outright bans.

Yet no one has come for guns.

In fact, legislation has been removed regarding gun ownership. Link.

Gun manufacturers thrive. The revolving door of lobbying continues.

Innocent Americans continue to be killed. Face it, though, an elementary school wasn't enough - nothing will be.

That's fine, I plan on leaving the country in my near future.

They are all small steps. Taking the guns away can’t happen over night.

Those who roll their eyes at this post need look no further than California to see what a "common sense compromise" here and there can do over a few decades.

If the FBI has not got a motive yet I am suspicious. The man did not just snap I see a note on the table. Lemme guess he is a radical liberal makes the most sense to me... look at the setting and the prey he choose.. it was personal and well thought out.. why was it a country music concert? why not a hip hop concert, or a jazz concert etc.. they attack country loving American trump supporters.. just speculating.. we should have a motive by now...

a reply to: anonfamily

He worked for a Lockheed Martin predecessor for a few years as an accountant in the 80s. I would hardly call that an ex-defense contractor.

a reply to: EchoesInTime



Looks like the top photo is an AR-15, in 7.62 x 39 caliber, with a bump fire stock (Slide Fire), 40 round magazine, EOTech 552 holographic sight and a couple of empty 7.62x39 shell casings lying on the floor.


Since the soonest gun show in Las Vegas is Oct 7-8th, 2017 (Eastside Cannary Gun Show), hotel management might have not been surprised with the arsenal that Paddock had --- That is...if the hotel maids discovered them.

originally posted by: anonfamily
The reason I am not worried about 100% gun control, is because the military industrial complex runs the world (along with the intelligence community). They will not want to eat into their profits.

This is your favorite book isn't it?

a reply to: antibren

Ok i have a way to figure out what kind of gun actually fired the constant fire rate.

OK the mg-249 fires Sustained rate is 100 rounds per minute
Rapid rate is 200 rounds per minute
Cyclic rate is 650 to 850 rounds per minute

OK the ROunds fires in 30 seconde were 280. so...My MG-249 is out. WHy? because the belts are only 200 rounds each. UNLESS he was directly drawing from modified belts.(unlikely it seems now)

the M-16... 12–15 rounds/min sustained
45–60 rounds/min
700–950 rounds/min cyclic

So that one is plausible with the extended mags.

But WHat gun firinf 5.56 can fire 280 rounds in 30 seconds continously.

AH I forgot that if you include a second shooter we can get the 280 rounds in 30 seconds continously easily.

originally posted by: Erno86
a reply to: EchoesInTime



Looks like the top photo is an AR-15, in 7.62 x 39 caliber, with a bump fire stock and a 40 round magazine.


Since the soonest gun show in Las Vegas is Oct 7-8th, 2017 (Eastside Cannary Gun Show), hotel management might have not been surprised with the arsenal that Paddock had --- That is...if the hotel maids discovered them.

This has been covered like 40 times. The hotel staff had no idea, he brought the guns up in suitcases and kept them out of sight until the day of the shooting.

Is there a some kind of death note and pencil right on the table? What could it be?

originally posted by: Bicent
If the FBI has not got a motive yet I am suspicious. The man did not just snap I see a note on the table. Lemme guess he is a radical liberal makes the most sense to me... look at the setting and the prey he choose.. it was personal and well thought out.. why was it a country music concert? why not a hip hop concert, or a jazz concert etc.. they attack country loving American trump supporters.. just speculating.. we should have a motive by now...

The attack was setup to be antifa.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Konduit
I counted five separate AR 15's in just the three crime scene photos that have been leaked. This is seeming more and more like a blatant false flag for gun control.

And that's exactly why gun manufacturers make a killing (figuratively and literally) each and every time after a mass shooting. It's exactly why they continually lobby and form special interest groups and super PAC's to bribe Congressmen and woman.

It's exactly why there's about zero implementation of any sort of gun control. I remember the "they're coming for our guns," quite well.

It's just weird that gun manufacturers make profit after mass shootings. Kind of seems counter-productive to gun control.

"They're coming for our guns" isn't complete BS. There's examples of people calling for outright bans.

We hear those words after every mass shooting. And then before you know it something more important comes along and everybody moves on to the next shiny object of the moment.

a reply to: Bicent

it was personal and well thought out.. why was it a country music why hip hop concert, or a jazz concert etc..

He knew Vegas and that just happened to be the first outdoor concert planned after he snapped?

If anything his extensive modified weapon collection and seeming (at least) paramilitary training points to a far Right militia guy.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: antibren

Ok i have a way to figure out what kind of gun actually fired the constant fire rate.

OK the mg-249 fires Sustained rate is 100 rounds per minute
Rapid rate is 200 rounds per minute
Cyclic rate is 650 to 850 rounds per minute

OK the ROunds fires in 30 seconde were 280. so...My MG-249 is out. WHy? because the belts are only 200 rounds each. UNLESS he was directly drawing from modified belts.(unlikely it seems now)

the M-16... 12–15 rounds/min sustained
45–60 rounds/min
700–950 rounds/min cyclic

So that one is plausible with the extended mags.

But WHat gun firinf 5.56 can fire 280 rounds in 30 seconds continously.

My personal opinion would be rpk-74 or rpk-16