Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

originally posted by: amazing
The problem with multiple shooters in Mandalay bay is that the Windows were not broken the next morning come daylight. Only the two in that guys room. You can't fix a window that quickly.

What about shooters from elsewhere? Why could that have been the only location?

I'm sorry if my last comment is "off topic", I will remember that staying confused about the topic itself, is the topic of this thread! Not calling out this world who might really have the blood on their hands out of this tragedy! I love it! Deny ignorance! At least I tried to bring into light, something that may have called itself out!

Btw it is interesting to think about the 6th or 7th level muzzle flash in perfect timing with the sound. And if the 32nd floor is being reported, is it technically the 31st? Because most towers exclude a 13th floor out of superstition? Or am I drifting off topic again?

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: amazing
The problem with multiple shooters in Mandalay bay is that the Windows were not broken the next morning come daylight. Only the two in that guys room. You can't fix a window that quickly.

What about shooters from elsewhere? Why could that have been the only location?

That's possible. but I keep people talking about multiple rooms of that hotel. We know that's not possible.

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: face23785

Fake news is usually the media putting their own spin on interpreting known facts incorrectly, sometimes on accident sometimes on purpose to suit their agenda.

You forgot to mention that the media often prints what the tptb tell them what the official story is and that's "fake news"

Here's a thought...Question authority!!

Question Authority..100% approve of that but questioning authority doesnt mean blindly believe any source so it fits the narrative of a CT.

Amazing...this coming from a guy that parrots "fake news" when it doesn't fit his political narrative...

piece of work...

I absolutely hate this!

If the guy had tossed hand grenades into the crowd the chant would be "stop the violence".
If the guy had driven a truck through the crowd the chant would be "stop the violence".
If the guy planted a bomb at the concert the chant would be "stop the violence".
But he used guns. So the chant of course is "ban the guns".

Half the people in this country are willing to sacrifice "the other guys" freedom for the promise of safety. The anti-gun lobby does not see it as a loss of freedom because they aren't losing anything. I am sick of the "you don't need..." argument. What if the right decided one day that the left doesn't need safe spaces, crying rooms, therapy dogs, or free speech if it means desecrating the flag? You don't NEED to desecrate the flag to make a statement... So lets just take that right away from you.

No one is arguing for the right to kill people. That is about as stupid an argument as I have ever heard. If you coddle people and ensure them they have the right to be a$$holes - a$$holes is what you will get. This guy was just a different kind of a$$hole than most people expected. I say stop coddling people and telling them its ok to be a$$holes. Maybe that will make a difference....

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: face23785

Fake news is usually the media putting their own spin on interpreting known facts incorrectly, sometimes on accident sometimes on purpose to suit their agenda.

You forgot to mention that the media often prints what the tptb tell them what the official story is and that's "fake news"

Here's a thought...Question authority!!

Question Authority..100% approve of that but questioning authority doesnt mean blindly believe any source so it fits the narrative of a CT.

Amazing...this coming from a guy that parrots "fake news" when it doesn't fit his narrative...

piece of work...

I have 0 narrative.

Im a skeptic on everything being a conspiracy, in general im a skeptic requiring tangible proof to make me believe in something.I have no political affiliation , no stance on guns other than I make the personal choice not to use them and find life to be an enjoyable ride so I am not sure where you get I parrot anything.

YOu want to believe that a strobe light in a room with no glass broken is proof that their were multiple shooters, have at it..No skin off my back either way..

a reply to: coop039

Is there a 3D layout to back that up?

a reply to: UKTruth

The only other casinos that have a view of the venue are the Luxor and the Tropicana. No broken windows there either.

Theres pics on facebook going around of the inside of the room and some of the weapons. Also a pic of the shooter dead on the floor. In the pic there is no number 13 tattoo on his neck like in the other pics ive seen of him.

If were going to suppose that there were other shooters involved in some sort of conspiracy, I would expect them to be using a silenced weapon that was accurate and had a flash hider. I would expect them to be highly trained marksmen and be located in an area that is less obvious than the window of the same building that the patsy is in... firing his loud weapon. You would think they would be on a rooftop in at least a 90 degree angle from where the patsy is located.
I would expect them to be using a semiautomatic rifle, taking down as many targets as possible with center of mass shots.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: amazing
The problem with multiple shooters in Mandalay bay is that the Windows were not broken the next morning come daylight. Only the two in that guys room. You can't fix a window that quickly.

What about shooters from elsewhere? Why could that have been the only location?

That's possible. but I keep people talking about multiple rooms of that hotel. We know that's not possible.

What if the whole thing was planned by a clever group of people and they wanted to make it appear like one shooter? If I was planning something like that, I'd find a way to remove the glass and replace it in the room(s) I didn't want to be discovered, and leave the obvious signs with crudely broken windows in one room. Not saying that is what happened, but the blanket argument of no smashed windows, therefore, no shots is a narrow way of looking at it - especially if we really are dealing with a more intricate conspiracy with significant finances and a long time planning.

a reply to: coop039


True, but that doesn't answer my question of why hasn't anyone manage to capture any muzzle flash from the 32 floor, that should have caught peoples eye too

I just started a thread found here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

In that thread is a video clip of someone at the concert showing the strobe light that CT's are focused on being there roughly 2 hours before the shooting..

I still dont think this guy did it. I dont Even think he brought the gun's and gun cases....all 10 of them.... The once who cleaned his room never noticed any of the gun cases🤔 20++ guns in gun cases take up space in a Hotell rom🤔

And the amount of amo.... No way would he be able to keep this hidden in his room.

This poor man was set up. And now everyone is trying their hardest to find a story that fits enough to pin this on him.

There is no images or video klips that show him bringing gun case upon gun case to the hotell.

Usually it does not take a long time before this images are given to the media... But not in this case??? Odd...

originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: Erno86

originally posted by: elementalgrove

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: elementalgrove

Apparently there is a vote scheduled for later in the week about the suppressors, convenient considering this is the very thing that the heinous one Hillary mentioned as soon as she could.



[url=http://yournewswire.com/4chan-vegas-attack/]Strange world. [/url

I was in full support of the "suppressor law" being passed in Congress, but after this latest massacre...I'm dead-set against it being passed and signed by evil Trump.
Had a suppressed firearm been used by the shooter, at 500 yards away at that amplified concert --- how many more innocent people would have been shot?

Less, due to the miracle of physics. The shooter would end up with a molten lump of metal blocking the barrel.

Also, supressor would have little to no effect on whether people knew there was shooting - it would not have reduced the noise enough to hide it - and it would have no effect on how long it took to locate and stop him.

I agree to disagree. At an amplified concert, 500 yards away? A suppressor would have a significant reduction in muzzle report noise, except for the sonic crack of the bullet, (using non-subsonic ammo) --- So much...that it would probably create problems, at locating the direction of where the rifle fire was coming from. This would have probably brought a rise in shooting victims, had the shooter been using a suppressed firearm.

As for "a molten lump of metal blocking the barrel" Ain't gonna happen with an AR or M-16, because "the gas tube is designed to fail before the weapon itself."

Here is an example:

www.youtube.com...

a reply to: spy66

Why would he need to hide them? Vegas is a destination for gun enthusiasts. Plus Paddock was apparently a known whale. The casino will let him do whatever he wants.

Plus, we know at least some of the guns belonged to him since a Vegas gun store owner says he sold a few to Paddock.

a reply to: Erno86


Suppressor would fail under heavy fire before the battle rifle would

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Well the thing is. He was never observed with any gun cases. Not in the lobby or in his hotell rom.

In other words he never had to hide something he never brought to the hotell.... Get it?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: spy66

Why would he need to hide them? Vegas is a destination for gun enthusiasts. Plus Paddock was apparently a known whale. The casino will let him do whatever he wants.

Plus, we know at least some of the guns belonged to him since a Vegas gun store owner says he sold a few to Paddock.

I agree with this assessment but I’m curious why they haven’t released those videos yet... I assumed they would have come out long before going over 24 hours

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Well the thing is. He was never observed with any gun cases. Not in the lobby or in his hotell rom.

In other words he never had to hide something he never brought to the hotell.... Get it?

This is fishy... I would have assumed the cctv footage would be some of the first released...why are they stalling?