President Trump is Hastening ObamaCare Demise - Wants a Better HealthCare System ASAP.

a reply to: xuenchen

You mean , I am right and that is just a ridiculous request for the forums on a conspiracy theory site...

But thats not the bad part.. the bad part is even if he did a 40 page report, you wouldn't care...

It wouldn't be "proof " to you..

Your only interested in trolling, or you would actually post individual thoughts, rather than talking points from rightwing conspiracy sites..

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

It's like the issues with socialism.

They get it, then complain that it's not "real socialism".

They have their government-run healthcare, but it's not "real" government-run healthcare.

hahahahahahaha

So, according to you, the government getting rid of a government run system is the same as the government keeping a government run system?

What kind of dope are you smoking? And did the ACA help you pay for it? Or did you pay for your own?

P.S.

The next time the government enacts a socialist policy, I'm going to call it capitalism and ask if that's what you wanted. Heck, we can do that now. So, the ACA was total capitalism. Isn't that what you wanted?

I mean, it makes about as much sense.

a reply to: xuenchen

Yea the whole thing..

It was a handful of republicans and democrats who banged it all out. Comming up with something they could get a few GOP votes with. Then the authors backed out last second..

It didn't happen in ancient Athens..

a reply to: Gryphon66

Honestly if there is anyone on this whole site it is a waste of time to debate.. he is it..

If you look at the responses they are almost always one sentece nonsense . Without even an actual counterpoint.


Even those hard right you can sometimes get a real debate out of.. not him.

a reply to: carewemust

And you are still under the impression he gives a rat's ass. Bless your heart.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Dudemo5
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You haven't really responded to me or anyone in this thread, so I don't know why you'd start now. All you've done in this thread (and in at least one other thread) is run around saying, "The lefties wanted socialized medicine! Now they've got socialized medicine!"

Except, as has been pointed out to you multiple times, the ACA was health-insurance subsidization (it certainly wasn't Medicare for everyone, which would be a far more socialist system), and what the government is trying to do now is GET RID OF IT.

And you somehow equate that to the problems of "government run healthcare." I mean, it's totally absurd. Your argument has no merit whatsoever.

Here, let me give you an analogy a lot of righties would understand.

Let's say you REALLY want a wall to keep the illegals out. So, they start building the wall, and you're interested to see how it goes, and then all of a sudden they take a wrecking ball to it and knock it down.

And then I say, "See! That's what happens when you build. A wall. You wanted a wall, right? Well, now you've got one!"

And you say,"Uhhh.. hey jackass. I don't have a wall. They just knocked it down."

And I say, "Oh yeah! Tell yourself what you want! You got that wall now, wwoooooooo doggie!"

a reply to: Dudemo5

The government isn't getting rid of sh#t!

What the # are you smoking?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Dudemo5

The government isn't getting rid of sh#t!

What the # are you smoking?

The government isn't trying to get rid of the ACA?

originally posted by: Dudemo5

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Dudemo5

The government isn't getting rid of sh#t!

What the # are you smoking?

The government isn't trying to get rid of the ACA?

You finally understand.

originally posted by: Dudemo5

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Dudemo5

The government isn't getting rid of sh#t!

What the # are you smoking?

The government isn't trying to get rid of the ACA?

Of course they are. How many times did they take it to the Supreme Court? Wasn't it 60 times?

a reply to: angeldoll

Please spare me.

They have the Supreme Court with who they want.
They have a republican president ready to sign.

And congressional republicans just shat in their pants.

They don't want it gone.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: enlightenedservant

Just to be clear, you're openly acknowledging that Trump's deliberately making it harder for people to get healthcare through the ACA, right?

That's one of the most significant things: willfully trying to keep a segment of the country from getting healthcare for a political purpose. Pretty sick.

I agree. Unless it works. If it works, congress will have to come together and enact something that works to "save" everyone. I sure as hell wouldn't go this route, but if it works, it will be hard to look back on it and say bad things. If it fails, just think of all the hatoraid you guys can guzzle. You will literally OD on the stuff.

The government shouldn't bet on or play with people's lives and health with "ifs," and especially not for politics (which you seem to partly agree).

They've had a long time to come up with something, they hold the majority, and they still can't pass jack.

Why? Could it be because any "replacement" thus far proposed is even more foul than that they are attempting to replace, and would do more harm than good?

a reply to: carewemust

Because Donald Trump didn't NEED this job,

Name one president that did.

I disagree with your analysis

Noted.

that he's a cold, heartless President.

I said that?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

So quote the exact language section in the ACA that came about.

And it still doesn't matter.

You will keep paying and paying and paying.

The core of the ACA was from the Republican plan, Xuench. You know this, I know this.

If you want details, look them up. I've already given you the spoon and the bowl.

So why did the Dems pick it out of the dumpster and use it?

Same with Govt Socialist Health Care.

Don't they have any good ideas of their own?

Seems like they dumpster dive the bins of history to get the worst of the worst.

Good thing they didn't write the COTUS.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: PorteurDeMort

Granted, President Trump hasn't lived up to the little things, like not golfing much, but the number of hours he puts in a day more than compensates for the time spent enjoying recreational activities. He accomplishes more in a week than Congress does in a month.

Why even bother trying to lie like that when we all know you’re full of BS?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: angeldoll

Please spare me.

They have the Supreme Court with who they want.
They have a republican president ready to sign.

And congressional republicans just shat in their pants.

They don't want it gone.

Then they are extraordinarily skilled in cover-ups.

And if they don't want it "gone", then why do you think they want to keep it?

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: angeldoll

Please spare me.

They have the Supreme Court with who they want.
They have a republican president ready to sign.

And congressional republicans just shat in their pants.

They don't want it gone.

Then they are extraordinarily skilled in cover-ups.

And if they don't want it "gone", then why do you think they want to keep it?

They want to keep it because except for the cost it is actually good for the USA and employment.

They want to repeal it to keep those guys in the neighborhood that no one likes happy.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: burgerbuddy

This is the government healthcare that the socialists and leftists wanted.

This is their dream come true.

They wanted government to see to their healthcare needs, and they got it.

Actually its not the healthcare socialists and leftists want. It is the compromise to get ANY healthcare reform done with GOP support. Of course the GOP pulled out last min in protest after they got a # ton of additions and amendments added on and then road the wave of false outrage to power.