I Was Just ABDUCTED By Nordics!! Holy Crap!!?!?

a reply to: muzzleflash


What they do is take you into their reality. Only you are aware of what's going on. The naysayers are ignorant of what you experienced, and you can't prove it. Best not to share the experience in a public manner...unless you like ridicule.

originally posted by: Guardian10
a reply to: muzzleflash
Just don't go on another tangent attacking my integrity. Can you do that? I think you can.

I'll oblige your request but please don't attack others integrity first then turn around and play victim while acting pretentious.

I apologize for not understanding your life and all the crap you have gone through that caused you to speak to me the way you did today.

I forgive you because I don't know what you go through.

Please forgive me too for being combative and responding to you aggressively and returning the insulting attitude. I could do better and I'll try.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: muzzleflash


What they do is take you into their reality. Only you are aware of what's going on. The naysayers are ignorant of what you experienced, and you can't prove it. Best not to share the experience in a public manner...unless you like ridicule.

Well, this is only half-public.

No one except the website owners and a few members know who I really am in real life on my ID card.

So I felt OK with the certainty that I'd get hell for this one.
I am honestly surprised this many people were cool with it.

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Specimen

I didn't use the term foo fighters.
I haven't even said that term in months.

It was not fluid.

What do you mean "it came at me"? That sounds odd.

My bad, misread wrong.

It did slowly fly right over and just cloaked like it blinked out of existence. Well not trying to scare you here, or help you build a Golden idol, but it might of noticed you.

Did it zig zag, like a falling leave?

originally posted by: Astrocyte
In ancient times, the aliens would have been gods and goddesses; and your "abduction" would have been some amazing voyage into the underworld, or into the heavens, or into the mountains (Olympus, Meru) etc.

Anytime someone believes the myth or story in which the experience occurs, it is a sign that they are not quite strong within themselves, otherwise the 'otherside' wouldn't have such powerful access to what occurs inside of it.

Question, if I was there to observe you during this incident, would have I have saw anything? Or would it have remained a purely subjective event i.e. for you, albeit, I am not denying that there is a genuine ontological reality being interfaced with.

It's just, to really educated people, this is obviously of a profoundly psycho-spiritual nature, and so, really isn't about aliens from "other planets", anymore than it was a secret race living in the mountains, or in the sky, or on the moon, etc.

This is metaphorical language, fitted to make sense within the biosemiotic constraints of the body i.e. what is "up" is what we believe in (i.e. what is 'up', such as in the trees, is where food and shelter was originally made); what is 'down' is what we are fearful of (i.e. cliffs, holes, etc, are all genetically sown into our structure to be known as 'bad').

It's metaphor. It's a big intellectual mistake to see this as anything more than a relationship between you and the "screen" of objective reality.

Look, I was either on a real spaceship or not.
It's that simple.

If I was, well, your post loses a lot of it's punch.
But if I was not on a spaceship, than your post is incredibly relevant and insightful.

The other individual I saw on there, "JT", is the only one with the key to helping me figure out if this was real or not.

Am I really drinking a cup of coffee right now? Or is it metaphor?
To me, the modern man, it's a metallic container with a plastic lid that keeps my coffee hot all day long.
To the ancient man, it's a clay container that doesn't keep the liquid, probably not coffee in most cultures, hot very long at all especially considering a lot of them didn't drink hot liquids at this time of the day.

If my restructuring of what you are saying is missing the point of your analysis, I apologize.
But I don't see any difference here between a cup of coffee and it's reality or a spaceship with aliens and their reality. Either it's physically real or it's not physically real.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
When my sons were very young (1 and 4) we were visiting my mom in rural NY.
She had a secluded home on a lake near Peekskill...less than a mile from Whitley Streiber's home where he wrote about his abduction experiences in his book Communion.

I remember it was winter...My boys were in their own room (youngest still in a crib) and one morning I was sitting, talking with my older son. He was upset about seeing what he called "Little Doctors" in his and his brother's room the night before.

I asked him to take out his crayons and paper and told him to draw these "Little Doctors".
Without hesitating, he drew perfect examples of several small 'Greys' in white uniforms. One was by his bed...and two were at his brother's crib.

I have never talked about aliens to him...and he didn't even know what they were.

Years later I asked him if he remembered the experience...and he had no recollection.

Wow that's totally freaky.

And he called them doctors.
How relevant to the stories about them being interested in our biology and medical conditions.

I bet you were like "WHOA!!! WTF!"

Thanks for sharing that startling event you had to deal with.
Especially considering it involved your kids and there was nothing you could do about it.

originally posted by: Specimen

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Specimen

I didn't use the term foo fighters.
I haven't even said that term in months.

It was not fluid.

What do you mean "it came at me"? That sounds odd.

My bad, misread wrong.

It did slowly fly right over and just cloaked like it blinked out of existence. Well not trying to scare you here, or help you build a Golden idol, but it might of noticed you.

Did it zig zag, like a falling leave?

Well at first there were 3 of them.

After I lost sight of them around the building, on the second fly-by there was just one of them.

It slowly went dim as it went overhead, back to it's original position I saw it at once I awoke.
It didn't blink out or dart off, it just slowly dimmed out.

Once it got directly overhead of me it was probably half-dimmed out, then fully dimmed out about 2 seconds later.
Because it was moving slow that'd only be a difference in like 4 or 5 degrees in the sky at most.

It didn't zig zag a bunch or anything. I'm not sure about the other 2 because I only saw them momentarily and kept my focus on the brightest one that started right above me. The main one returned along that exact path on the return fly-by.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Hi.
I dont care about your story.
Please. Do that again, and tell them to come visit me.
For the past 5 years, every single fuc*in night I call them.
I had signs. Signs that make me believe 1000000000% they listen but...... I need them to come.
Can you do that?
Thanks

a reply to: andreenzo

Congrats on your first post.

a reply to: thesaneone

Lol. Was it my first post?
I think I had 1 or 2 more. Im here since I remember being online. And im 37.

a reply to: muzzleflash

What makes you an expert in identifying all aircraft worldwide and puts you in the "0.1% of the world that can identify aircraft"?... Where did you get that number from?...

I have had dreams of being inside some spaceships but don't think it means I was abducted. I was trained in the military in identifying aircraft, but I am not the only one. Everyone who has trained in aviation warfare knows how to identify different aircraft, and there are many of us all around the world who went through that training. That still doesn't put any of us in a "top 0.1%" list.

You make exaggerated claims that make me thing the whole thing was made up by you. Can't believe this is the top story in ATS.

You describe yourself as being self-centered and not caring about what happens around the world, and only caring about things that happen to you. Why would any intelligent beings communicate or even abduct you?

And who is JT?

a reply to: muzzleflash

My experience was for me.

As I read your account, what I found was two distinct aspects.
One, the lights overhead and two, the abduction itself.

From your accounting of the time in the ship, it sounded to me as if you were in a dream or maybe fugue state. I say this because of the emphasis you placed on aspects of the experience. For one, finding oneself in an abduction situation would, it seems to me, have you blown out of your mind the whole time. Know what I mean? Yet you seemed to almost take it all in as a matter of course, enough so that you could only ask about something mundane(mundane in the course of being abducted by those who know everything) that is. Your interest in the situation with the woman would in reality be waaaaaaaay down the list of things to ask about at that precise moment, only it wasn't, it was right there at the top.

You also recount other very symbolic images, like the baby on the bed. I think the whole experience was symbolic. That does not mean that I discount the experience as being only a figment of your imagination or dream state, rather that was the means used to communicate to you.

Now, were it not for the experience of waking and finding the lights overhead, it might have been too easy for you to just discount this as merely a dream, a concoction of subconscious concerns created by your free associating mind. And then it would have been gone and lost, like most dreams. However the lights upon waking, and I hate to use this term but I will anyway, ''triggered'' your waking memory of the sleeping experience.

I think that this is one manner in which these ''helping hands'' , these ''those who are watching'' assist us. This holds with a number of experiences I had when I was young, that at times, individuals can use a little extra in navigating their own way through this labyrinth of earthly development. That is what I think may have happened to you.

Another little bit was the lights over head. Who knows what they were, maybe physical and maybe not. One of the things that I came away with from my experiences so long ago was that physical manifestations from the other realm, or the higher realm or whatever we wish to call it are rare and this is do to the amount of energy needed to make the manifestation. I"m sure that others have all the low down on this concept but I just take it at that.

Those lights may have been a final psychic ''slap in the face'' saying ''WAKE UP MUZZLE AND REMEMBER''.
And the purpose of it all? That is not for me or anyone else to conclude, only for you to interpret as best you can in guiding your own life on your own particular course.

And of course, all of that could just be bullship. But one thing for sure, if it was real and not just a figment, it kinda makes the whole Clinton/Trump, good/bad issue very very mundane mundane to the point of being moot.

a reply to: muzzleflash

All of us at some point are 'caught up', have encounters, visitations , something extraordinary seared into our memory. Since you swear that this hasn't happened before and you are not under the influence of any substance, lack of sleep , severe stress, illness, etc...

Certain elements suggest you had an out of body experience...

Ok it started that I came out of this "slide", it was like a waterslide at those water parks, it was a black tube.

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Abducting me in a strange way, it might be similar to Star Trek teleportation but somehow this slide-tube thing is part of it.

Lots of near death or spirit encounters begin with traveling thru a tube or tunnel. In other references, being 'caught up in the spirit' , leaving ones physical self behind, going thru 'doors', etc.

Able to put me back where I was sleeping without major problems.

Bringing up visual images of someone's life events. It was like they can record our perspectives. Maybe they have a device that can pick up brain wave frenquencies and record our visual images and thought patterns?? Looks like it.

Our brains are too large for the tasks it handles. Some think it is mass storage space for our direct experience, our lives are on record all the time, play back is like a movie seen from our perspective. Sort of like a security cam on the wall of our life recording everything , even when we sleep.

Interesting to see your life on playback, huh?

You could have asked anything of them, but you chose the experiences you had with your wife. Remember those images as carefully as you can, see the message contained therein.

Not to worry though, we all carry our lifetime with us in our head, soul , whatever, forever.

Its the permanent record of humanity on earth, lots of knowledge (and regret) there.

You had a similar 'dream' to one I had, in certain aspects.

It was SO WEIRD. I saw this off to the side around a corner near the area where the screens were. I walked around this area for a moment and looked at stuff. It was VERY Star Trek! Everything was metal corridors with lights and stuff. Inside a spaceship.

The 'place' I found myself in was similar, I was sort of allowed to look around too, told however to, "not touch anything!" In one 'room' there was a strange metal diagram on the wall. It was all shiny, had threads connecting dots and spheres on it, all in relief, metallic and very distinct.

It was only much later that I realized what I was looking at was similar to the star map that Betty Hill drew.

Great to hear your experience, I know your spirit from our time together here, I certainly believe you are telling the truth about it...

Get that finger looked at, get some antibiotics from the walkin hospital emergency ward.

OP, I am curious. Has anyone in your family ever talked about simply seeing UFOs? Since coming to ATS in my own curious search, I discovered that it does seem generational. Honestly, I thought my own parents were absolutely nuts and/or attention seekers talking about a UFO my dad tried to crash into with their car!?! My mom apparently seen it too and was scared to death. She was sober being 6 months pregnant with me and my dad actually had a couple of beers.

Simply sharing a little detail. I have always been skeptical of my families stories and denigrated it to crazy attention fantasies. I still have explored the possibilities, yet even science is based only on repeatable observable evidence! It has left me in a conundrum.

So I ask again, has your family ever mentioned even nervously, seeing UFOs?

Edit add: a reply to: TerryMcGuire
Just read your post and want to give you a big thank you for an insightful post that may or may not help muzzle or others. I can say that it does give me food for thought personally.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

And who is JT?

He's probably talking about John Titor??

I'm still waiting for his answer on getting a brain scan for a headache instead of taking aspirin or ibuprofen.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Look, I was either on a real spaceship or not.

Was Moses really communicating with a burning bush? It doesn't have to be an option between those two situations. The spaceship could have been real in your experience, but it doesn't have to be real in the mundane sense i.e. as a spaceship used by another species from another world.

Things can be real - psychologically, and at the same time, via the projection of your neurological/phenomenological experience, bring yourself into a realistic connection with the outside world.

In this sense, your psychological history and the affects/dynamics which construct your actual self informs what actually emerges between you and the physical world around you. It is an archetype: the archetype is the 'yang' of the psychological dynamism of your 'yin'.

This is more or less the scientific way of seeing things; Carl Jung and Wolfgang Pauli postulated something like this over eighty years ago, with the idea that physical reality "complements" the dynamical processes moving through you during moments of intense identification/connection with a particular 'archetype' - which I'd define as the 'sink' which regulates or controls the flow of biodynamical energy through your nervous system/body.

Your explanation seeks to ignore the whole psychological significance of the situation i.e. what it says about you. You genuinely see it as a real external event; with you, and actual aliens (Nordics, in this case) interacting with you as a genuinely existing, other bodied outside force.

Problem with this interpretation is that it attempts to step outside the historical norm, where cultural memory and the complexes they constellate are the source of the mythological and other-worldly ("transdimensional") forms which emerge in human paranormal experience.

These forces are real; they have real effects on reality. So if that is so - and it is; why wouldn't this spaceship just be a modern form of the same historical phenomenon?

a reply to: muzzleflash

Seems like elements of subconcious content from dream state possibly combined with a genuine experience.

I can relate.

Years ago i "dreamt" that i was sleep walking on my street at 3am. i saw 3 greys about 60 feet in front of me.

Long story short, some stuff happened, then there was a gap in my memory.

Next thing i know, im on the street facing to the left. I see the 3 greys walking away. Even had my phone in hand and asked to take a pic. One looked back and shook its head.

Then it went dark.


I get it muzzle.

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: Restricted
Muzzle, I see you're being attacked. Ignore the pinheads and focus on your experience.

I've been there. I've seen things that most people will never believe because they have no frame of reference.

All you can do is share and hope for people like me to reply in solidarity.

If you know anything about shamanism take heart in that. Native peoples valued experiences like ours. We have one foot in an entirely different world and it isn't crazy.

Thank you.

Worst part is I sorta know that person and can tell it's them.
I mistakenly believed they were my friend too.

Guess I'm not on their friend list today, sheesh!

We are walking a different path. It is not a path that is respected here. ATS is skeptic-friendly. That's just the demographic here.

There are a few members who will recognize your experiences and support you, like me.

We have to keep posting though. It's more important to get the information out there and into the wild.

Yes. Well said.

Keep it up everyone. Great work.

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: WhiteWingedMonolith

I honestly never thought I'd call myself a contactee, that's for sure!
Hahaha!

Totally weird twist of events.

I knew what would happen if I came forward with my story too.
But I'd rather people know this happened to me and that it could happen to them too.

Like, if this is all legit than it could happen to any of us at any time.
And my suggestion would be -
1) Get ready to vomit. lol
and
2) Have fun with it.

Well you certainly are a contactee!

Saying you puked tells me you were taken somewhere in a manner that is not physically ordinary for people and it upsets their body.

This could be a prophetic dream too and the experience will physically happen at a later time. If that is true, it will be soon. So just in case it is, and you are ok with being taken, prepare questions like Corey does. If you are not ok with being taken, shield yourself with prayer. Say you don't agree.

Even if you were taken, it not being prophetic, and you are ok with being a contactee, prepare youself with questions to ask.

Also visualize giving any past trauma you've had to God and letting go of it, work on that like Corey has, from there you can be a liaison officer.

TJ isn't an abductee she is an Asguardian queen, her husband is just for cover while here on earth. He is more of a body guard than a mate. She had choosen you to be her mate and seed the universe with your spawn obviously why you were abducted. Yet your in your anger and fear you lashed out at her living her no choice to seek another more stable mate. If you want to be her king go to her and profess your love,tell her you want to have her children throughout the known worlds. Tell her you know she is the Asguardian queen and you devote your life to growing her brood. and this time take your smart phone....