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Major UFO Event at Orleans, France, to come tomorrow September 20th 2017

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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:29 AM
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John, Eric...

Back in 2013 you predicted the following : www.abovetopsecret.com...

The thread was moved to the HOAX bin and then closed awaiting proof...

Your account was terminated too.

No proof was given... and I wonder why???

Unless you come up with CLEAR and CONCISE evidence (even photographic) of what you have may experienced in the past or at this present time then you must accept that many people will question the verity of your claims.

Up until now you have not done so and when people question you, you go straight into "smearing campaign" mode.

There is more than one side to any debate and instead of hiding behind the "smearing campaign" as you put it excuse, why not just provide those who are questioning you with the proof that they are asking you for?

Thank you.

Warmest

Lags



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:31 AM
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What is easier to see who is who is to check the IP. Mine is in France, Lyphian's is in another European country. The time is certainly not enough. Just a coincidence.


I think that you know darned well that only moderation staff on this site can check the IP of members here old chap.

Try again.

Warmest

Lags



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 01:43 AM
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Well, I sat here and asked myself, "why do some people get so worked up about whether or not someones descriptions of their personal experiences, and prophecies, are accurate or not?"

The immediate answer that arose in my head was "it is those who are vulnerable , and those who are concerned about protecting the vulnerable . "

I am not real worried about the possibility of you being wrong on your prophecy, nor even if you have a tendency to pull some little lies on yourself and others to support them. What difference does it make to me?

Did any of you actually go out and do something nutty as a result? Did anyone fall into a frenzy of anxiety and depression after reading his account?
I didn't.

It might be worth it to consider doing something to aid you to feel less vulnerable in the future?
That is of course only a friendly brainstorming idea.

I kinda think there are worse things a person can do.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: Lagomorphe
John, Eric...

Back in 2013 you predicted the following : www.abovetopsecret.com...

The thread was moved to the HOAX bin and then closed awaiting proof...

Your account was terminated too.

No proof was given... and I wonder why???

Unless you come up with CLEAR and CONCISE evidence (even photographic) of what you have may experienced in the past or at this present time then you must accept that many people will question the verity of your claims.

Up until now you have not done so and when people question you, you go straight into "smearing campaign" mode.

There is more than one side to any debate and instead of hiding behind the "smearing campaign" as you put it excuse, why not just provide those who are questioning you with the proof that they are asking you for?

Thank you.

Warmest

Lags

Thanks for your post Lags. There are several topics from my past writings. The Science of Extraterrestrials, the ET World Message 'Do You Wish That We Show Up?, the May 25th 2006 Conditional Tsunami Alert and our personal rapture through The Bible Prophecies Explained At Last!

Each of those topics has been subject to virulent controversies, and many people have mixed them to the point of confusing them. So, everything became a fraud to sell more books, or whatever attention seeker I would be, all of this being reinforced by articles full of lies and / or misunderstandings / misinterpretations / inventions, sometimes made on purpose, sometimes and often written unconsciously based on original desired lies from attackers. Repeat a lie a thousand times it becomes a truth. And the parrots are everywhere, unlike me. That's internet today.

I repeatedly said that I made mistakes about the last topic (Bible prophecies) because I was still on the learning curve of the ET intels we received until very recently. So, I was premature on dates setting since years. Of course, I failed each time I announced a date because I didn't know yet how far involved I will be in the endtimes, not even understanding that our future involvment would be linked to them.

That's why, while having received ET intels showing us parts of our future involvement years ago, I didn't have the whole picture yet. But what was showed to us contained future proofs made available for the public consumption. I was too early and this made readers unfaithful. I apologized for this.

What was considered 'hoaxes' were but premature announcements, NOT hoaxes. The use of a dictionnary would help a lot of people. If you deeply analyze my statements I always kept saying the same things, with little new inputs with time passing since we received new ET intels years after years.

The question of the proof is often underestimated. The real question is not when will we have an unescapable proof. NO. The real questions is what and who will provide worldwide proofs. You can note that no one has ever provided an undeniable proof. The ET have a kind of contract of conduct. They can't provide such a proof without having received God's consent. And this is because of the endtimes program.

Remember the ET World Message, spread since 2003, with a 10 years deadline. The question was: 'Do You Wish That We Show Up?'

The whole world people could have chosen a big YES, and the proof would have been provided in broad daylight. But people mostly chose to mock and limit the spreading of that message, even with its +25 translations. Why? Because of the attacks on the messenger, me. So, the loop is closed. The dark side of the human nature prevented humanity to get that undeniable proof. But it's easier to accuse me than oneself.

Once the ten years deadline has been reached, Prince George was born and the Bible prophecies continued to deploy. That is where the proof had to respect the calendar frame of the endtimes phases. And we now reach the 40 days beyond the end of the Christian era, that is to say the real 7 fractal periods of the 7 churches at the end of which Christ is behind the door. Hence 'CHRIST COMES THE 5TH!' (end of September 2017).



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 01:51 AM
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Nice brain storm my dear...

You still in Annecy on hols?

Cripes... I have been there many a time when I lived in the region of Lyon!

Give me à PM when you want to pop up to the region of the Loire Valley as I have a gite...

Right, what was the topic again?... Blague bien sûr....

Bien amicalement or warmest.

Lags


a reply to: Bluesma



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 01:53 AM
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originally posted by: Lagomorphe


What is easier to see who is who is to check the IP. Mine is in France, Lyphian's is in another European country. The time is certainly not enough. Just a coincidence.


I think that you know darned well that only moderation staff on this site can check the IP of members here old chap.

Try again.

Warmest

Lags

Moderators can close threads and ban people. Why couldn't they confirm that two people are different based on their respective IP? That would help the truth to be said and give them another (often seen as negative) image of their difficult task. It's up to them to take such an initiative, of course, for the sake of the truth.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 01:58 AM
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a reply to: Bluesma

Humanity is in a car rolling at full speed towards a wall. As long as the wall is not reached, everything is quiet in the car. Why would you care about the wall?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:02 AM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe

I'm back home now. Watch out Lags, I might take ou up on it!

We went to the Loire valley last year and want to do it again. I want to visit more castles.

We have a gite too... except once finished, I decided I like it better than the house, so now we're living in it.

Keep that in mind too - we do go back in the house when people come to stay. You guys can come down here also!

We have a jacuzzi on a terrace with an awesome view - perfect for watching the skies on the lookout for UFO's!
Maybe Eric can do a flyby !



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: Bluesma
a reply to: Lagomorphe

I'm back home now. Watch out Lags, I might take ou up on it!

We went to the Loire valley last year and want to do it again. I want to visit more castles.

We have a gite too... except once finished, I decided I like it better than the house, so now we're living in it.

Keep that in mind too - we do go back in the house when people come to stay. You guys can come down here also!

We have a jacuzzi on a terrace with an awesome view - perfect for watching the skies on the lookout for UFO's!
Maybe Eric can do a flyby !


I will take you up on that for the gites my dear.

Watch your PMs.

Warmest

Lags



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:18 AM
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a reply to: UndeadWarrior

Thanks for your comment. The Canadian forum is named SCEPTIQUE (skeptic). What can you wait for from skeptic members but attacks against my fringe work?
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:20 AM
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Should i assume nothing happened on the 20th and move on?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:22 AM
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originally posted by: Ghostsinthefog
Should i assume nothing happened on the 20th and move on?

Something (personal and private) happened on September 20th, but not what was announced. The new dates are September 27th / 28th. Just a week later.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:23 AM
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a reply to: Bluesma

I don't pilot ET ships...yet. Sorry. I can't control UFOs trajectories.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:30 AM
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originally posted by: John4564
a reply to: Bluesma

Humanity is in a car rolling at full speed towards a wall. As long as the wall is not reached, everything is quiet in the car. Why would you care about the wall?


More importantly, there's nothing they can do about the wall, so why waste time screeching about it beforehand?

You know, these sorts of things have spurred a lot of reflection on my part. Especially since we were shown catastrophic events and visions of being picked up by ships, and all that too.

I didn't invest quite as much in it as you - I figured there were so many potential ways to interpret it all (I could have been psychotic, it might have been all symbolic imagery pertaining to personal spiritual cycles, it might have been military experiments being done on civilians to experiment with mind control and manipulation, etc.)

One of the many possibilities is this -

In my experiences, dring the first daytime, up close observation of a UFO, there was a strange influence connected to someone who was passed away. I felt as if I was recieving messages from my dead mother... from the ship!

That didn't make any sense - what does an afterlife have to do with alien entities???
My experience is not uncommon though. Many have witnessed such a combination of paranormal events. Thus the hypothesis of these being interdimensional travellers instead of interstellar....

But the idea this leads to, in regards to end of times and catastrophic prophecies is-

Our souls might just jump from container to container as we choose (obviously your prophecy touches on that sort of concept....?). So that "rapture" or Ascension is being taken up in a ship. But not with your physical body. For those on earth, you just die.

You might be experiencing something awesomely wonderful. But for the rest, well, you simply died.

That would indicate that each time there is a terrible natural disaster, a terrorist attack, a war, a deadly infectious virus, a holocaust.... there are souls ascending, being raptured. Each of us experience Armeggedon at different times.

The final battle and end times might not be one big event for the whole world, it might be a spiritual event, a very personal event.... it might be always happening somewhere, at any given moment.

Perhaps, there will be an event soon in which many will die (war with NK? Terrorism? Natural event??). Perhaps you will be one of them. Perhaps I will be. Perhaps you are seeing someone elses rapture that will happen?

I don't know, of course. Just pointing out this possibility. You might ascend one of these days, but maybe all we'll know of it is that you had a heartattack, were hit by a car, was in a crowd during a terrorist attack, or killed in a massive earthquake.... while you are up there in the ship preparing your next incarnation....


ETA - you didn't have lessons at one point? I thought I read that. You are a pilot though, no? (human aircraft ?)
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 03:26 AM
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a reply to: Bluesma

Thanks for your long and interesting post. I see that you already have had reflexions on all of this. How does my views differ and could be closer to the truth? Let's review what I spoke about, directly coming from ET experiences.

1) The Science of Extraterrestrials: praised by scientists, it explains why and how ET ships work and belong to the spiritual realm when not materialized. So, it happens that dead also live in the spriitual realm. How is that surprising that dead beloved ones are heard or seen in ET ships while being in an altered state, should it be just slightly altered? This book, explaining hard scientific mysteries too, also addresses how the physical body, when abducted, is in the spiritual realm.

So, you have guesses. I have explanations.

2) The Bible Prophecies Explained at Last!: rather than choosing the lazy way to see the endtimes and their countless interpretations based on random cherry-picked verses, I preferred to read it all and to connect the dots, thanks to an heavenly help. But above all, I confronted those dots to the reality of history. Once done, I saw that those prophecies actually were extremely more literal than one usually thinks. So, all the lazy symbolical views suddenly had no meanings. And the real prophecies had everything to do with real people and real situations. And among those situations are physical abductions...with ET ships...in the texts! There are a LOT of cases of physical abductions with ET ships in the Bible, not simple deaths that some would see as rapture.

So, you have guesses. I have a deep, relevant, coborrating and proved study.

At one point in time, you will have to choose between your lazy beliefs and the truth. If you love the truth enough, you will be saved because salvation won't come from your kindness alone but your love, your compassion, your faith and your open mind (and your forgiveness too of course). It is not because you don't believe something that it is not the way reality works.

At last, I announce a major UFO event to help people adopt the right interpretation. You just comment my prediction, focusing on its unuseful date setting. But once come true, it will have a far more powerful interest to serve my work.

Weird and paranormal experiences don't mean you understand them. It just means that you have been provided with means to dig more to understand them. Most of people stop when it just starts. That's why many of them will be lost.
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 03:29 AM
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originally posted by: Bluesma

ETA - you didn't have lessons at one point? I thought I read that. You are a pilot though, no? (human aircraft ?)

Yes, I had trainings in an ET ship to pilot it. But I just failed to reach the proper skills level. They wanted to show me that I need a new body and its new skills to do so. And yes, I have been executive pilot on jets.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 03:36 AM
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originally posted by: Bluesma

originally posted by: John4564
a reply to: Bluesma

Humanity is in a car rolling at full speed towards a wall. As long as the wall is not reached, everything is quiet in the car. Why would you care about the wall?


More importantly, there's nothing they can do about the wall, so why waste time screeching about it beforehand?

There is so much things people can do to avoid the wall: love, compassion, faith and open mind. My commitment is to warn them about the whos, the whats, the whys, the hows and the whens.

The rapture is the solution to avoid the effects of the crash. Some people - the 144,000 - will avoid the time when the car will touch the wall (pre-tribulations). Many others - the Great Multitude - thanks to their good behavior, will find themselves in the back of the car (post-Tribulations). So, when the people at the front (first hit) will be lost, those behind will have time to be taken before touching the wall themselves. And those in the trunk, trapped in their wrong doings, will not even see the wall coming. They will be lost too.
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 03:40 AM
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originally posted by: John4564

originally posted by: Bluesma

ETA - you didn't have lessons at one point? I thought I read that. You are a pilot though, no? (human aircraft ?)

Yes, I had trainings in an ET ship to pilot it. But I just failed to reach the proper skills level. They wanted to show me that I need a new body and its new skills to do so. And yes, I have been executive pilot on jets.


PROOF!?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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originally posted by: John4564

originally posted by: Ghostsinthefog
Should i assume nothing happened on the 20th and move on?

Something (personal and private) happened on September 20th, but not what was announced. The new dates are September 27th / 28th. Just a week later.


September 27th / 28th 2017?

Or when those dates come and go as normal days with nothing out of the ordinary happening will the year be changed to 2018, 2019, 2020.....?

MR



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: John4564

originally posted by: Bluesma

ETA - you didn't have lessons at one point? I thought I read that. You are a pilot though, no? (human aircraft ?)

Yes, I had trainings in an ET ship to pilot it. But I just failed to reach the proper skills level. They wanted to show me that I need a new body and its new skills to do so. And yes, I have been executive pilot on jets.


PROOF!?

Proof of what? ET ships pilot training or executive pilot job?



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