Major UFO Event at Orleans, France, to come tomorrow September 20th 2017

originally posted by: John4564
Feel free to ask questions if you have any.

I have a question. Fully knowing you will be abducted and all the end of the world situation coming after, do you still pay your taxes? Or any bills in fact?

originally posted by: szino9

originally posted by: John4564
Feel free to ask questions if you have any.

I have a question. Fully knowing you will be abducted and all the end of the world situation coming after, do you still pay your taxes? Or any bills in fact?

Of course, our life remains normal. We want to be clear with that society before we change from one life to another. The 'end of that world' will be progressive, not brutally coming, except for us who will see it ahead of time once changed. But we don't see why we would have to stop paying what we use, commodities for which others worked for.

a reply to: John4564

But we don't see why we would have to stop paying what we use, commodities for which others worked for.

What do you think of Welfare recipients(any state aid) during this upcoming change?

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: John4564

But we don't see why we would have to stop paying what we use, commodities for which others worked for.

What do you think of Welfare recipients(any state aid) during this upcoming change?

The coming economic collapse - fall of Babylon - won't spare anyone. One of the first early victim will be the Welfare recipient. The best answer to this new situation is a friendly community where people help each other, particularly in the countryside. But frankly there will be sufferings after the rapture period (2024 - 2031).

If I had an advice for everyone that would be: make everything to be loving, compassionate, open minded and faithful. Your light will be seen from heaven, and that is this light seen in your aura that will make you selected. Humans are like stars in the night. The brightest ones will be taken.

That's why there won't be any negociation. The wicked can't emit light. The meek can.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Bluesma
Cool!

But you are going to be really embarrassed if things don't go down as announced. Don't do anything rash... remember that sometimes specific details get lost in translation sometimes.

Is this you?
Eric Julien's hoax

The second I read this post I had the same feeling. Jean Ederman and Oliver are 2 other names he goes by here...or went by.

Spot on VC! Yes, this is Olivet in another phase of delusion. Here are some of his previous hoaxes I presume he thinks some of us had forgot about.

UFO sighting over London thread

William and Kate as two witnesses thread

Random 2012 significant date

Some people never learn.

originally posted by: John4564
If I had an advice for everyone that would be: make everything to be loving, compassionate, open minded and faithful. Your light will be seen from heaven, and that is this light seen in your aura that will make you selected. Humans are like stars in the night. The brightest ones will be taken.

That's why there won't be any negociation. The wicked can't emit light. The meek can.

So John,

If I am correct you are French right?

With all that is going on in France right now how do you feel about your "Patrie" so to speak and how this affects your personal predictions?

i personally would appreciate a laymans term explanation please!

Thank you.... 3 minutes to go...

Warmest

Lags

originally posted by: szino9

originally posted by: John4564
Feel free to ask questions if you have any.

I have a question. Fully knowing you will be abducted and all the end of the world situation coming after, do you still pay your taxes? Or any bills in fact?

Nice

10 minutes to go....

Nice sky and mellow whisky....

Warmest

Lags

Haven't been on ATS in a while, was hoping I stumbled into another thread like the guy with the flying triangles(not sure if I'm allowed to use his name.) from a few years ago. Nonetheless, I was disappointed...

originally posted by: John4564
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There are big chances to be in the MSM on a Friday, probably next Friday as seen in a vision where a major French TV channel (the anchor was in the vision) and a major US News channel (maybe CNN) were talking about that topic (UFO over Orleans, France). Given the specific circumstances of last week, and the intels attached to them, I don't see any reason for this Orleans UFO Event not to take place.
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Hello ATSers,

I have been a long time reader of these forums, however have never found the courage to join in, discuss and contribute before today. I will attempt to fulfill those 3 things in my first post and see where this adventure takes me.

The author regardless of dementia or divine intervention is clearly passionate about this subject and has invested hours into this. I have actually read a good section of this free ebook, which I am sure most have not. It is very far "fetched" however highly thought out and analytical. None of this or some of this may prove to be true, regardless of if this is fiction/doomporn or not, this person has invested quite a bit of time in what he believes will help save some of humanity and that should be in some way, shape or form commended.

I do not necessarily believe we will see the end times in a few hours...I do believe that it is a very real possibility that I will see the end of the world as we know it in my lifetime whether that be via natural disasters, war, economy collapse, zombies, ET, etc. Current world events have me thinking some of these are occurring or are highly likely to occur in combination/variety, I'm sure I am not the only one on this planet who thinks so.

That said, I have been constantly reading up on world events in recent months/years and did keep an eye out for what the poster said in the quote above.
Although no UFO has been spotted over Orleans, France I have found something highly coincidental. I truly do not believe even if a UFO was spotted, that MSM would be permitted to communicate it unless under extreme conditions.

This news broke out in France first and is somewhat "BIG" news for them, and made CNN news late last night as well.
World's Wealthiest Woman died In the night of Wednesday to Thursday.
CNN Coverage

This is coincidental for many reasons...for one the name of the company which her father founded...L'oreal is very close to the city name referred too by the poster (Orleans) and if this comes via the "dream world", other means of communication, or something cryptic, this could be a simple mistake.

Beyond this coincidence, researching just a bit seems to indicate the death of a long living socialite/elite illuminati member. What leads me to believe this...well for one, she's one of those people that owns large sections of the world and you don't hear about in the news generally(she has history in the "lens" though).
What gets weirder is her fathers history with "la cagoule"(the hood).
Eugene Schueller Wiki
La Cagoule
Nazi sympathizer and potentially highly influential in the creation of the european union according to this?
The Hidden Hand

Did E.T. go home? What say you ATS? Fascinating to see what some of these wealthy folks have been involved in to essentially take over the world as they have using the economy!

Edit:
Oh and "L'oreal" comes from lore, which according to thefreedictionary represents: Accumulated knowledge or beliefs held by a group about a subject, especially when passed from generation to generation by oral tradition.

random blog post i found worth reading about the meaning of L'oreal
...worth it because essentially it was derived from a french word which means "Halo".

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: John4564
If I had an advice for everyone that would be: make everything to be loving, compassionate, open minded and faithful. Your light will be seen from heaven, and that is this light seen in your aura that will make you selected. Humans are like stars in the night. The brightest ones will be taken.

That's why there won't be any negociation. The wicked can't emit light. The meek can.

So John,

If I am correct you are French right?

With all that is going on in France right now how do you feel about your "Patrie" so to speak and how this affects your personal predictions?

i personally would appreciate a laymans term explanation please!

Thank you.... 3 minutes to go...

Warmest

Lags

You're correct, I am French. We are French. I don't feel anything special about my 'Patrie', and it doesn't affect Christ's prophecies (NOT being MY prediction). The new paradigm that is coming will change the perspective of the role of the nations in people's mind. However, the true Christian royalty will live a resurrection, but not the way most of people think about it.

Democracies have perverted spirituality to the point of making it a simple cultural bias. What is fringe today will be central tomorrow. Europe will be a new place soon. Great Britain and France will be the two lungs of a new spiritual breath for the world. This will take time but a new Alliance will appear. And many will fear this powerful Alliance.

a reply to: John4564

No spaceships?

Damn.

a reply to: UndeadWarrior
First of all, thank you for having read a portion of my book (it's a pity you didn't read it all). Thanks to share your opinion and your off topic insight. Unfortunately, you don't offer an analysis about your opinion, just a peremptory judgment, what is the easiest and laziest way to share an opinion, therefore making it uneducated. But I am honored you started with this thread to participate in the ATS forums.

By the way, I do not know where you found that I stated that we will know the end times in few hours. Makes me doubt about the seriousness of your 'objective' reading. Besides, everyone knows that no UFO has been seen over Orleans on September 20th since, in page 9 of this thread, I explained my mistake about last Wednesday and stated that the Orleans UFO event has to take place this week-end up to the 25th.

At last, your off-topic points are very farfetched because you mix the date of the L'Oreal owner's death with the place of a factory close to Orleans (L'Oreal HQ are in Paris, Clichy actually) with words supposed roots and vague illuminati connections and with whatever dot you believe to be relevant. Not sure that your 'opinion' about the book has been solidified by such a confused and delusional 'analysis'. You could have avoided your first post to be wrong by just reading my posts.

Cheers.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: John4564

No spaceships?

Damn.

Please, refer to the link provided in my answer just above. Thanks.

a reply to: UndeadWarrior

Hi, I enjoyed your post!

Now, this is why, in my first post in this thread, I mentionned that sometimes these messages get a bit twisted in interpretation. Anyone who has had experience with prophetic sort of visions or messages knows that the subconscious speaks a different language than the conscious intellect. When our ego tries to de-code, there is a tendancy to interpret along it's own desires, wishes, concerns, or simply through it's limited knowledge.

What you end up with is often a total misinterpretation, and the correct interpretation only becomes clear in hindsight. Then it we slap our forehead and say, well duh, of course! How did I not see that???

The only way to use such information is to stay "light" as I tend to say - keep your ego a bit detached and distanced, don't try to grab and "possess" the information with your grubby mental fingers. It's like capturing butterflies - you kill them that way.

Anyway, I appreciated your input and open minded looking into the subject , even if the OP doesn't .

originally posted by: Bluesma
a reply to: UndeadWarrior

Hi, I enjoyed your post!

Now, this is why, in my first post in this thread, I mentionned that sometimes these messages get a bit twisted in interpretation. Anyone who has had experience with prophetic sort of visions or messages knows that the subconscious speaks a different language than the conscious intellect. When our ego tries to de-code, there is a tendancy to interpret along it's own desires, wishes, concerns, or simply through it's limited knowledge.

Thank you for this comment. Obviously, years of cryptic messages and intels led me to separate the mental interpretations to the 'subconscious' interpretations. But at one point in time you realize that the date related intels come true. There is a learning curve, of course, but the nature of these intels will depend on your commitment in God's Plan. That's why 99% of the population receive just 'suconscious' symbolic messages for they are not in God's plan as endtimes figures.

I first refused to believe I was involved that much in the biblical prophecies, precisely the opposite of the ego trip. That's even why I always speak about the future Two Witnesses as if they were someone else. I guess you noted that, didn't you?

originally posted by: Bluesma
What you end up with is often a total misinterpretation, and the correct interpretation only becomes clear in hindsight. Then it we slap our forehead and say, well duh, of course! How did I not see that???

The only way to use such information is to stay "light" as I tend to say - keep your ego a bit detached and distanced, don't try to grab and "possess" the information with your grubby mental fingers. It's like capturing butterflies - you kill them that way.

Anyway, I appreciated your input and open minded looking into the subject , even if the OP doesn't .

Well, UndeadWarrior used the date of my intel to discuss its meaning (while having not read the corrective post I linked). The problem is that he would have needed the whole situation of the vision, that I fully explained in the other thread, to know whether his interpretation has a meaning or not. And it is not about 'possessing' the information but honestly fully analyzing it.

Besides, for an open minded looking into the subject of this thread, I find his 'opinion' about my book contradicting your compliment to him. Are you mocking him? That wouldn't be very fair.

originally posted by: John4564

Besides, for an open minded looking into the subject of this thread, I find his 'opinion' about my book contradicting your compliment to him. Are you mocking him? That wouldn't be very fair.

No, I am not mocking him. It seems to me (you will tell me if I am wrong) that you and I read his post slightly differently.

I did not see him make any claims to this particular connection he made as being "correct". What I saw was a proposal of another alternative possibility. He presented it as another hypothesis , which included acknowledgement of your messages and experiences .... which is rather open minded.
I am sure it hasn't escaped your attention that the majority of the people responding here are not willing to go as far as he did in acknowledging a possible validity at all to your messages!

As far as conscious versus subconscious.... I have my own way of seeing how these parts of ourselves interact, and interaction with aliens, spirits, angels, God, entities of many more dimensions, etc. all touch upon the subconscious mind. All that is not currently part of collective beliefs and education is pushed to the subconscious processing system. If it was all conscious, why do you not consciously remember before you were born in this world and when you part of making this contract? How come you didn't simply remember the whole plan since the day you were born?

My hypothesis is that it is because half of your being was made subconscious.

But I am going off your subject. Suffice it to say, we obviously see some things differently. But that's okay. I might be wrong and am not very invested in this view. In any case, we'll all see if your interpretation is right this time, eh?

Is today the big day??? Beautiful weather here in the South, is it there too? If the ships come, we should have great visibility!


Look at the sky yesterday -

originally posted by: Bluesma

originally posted by: John4564

Besides, for an open minded looking into the subject of this thread, I find his 'opinion' about my book contradicting your compliment to him. Are you mocking him? That wouldn't be very fair.

No, I am not mocking him. It seems to me (you will tell me if I am wrong) that you and I read his post slightly differently.

I did not see him make any claims to this particular connection he made as being "correct". What I saw was a proposal of another alternative possibility. He presented it as another hypothesis , which included acknowledgement of your messages and experiences .... which is rather open minded.
I am sure it hasn't escaped your attention that the majority of the people responding here are not willing to go as far as he did in acknowledging a possible validity at all to your messages!

As far as conscious versus subconscious.... I have my own way of seeing how these parts of ourselves interact, and interaction with aliens, spirits, angels, God, entities of many more dimensions, etc. all touch upon the subconscious mind. All that is not currently part of collective beliefs and education is pushed to the subconscious processing system. If it was all conscious, why do you not consciously remember before you were born in this world and when you part of making this contract? How come you didn't simply remember the whole plan since the day you were born?

My hypothesis is that it is because half of your being was made subconscious.

But I am going off your subject. Suffice it to say, we obviously see some things differently. But that's okay. I might be wrong and am not very invested in this view. In any case, we'll all see if your interpretation is right this time, eh?

Is today the big day??? Beautiful weather here in the South, is it there too? If the ships come, we should have great visibility!


Look at the sky yesterday -

Thank you very much for your beautiful pictures! We also have a good weather here at Orleans, even if quite covered with clouds this morning. Tomorrow (the D-Day, but with no precise time) will be even clearer, which would be good to film their arrival (let's hope it will be in broad daylight, but not sure at all about that).

I better understand your point, provided that, in that case, UndeadWarrior would be above the average Joe in his approach. Nevertheless his hypothesis - if I understood it correctly - would mean that the 'Wednesday rapture' would have been those of the L'Oreal owner instead of ours. Well, it's a 'little bit' far from the context of the vision.

My understanding of the 'subconscious' seems to be different from yours. I explain the contacts with the spiritual realm, should it be with any of the beings one can imagine / interpret, with the fractal time as lengthily explained in my book The Science of Extraterrestrials.

The point is that the whole universe is made of layers of space-time fractals, from which phenomena are only but by-products, with the simple law: the more there is space, the less there is time, and conversely. But space and time must be understood as quantum entities (number of quanta).

When we return from a spiritual experience (visions, dreams, remote viewing sessions, etc) we lose a big part of this experience the same way the quantum measurements lose a big part of the quantum phenomena. This is called the wave packet reduction.

So, when we return from any spiritual experience, including the abductions, into the physical 'waking state' we experience a wave packet reduction of our conscience, that is to say a sudden decrease of our perception of the spiritual space-time (higher time densities actually). i.e. of the numerous 'data' received 'up there'. That's why the dreams seem erratic and strange, without linearity.

There are ways to not lose too much from these experiences. First, meditation, then a slow wake up and, last, hypnosis. But when a message is conveyed to us it could be to help us in our physical life, should it be a premonitory situation. In that case, to better remember it, it is presented with symbols which better sum up the message. Now, the way to interpret these symbols must absolutely be linked to the context of the vision / dream. Otherwise, it has no meaning. Each time I tried to disregard the context I made mistakes.

In other words, there is 'subconsciousness' and 'subconsciousness'. The first one is shared by the vast majority of the people, and many have tried to see universal symbols through dreams because of humans' stereotypes. The second one is rather the spiritual path to (re)discover how to fully live the spiritual experiences. And that needs a learning curve to open the 'funnel' enabling you to remember more from your divine nature and experience.

So, to make it shorter, depending on your abilities to fully experience and remember your spiritual contacts, you will better interpret the intels received, even if some intels seem to have several meanings. The level of cryptography of these messages / intels could be due to several reasons.

They don't lie per se. They hide meanings still to understand at the proper time. For exemple, as time flows differently 'up there', a conversation could last years with pieces of that conversation every month or years. This is due to the tests they put on your path to see whether you really look for a spiritual life or whether you just play guessing games. That's why one must note every weird dream or experience to the least details which could have a significance later.

Maybe this illustrated article of mine, UFO oriented, could help you understand the point.