Four American Female Tourists Attacked With Acid at French Train Station

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
For the most part this is true. Unless you hate yourself and opt to visit Philthadelphia.

Never been. Was recently in Florida and apart from being too damn hot, yes, you're quite right. I have to say pretty much everyone we spoke to was really friendly and really helpful and polite.

But... I think that's more about people being... nice...people? And not the fact that I wasn't armed and they were..?

Maybe I'm wrong. But I like to think Americans are decent people not because they're armed but because deep down, they're decent people.

originally posted by: noonebutme
Maybe I'm wrong. But I like to think Americans are decent people not because they're armed but because deep down, they're decent people.

I like to think most people are nice people, firearms or not. But I'm just an optimist, what do I know?

And for the record, I'm in the process of planning my next trip to Italy where the worst thing that happened last time was the panhandlers trying to sell my $20 selfie sticks at the bottom of the Spanish Steps.

a reply to: [post=22675975]noonebutme

Ok Mr/Ms literal it was an expression that was meant to highlight the seemingly rampant and increasing violence and crime that Europe is experiencing in direct correlation with droves of "refugees", and the subsequent lack of response from authorities and government.

How do any of us over here know what's true and what's not? We have some saying it's worse than we hear then others say it's all BS and everything is cool. There are reports of crimes being covered up or facts being withheld in the name of PC.

So calm down I know you're not actually "cool" with it but I'm still left wondering why the response has been so limp wristed and ineffective.

originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix
I've still yet to see a source for this?!?

The latest.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Thank you! So it seems that authorities "do not believe it is extremism at this point in time".

a reply to: RainbowPhoenix


That's what it says at this time. Seems to be a mentally unstable person from what they described.

There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim. If the extremists were the winning side, they would move towards them without a doubt. They are not your enemies right now, but they will be the moment it's convenient for them.

originally posted by: TJames

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: TJames

I wouldn't disagree, but what does a warped version of Islam have to do with the real Islam? What does the warped version of the WBC have to do with real Christianity?

So you condemn the warped Wahabbi Islam doctrine then? That is good, we seem to have made progress.

...and it only took 15 times asking the same question. One wonders what would 3NL1GHT3N3D1 had said in WWII.

originally posted by: pavil
...and it only took 15 times asking the same question. One wonders what would 3NL1GHT3N3D1 had said in WWII.

Lol, I know!
I see it often on various social media platforms, people desperate to stop any commentary which considers the rather obvious situation that there is a particular problem in the UK/EU Muslim community right now which does not exist with Sikh's, Hindu's etc.

I appreciate the authorities are saying the horrific crime in the OP was committed by someone mentally unstable and not ideologically inspired though so the last few pages of discussion are kinda moot now.
Thoughts for the poor girls injured in the attack.

originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix
a reply to: [post=22675975]noonebutme

Ok Mr/Ms literal it was an expression that was meant to highlight the seemingly rampant and increasing violence and crime that Europe is experiencing in direct correlation with droves of "refugees", and the subsequent lack of response from authorities and government.

For one, look at the stats - the crime rates in France are still WAY behind those of the USA.
In this case, Assault, the rate in the US is4 times that of France.
www.nationmaster.com...

In cases of terrorism, (which I understand you mistook this for at first and was actually referring to) the terrorists are almost always French citizens, born in France! NOT refugees.

Check out those stats-
www.nationmaster.com...

Global Terrorism Indicator - USA 3 times more than France

Terrorist Acts > 1968-2006 > Deaths to Incidences ratio- USA 35 times more than France

Terrorist Acts > 1968-2006 > Fatalities - USA 18 times more than France

In the last few years, there has actually been more incidences in France than in the USA, but the deaths continue to be several times that of France in the same period. Meaning, in the last few years, there has been more smaller or less dangerous terrorist acts in France. The USA has less of them, but when they happen they are bigger.

The problem is more complicated than it seems at first glance. We have a problem with french people, often of Algerian or Moroccan descent (parents or grandparents immigrated here), who become vulnerable to influence by extremist groups. They are even largely contacted and recruited through internet.

The more they experience prejudice from the other french population, the more open they become to the extremists, naturally.
By treating all people who come from an arabic speaking background as undesirable, we push more recruits into their arms. That is what they WANT. That is how they get them, pushing the "white people all hate you and want to kill you, so join us" idea. They are thanking Allah for your aid in the movement.

The problem is complex, even though lots of beer drinking armchair politicians might claim they got it all figgered out, no college education necessary...

How do any of us over here know what's true and what's not? We have some saying it's worse than we hear then others say it's all BS and everything is cool. There are reports of crimes being covered up or facts being withheld in the name of PC.

I'll agree that it is very difficult to get all the picture (an know if you have). For one, Europe is large. It is made up of different countries, all very different from each other. Their experiences with the refugees differ too.

The difference in culture, attitudes, living style, all provoke different sorts of reactions from the refugees, and attract certain kinds of refugees.

For example, in countries where one must have employment to benefit from the social net , only people who desire to work will come and stay,
Those who want to benefit without working move on towards countries that offer that possibility...
Therefore, you'll see different behaviors from each of those groups.

It might be helpful to not limit yourself to American news sources. Look into other sources, and initiate dialogue with people who actually live there. The internet is awesome for that! Ask questions.. go ahead and describe what you've heard and gathered so far, but be as specific and clear as you can. In the US, it is common to make really extreme statements and the listener will sort of get that you are exaggerrating a little, because everyone is sort of de-sensitized to that through action packed thrilling media (movies, tv, journalism...). But not all foriegners are used to that and might hear it as being irrational and well...nutso!

So calm down I know you're not actually "cool" with it but I'm still left wondering why the response has been so limp wristed and ineffective.

No, we're not cool with it, at all. On the other hand, we've got a situation that isn't simple to fix. We're trying to come up with good solutions but there is no quick and easy solution.

originally posted by: Bluesma
Those who want to benefit without working move on towards countries that offer that possibility...
Therefore, you'll see different behaviors from each of those groups.

That is a major reason why the hoardes are camped at Calais trying to get into the UK. English being the most popular second language around the world doesn't help us either.
They have the opportunity to claim asylum in France but refuse to do so because once they do their opportunity to do so in Britain is gone. You can't illegally enter and claim asylum in Britain after claiming it in another safe country first.

I don't wish the problems these mostly fighting age men present you in France, but I sure as hell support the UK government standing firm and refusing entry at the juxtaposed border we have.
I chuckled when the French government threatened to end the juxtaposed border arrangement because the UK response will simply be to treat ships and trains as airplanes work, no passport you ain't getting on.
Sorry France but there is nothing you can do to force the UK take those economic migrants off your hands.
Blame Merkel.

originally posted by: Bluesma


No, we're not cool with it, at all. On the other hand, we've got a situation that isn't simple to fix. We're trying to come up with good solutions but there is no quick and easy solution.

I don't know how Europe fixes this situation . The proverbial genie is out of the bottle. How do you think the best way to fix things is? Honestly I'd rather hear from people there. It's your problem to figure out.


You basically had to pay extortion to Turkey or else things would have gone far worse with waves of immigrants this Spring and Summer. What happens when Turkey wants more in Ransom?

originally posted by: LiberLegit
There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim. If the extremists were the winning side, they would move towards them without a doubt. They are not your enemies right now, but they will be the moment it's convenient for them.

So why are people so upset about these 4 terrorist American women getting attacked by another terrorist.

By you way of thinking, as America is causing terror by the very definition of it in the middle East. All Americans must be terrorists, right?

See how your logic is dumb?

originally posted by: TJames

That is a major reason why the hoardes are camped at Calais trying to get into the UK. English being the most popular second language around the world doesn't help us either.
They have the opportunity to claim asylum in France but refuse to do so because once they do their opportunity to do so in Britain is gone. You can't illegally enter and claim asylum in Britain after claiming it in another safe country first.

I don't wish the problems these mostly fighting age men present you in France, but I sure as hell support the UK government standing firm and refusing entry at the juxtaposed border we have.
I chuckled when the French government threatened to end the juxtaposed border arrangement because the UK response will simply be to treat ships and trains as airplanes work, no passport you ain't getting on.
Sorry France but there is nothing you can do to force the UK take those economic migrants off your hands.
Blame Merkel.

Yeah, I know, and we do. WTF was she thinking???

But also, knowing that they can get health care and all that without even having to be employed is very attractive!
We're housing the few that want to stay- we have a lot of families settling in, and personally in our town, we've seen no crime from them, they are mostly black africans (non-muslim) with little kids and such.

I wonder if they will pass around the word that it is impossible to get in to the UK and it will cut down on the number going through France to get over there? I dunno.

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: Bluesma


No, we're not cool with it, at all. On the other hand, we've got a situation that isn't simple to fix. We're trying to come up with good solutions but there is no quick and easy solution.

I don't know how Europe fixes this situation . The proverbial genie is out of the bottle. How do you think the best way to fix things is? Honestly I'd rather hear from people there. It's your problem to figure out.


You basically had to pay extortion to Turkey or else things would have gone far worse with waves of immigrants this Spring and Summer. What happens when Turkey wants more in Ransom?

Good question!

originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix
Well the title pretty much gets to the point of it. I can not for the life of me understand how Europeans are just cool with some kind of "terroristic" attack happening every other week. It's friggin insane and I would expect a civilized nation to rise up and expel such threats from their home nations.

The suspect is a 41 year old mentally ill woman and the police have said it was not related to terrorism.

originally posted by: Bluesma
I wonder if they will pass around the word that it is impossible to get in to the UK and it will cut down on the number going through France to get over there? I dunno.

I hope so for your sake. Many thousands are clearly in France solely to get to the UK, they have no intention of staying in France and are a major problem for you guys. A friend of mine drives trucks and regularly runs the gauntlet at Calais, he's close to giving it up and getting a lower paid UK based position. The UK government fines drivers up to £2000 for each immigrant found in their trucks and my mate reckons it's a nightmare trying to keep them out. It's hit the Calais area economy badly because no driver wants to stop there even to get fuel these days.

Hopefully the word will get out that Britain is absolutely determined to keep them out so maybe they'll give it up and stay in Germany or somewhere else instead of ruining what used to be a lovely part of northern France.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Anyone remember Katie Piper? She had acid thrown on her by her ex-boyfriend and an accomplice. Why aren't English people denouncing all other English people for that attack! English people are a danger to the world!

Pretty dumb logic. Let's ignore all the other attacks and murders that happen every single day by all religious backgrounds and cultures in favor of this one because it "may" have been a Muslim.

Your prejudices are showing.

Look
acid attack wiki

This is what some of these people do at large in their countries. When the numbers grow large enough expect Gays to be thrown of buildings or burnt alive in Europe too. Later expect sharia, dismemberment, second class status for women, and death for any word against islam.

That is the cultural enrichment people like you've laid for future generations.

originally posted by: Painterz
I do wish you folks would stop repeating this endlessly debunked fascist propaganda about European countries being 'lost' and no-go areas and suchlike. They do not reflect reality.

European countries remain the safest and happiest places to live in the world. Despite this constant terrified bed wetting fear mongering.

Just look at the videos in this thread, REALITY cannot be denied with platitudes.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Well, according to some her religion is Islam. Why? Because that's what they hope it turns out to be. They don't know, but they already "know".

Perhaps, because highest number of acid attacks are from an islamic country and we have open borders for economic migrants from such areas?

An inconvenient truth perhaps.

PS

The left is so Full of BS. You've got people being violently attacked merely for wearing a symbol or saying something. Yet at the same time they want mass immigration of unqualified men to destroy their nations.

They want fascism from a dead man's book. That's what they'll get in Europe thanks to the mass uncontrolled migration theyre allowing. That's what many want for the U.S to decay into a third world slum where you have to worship the fictional rules and deities of a book or risk death.

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

This argument isn't about war atrocities in the Middle East, it's about the inherently violent nature of the Muslim religion. You can make excuses for them all you want, until you're the one with a knife to your throat.

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix
Well the title pretty much gets to the point of it. I can not for the life of me understand how Europeans are just cool with some kind of "terroristic" attack happening every other week. It's friggin insane and I would expect a civilized nation to rise up and expel such threats from their home nations.

The suspect is a 41 year old mentally ill woman and the police have said it was not related to terrorism.

Well I think having one's face sprayed with hydrochloric acid is pretty f*cking terrifying so I don't care what the police call it. It's a terror attack and no amount of media fluff will change that.