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Originally posted by Seapeople
Did you know the bible makes 3 seperate references to the earth...BEING FLAT!
Originally posted by Seapeople
Amazingly, I found many more than three seperate accounts of the earth beoing flat in the bible. Well not amazingly, but rather expected. I mean really, how were they supposed to know.
Isaiah 11:12
Revelation 7:1
Now this one is interesting because of its clear implications.
Daniel 4:11 How could one see the entire world from the top of a tree, if the world was round?
There are about 50 references to "the ends of the earth, and I will have to go digging to find them all.
There are a lot of references just like this all through the bible. Referring to the world sitting on a foundation, or pillars in two instances. You can (and christians will) claim that these statements are metephoprical. Funny how they are so smart that they are able to distinguish what is metaphorical from what is not. Even though most of the time the more ridiculous statement is the one they take literally depending on what they are trying to tell you on any given day.
What christians are not capable of it seems is relating the time of the original writings in the bible. You know, this bible was written in parts over 2 thousand years ago, and in some cases 4 thousand. The most conservative estimates for the actual writing dates of the books in the new testament put it about about 300 AD. It wasn't even for several hundred years that the notion of a round earth was formally proposed. Even then, people were killed for expressing this belief. Killed by whom? Well who esle, christians. I mean, damn all those fools who try to tell us the world is round! Kill them all!!!!! So, of course the bibles references to a round earth is literal. It pains me to great extents when people try to claim otherwise. It is a true measure of their intelligence.
So, to anyone foolish enough to believe this nonsense, go here:
www.flat-earth.org...
They are accepting.....
Originally posted by Truth
great job jake. I think people jst will do anything they can to disprove jesus and God. I just don't get it.
Ive personally seen miracles, which is proof, by faith, to those who can believe.
Its truly amazingbut what ive learned from this internet is how much we should cherish sincerity.
peace.
Originally posted by LadyV
I don't think there is anything about a rapture in the bible......
Originally posted by jake1997
Im sure people give your words much weight
Originally posted by jake1997
Of course YOU heed his words.
You hate the bible as much as he does.
Originally posted by jake1997
Originally posted by Seapeople
Amazingly, I found many more than three seperate accounts of the earth beoing flat in the bible. Well not amazingly, but rather expected. I mean really, how were they supposed to know.
Isaiah 11:12
Revelation 7:1
Now this one is interesting because of its clear implications.
Daniel 4:11 How could one see the entire world from the top of a tree, if the world was round?
There are about 50 references to "the ends of the earth, and I will have to go digging to find them all.
There are a lot of references just like this all through the bible. Referring to the world sitting on a foundation, or pillars in two instances. You can (and christians will) claim that these statements are metephoprical. Funny how they are so smart that they are able to distinguish what is metaphorical from what is not. Even though most of the time the more ridiculous statement is the one they take literally depending on what they are trying to tell you on any given day.
What christians are not capable of it seems is relating the time of the original writings in the bible. You know, this bible was written in parts over 2 thousand years ago, and in some cases 4 thousand. The most conservative estimates for the actual writing dates of the books in the new testament put it about about 300 AD. It wasn't even for several hundred years that the notion of a round earth was formally proposed. Even then, people were killed for expressing this belief. Killed by whom? Well who esle, christians. I mean, damn all those fools who try to tell us the world is round! Kill them all!!!!! So, of course the bibles references to a round earth is literal. It pains me to great extents when people try to claim otherwise. It is a true measure of their intelligence.
So, to anyone foolish enough to believe this nonsense, go here:
www.flat-earth.org...
They are accepting.....
I believe what you see here is an exercise of ones own belief.
Go read the verses for yourself. Do they say the earth is flat?
No.
But some want to inject their own ideas into it.
in Isaiah we see the word corners.
The King James bible is an ENGLISH translation. ENGLISH people used the word corners.
H3671
כּנף
kânâph
kaw-nawf'
From H3670; an edge or extremity; specifically (of a bird or army) a wing, (of a garment or bed clothing) a flap, (of the earth) a quarter, (of a building) a pinnacle: - + bird, border, corner, end, feather [-ed], X flying, + (one an-) other, overspreading, X quarters, skirt, X sort, uttermost part, wing ([-ed]).
Its clear the bible is saying that they people will be gathered from the entire earth.
Isa 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
Isa 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
It is VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE that this prophesy is happening RIGHT NOW . The country of Israel was formed again in 1948 and jews continue to migrate back to Israel today.
God said this would happen THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO and now you see it before your very eyes.
In Revelation 7:1 we see
Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
The original is
G1137
γωνία
gōnia
go-nee'-ah
Probably akin to G1119; an angle: - corner, quarter.
Do you see the words flat earth?
Only in some peoples mind.
Now, lets look to the opposite extreme and see if the bible tells us anything more direct about this flat earth question
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing
Just like today, we know the earth floats in space .
Pagan religions all say the earth is held up on the back of some animal or person.
The bible teaches that the rapture will happen in an 'instant". This means that for some it will be day, and for others it will be night,, depending on what side of the earth you are on. (uh ohh.. I said 'side'. Does this mean the earth is square? )
Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luk 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
They dont do farming at night. This clearly assumes a round earth.
Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
The word used for circle
חוּג
chûg
khoog
From H2328; a circle: - circle, circuit, compassive
So you can post what you want and give it your anti-christian bias slant, but its clear to the reader who has integrity, that the bible teaches a round earth.
The bible teaches that the rapture will happen in an 'instant". This means that for some it will be day, and for others it will be night,, depending on what side of the earth you are on. (uh ohh.. I said 'side'. Does this mean the earth is square? )
Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luk 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
They dont do farming at night. This clearly assumes a round earth.
Jake, are you really as dumb as your post???? Now, I am not going to get into one of the definitions you posted with the word edge, and the whole spherical objects have no edges thing, but I do want to get into something else to show what level of intelect you reside on.
Has anyone ever read these passages he referred to in regards to the rapture?
Jake, you are an idiot for what you posted. I know I will get in trouble for saying that, but it is the truth. How else would you post such an unthought out pile of horse excrement?
Lets refer back to luke, and his "rapture" verses that jake so graciously provided to us hoping no-one would catch his agregious error. He must have known it since he is such a good christian. Anyone want to know what it is??? Well, lets look closer, and this is about half of a bible chapter. Isn't it awesome how christian morons take things so terribly out of context that we are actually dumber for listening to them (I.E. Jake).
Jake of course knew this though...right? Here is a hint buddy, DO NOT INTENTIONALLY LIE TO ME AND EVERYONE IN HERE AGAIN. I WILL CATCH YOU. People might take you more seriously too.
The point of what I said is this
I wasnt talking about the rapture. I was talking about the bible showing the earth being round. He chose one part of my statement and gave it HIS meaning.
He does this alot.
Read the post I quoted and then read my response. He is way off base. . . rambling away.
Jake, you are a liar, and you were caught in a lie. Now you backtrack looking like a fool trying to get out of what you said.
Yes, you were talking about the world being round, but as a typical christian, that statement is taken out of context. You wer USING THE RAPTURE TO DO SO.
The point you were trying to make was this:
The rapture will occur instantly, so how could there be references to it in the day and in the night?
Is that not EXACTLY what you were saying? You then stated a few verses from the bible that you clamed were referring to the rapture, and the verses from Luke were among them.
I busted you flat out in a lie, because I know you know the gospels. I am not foolish enough to believe you just missed it. You intentionally tried to lie to us all on several levels. First, you knowingly mislead us by making references to the rapture with unrelated verses.
Of course intelligent people would heed my words on this, even if they hate me. You are a fraud and a liar.
To everyone else, this is a serious matter. If you do not understand what I am accusing this person of, please ask me to better explain it to you. It is critical, even if you are a person of great faith, that you do not take the words Jake has said seriously.
I stand by the rapture.
But lets get back to what this was about
Are we not talking about the rapture in another thread?
Your like a little kid jumping up and down
SEE! SEE! I GOT HIM!! THE BIBLE SAYS THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!
lol
NO WAIT! THE RAPTURE ISNT REAL!! IM NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT I KNOW GOD BETTER THEN HE DOES!!!
rofl
Dude...honostly...your method of long posts and little substance and no authority is a bit boring.
I suppose it would be ok to move on to the rapture if you are reversing your previous position about the bible saying the earth is flat
What say ye?
You are a liar
You used text out of the bible to support your claim that the world was round. You did so by citing the rapture. You pulled out of the bible, in support of your round world in the bible theory, 3 verses from luke were used. You used them in the context of the rapture to support your idea.
So in other words what you are saying now is, we should believe what you said regardless of the fact that you were caught in a lie, because you were lying about something else? You really are way off base buddy.