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Originally posted by Herman
I've been seeing a lot of religious arguments lately coming to something about something being more than 6,000 years old, so the bible must have been inaccurate about it. What's with 6,000 years, and why is everyone suddenly believing that the bible says the earth is only 6,000 years old?
How Fast Can Reefs Really Grow?
By far the most contentious isse here is the rate at which reefs can grow. Studies of reef growth in the modern Pacific show that even under ideal conditions, the growth of the actual reefs is only on the order of 8-10mm a year (see below). Note that individual corals can grow a bit faster than this, but this cannot be used to estimate the growth rate of the *reef* itself, since the reef is not one giant coral, but is largely composed of billions of coral fragments that are broken by waves and cemented to the growing mass (see below).
So, assuming an average 10mm per yr growth rate, the Eniwetok Reef would require 140,000 years to grow to its present thickness. And this assumes no compaction, no destruction by storms, no temporal breaks in growth, continuous optimal growth rates, and adequate subsidence rates. All of these assumptions are entirely unreasonable, and thus any estimate based on extrapolation of optimal reef growth rates is clearly a minimum.
The Light Year: A Measure of Distance
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The distance that light travels in a year is so large that it is a useful unit of distance in astronomy:
Light Year: the distance that light travels (through a vacuum) in one year (9.46 x 10^17 cm).
The nearest star (other than the Sun) is 4.3 light years away.
Our galaxy (the Milky Way) is about 100,000 light years in diameter.
The distance to the galaxy M87 in the Virgo cluster is 50 million light years.
The distance to most distant object seen in the universe is about 18 billion light years (18 x 10^9 light years).
Originally posted by Truth
sanduleak 69 202 is irrelevant, I just read about it and the scientists made one point.
" Creationist believe that the stars were created intact for the light of the earth, however this would involve a super natural miracle "
thats the difference. We believe in miracles, evolutionist do not. Thats the whole basis of the arguments. miracles.
Why would evolution desire us to have all this beauty and good fealings and taste of food?
I just don't get what some aspects of faith (like believing in young earth creationism) have to do with Religion? Or being a good Christian for that matter? Stubborn is all it is.
originally posted by Truth
Why would evolution desire us to have all this beauty and good fealings and taste of food?
evolution is nothing, it doesn't desire for us, but our nature seems like it was made for us and for our desires.
Originally posted by Truth
I love you guys and will always pray for your souls, ...
...what I've seen is not a theory, its only seen to those who want to see it and believe.
Originally posted by Truth
I truly think I know what it is, even when you hear of miracles, you don't want to see it. you don't want there to be a God. I
Originally posted by Truth
I love you guys and will always pray for your souls, but this whole argument is truly baised on miracles. One tiny miracle disproves the biggest theory of all time.
I truly think I know what it is, even when you hear of miracles, you don't want to see it. you don't want there to be a God. I bet if he came down now out of heaven made the earth disappear as if we were standing on space,
would you still not believe?
what ive seen is not a theory, its only seen to those who want to see it and believe.
Thats how its always going to be.
Originally posted by Umbrax
I prefer to question it and find my own answers. If the evidence is solid. Then I will believe it. But believing just because someone told me do, I can't do that.
Originally posted by Herman
But didn't someone tell you about evolution? Have you actually gone to the places Darwin visited, and whitness evolution and seen the fossiles yourself? Who compiled your evidence and varified everything for you? Was it a textbook, or does Darwin finally have a competitor?