“Something is very wrong with men”

There's probably enough frozen sperm samples around to keep the population going for 1,000 years.

Too much birth control. Every so often you hear about a study showing that all that estrogen goes into the water and stays there without breaking down.

You can either rig the door on your microwave to get a 1000 watt BJ or strap similar frequencies to your waist to give the "boys" 2 watts of foreplay. It all depends how fast and hard you want it.

a reply to: loam

This is doom porn.

From your link

The report, published in late July, reviewed thousands of studies and concluded that sperm concentration had fallen by 52 percent among men in Western countries between 1973 and 2011.

This "new" report is a literature study only. In other words, they reviewed previous studies and "concluded". This is not a real measurement.

Population is dropping off because of previous "doom porn" like the population bomb, woman being unwilling to continue dedicating their lives to be bred like cattle.

Don't be so skittish and willing to jump over every "new" study. People are still having babies.

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

another perspective

globalnews.ca...

Despite the onslaught of information, there is still a ton we don’t know about the topic. The last known study (in 2011) on the prevalence of infertility in Canada acknowleged that. Researchers, who attempted to estimate the country’s infertility rate, concluded it had increased to 15.7 per cent, up from 5.4 per cent in 1984. However Canadian fertility experts Global News spoke to say there is no conclusive evidence that infertility has increased since then.

One word: PORN

Easier access to easy Porn...

This certainly does indicate a need for further study and research. I don't think everybody wears tighty- whiteys.

it's all the danged pot that the men are smoking!!!

Smoking too much pot doesn’t just chill men out, it can cause their sperm to become “more mellow and swimming in circles.”

Just a couple of joints a week could be enough to lower sperm counts by almost a third, even when accounting for other lifestyle factors, recent research shows.

nationalpost.com...

or at least that what they will try to blame when the discussions come up about it being legalized for recreational use on a national level...

that and the birth control...like someone already mentioned. but na, they will never blame all that plastic, cellphone radiation and other pollutants that we are exposed to on a daily basis.. many of which have the same effect on the reproductive system as women's birth control remnants being flushed into the sewage system..... of which I do believe that women's estrogen being expelled by the body doesn't need the use of birth control to happen!!

it's like cigarettes and the rise of asthma in the population. the cigarettes, or mainly the chemicals that are added to the cigarettes are just one of many factors contributing to the rise... and, it's contribution is such a small factor that eliminating them alone will not produce an effect that is really that noticeable unless some of the other factors are also addressed.

for those who seem to think that it's part of a global depopulation agenda... I think I should point out a few things...
first, the powers that be are more than likely white and living in western cultures.
and second... they probably all have cellphones they use, they probably all eat at least some of the same contaminated food we are, they houses, the products that they buy at the store probably have the same contamination, and they all have computers that they use often, which gives out some of these contamination when on and warmed up!!! This would be an agenda that they can't protect themselves and their own family line from. and, you would think that the powers that be would believe that they would want their own family lines to continue, and that they would believe that if the population did need to decrease, they would be more interested in reducing the population in the minority races and those third world countries with the natural resources that could make those in power much more wealthier if only the people would get out of their way and let them harvest them. depopulation in this kind of manner doesn't serve any of these purposes, matter of fact, it does quit the opposite. the wealthier and more developed a nation is, the more contaminated man made crap they buy, the more free the women are and so, the more women opting to use the birth control, opting to take a bigger part in the work force so they can have more contaminated crap.

nope, I think this is more of an ecological disaster caused by decades of stupidity and greed. they will come up with scapegoats like they did with the cigarettes. maybe they will blame the pot use as an excuse to clamp down tighter on it's use, more than likely they will place some blame on birth control and try to reduce it's use. but, they've proven with the cigarette propaganda that they will not go after the bigger culprits because that would just be too costly and quite frankly, no one would want to give up all those other culprits anyways.. they wouldn't want to admit that the western way of life is killing them!!!

a reply to: dawnstar

Great post! I'm sure we are surrounded by things on a daily basis that will eventually be our undoing. But, as you know, the economy is more important.

Chlorpropham, and all those seedless fruits seem to be pretty fishy

Nah. Global Warming is to blame. See, sperm can't live if it's too hot. Your testes can only descend so far for cooling, then those little suckers bake in the heat.

For global depopulation, the major countries in the world have conspired to poison the planet with fossil fuels and raise global temps, thus reducing sperm count, thus controlling the population. That's why they find it all over the globe.

It's a conspiracy man, a c-o-n-spiracy

youtu.be...

originally posted by: eisegesis
You can either rig the door on your microwave to get a 1000 watt BJ or strap similar frequencies to your waist to give the "boys" 2 watts of foreplay. It all depends how fast and hard you want it.

See a doctor. Please.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: loam

So this is the real life "The Children of Men" movie, where women can't get pregnant anymore.

Frightening... plastics, pesticides, chemicals, GMOs etc. are likely the culprit

And the Georgia Guidestones come to mind.

a reply to: loam

I mean, not that it affects me personally (had the snip-snip last year), but these portions of the article are pretty pertinent to consider:

Research on sperm levels has been spotty, using different methodologies and drawing from varying groups, making it difficult to know that the declines some scientists observed were real, and not a function of miscounting. Skeptics of the latest conclusions countered that the new report was a study of many studies—it could only be as good as the work from which it drew. And even if the conclusions of the meta-analysis are accurate, the average sperm count still leaves most men on the normal side of fertile.

I mean, if this is a conclusion based on a study of studies that have questions surrounding their accuracy, these results should be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism--not that the count is declining, so much, but that it is declining this drastically.

Yet fertility rates—the number of live births per woman—have drastically declined in the same countries with falling sperm counts. That includes the U.S., where fertility rates hit a record low this year, and where women are no longer bearing enough children to replace the existing population. Women need to average roughly 2.1 children—enough to replace themselves and their partner, with a spare bit to offset kids who don’t survive to reproductive age—to keep a country’s population stable through birth alone. The U.S. is at 1.8 and dependent on continued immigration to keep the population growing.

Whoa, hold on--who says that we need to keep the population growing? With 7.5 Billion people in this world, I find it very difficult to equate a slowly declining population of human in the U.S. since 2007 with a concern that the human population is in the crosshairs of disappearance. Honestly, our world could stand a few less people in it, although I'm not advocating culling the population by artificial means at all.

A 2013 study of American college students found that men who exercised more than 15 hours a week had sperm counts 73 percent higher than men who exercised less than five hours a week. And men who watched 20 or more hours of TV a week had much lower sperm counts than those who watched little to no TV. Stress is also a risk factor, as is alcohol use, which is on an upswing in the U.S., and drug use, which is increasing thanks to the opioid epidemic.

Out of everything considered for being the main driving factor, I vote this, 100%. I think that, while technology and a much more sedentary lifestyle that it allows is great for comfortable living, I think that it will end up having a dramatically negative net effect on humans in the long-term. If we can't realize that sitting all day, eating fast food, and staring at screens to entertain ourselves is not a good fit for the body that humans have evolved to have, we're doomed to waste these bodies. Smoking, drug use, alcohol use, and all of these lower sperm count, and while the average sperm level (according to this study of studies) is still in the normal range by 7-million sperm, it won't take long to drop it lower if we keep trending in the same direction.

But, hey, maybe this is just how the balance of nature works, and when a species (at the moment, we humans) starts living too unnatural a lifestyle, the balance gets disrupted and the effects of that lifestyle start yielding the consequences. Study after study after study indicates that living in concrete jungles under artificial lights working sedentary jobs and having electronic signals flying through the air everywhere that we go is taking its toll on the human body, along with all of the other negatively-impacting lifestyle choices that humans have created over the past centuries.

Could it be that nature is starting to take aim at those living these types of lifestyles and telling them that the species would prefer not to have them procreate anymore? I know that it sounds like a slightly nutty question, but every intelligent human being knows that living lives filled with excesses of the wrong things and deficiencies of the proper things will eventually take its toll, and we may be seeing that through sperm count.

But, maybe I'm just talking out of my ass, too, and nothing I said makes any factual sense--just my two cents on the issue.

BTW, that was a long article, so I figured that my comment should match. If you read this far, you deserve a Scooby Snack.

ETA: I'm not discounting the discussion about endocrine disruptors, but I feel that the lethargy and apathy towards a healthy lifestyle that permeates much of the globe is the main driver and is the easiest to personally affect in a positive way without much outside help.

a reply to: angeldoll

they have found plastics to be contributing to effects seen in amphibians and reptiles reproductive systems. my guess is that if we wanted to solve the male infertility problem, we would have to get rid of most of the plastics that we are using today.
can you imagine a life without plastic??? I kind of remember the time before plastics were so common, we did manage. I ended up having to buy a new washer and dryer last year when my old ones finally gave up the ghost.
the old ones weight a ton it seems... these new ones, I can easily push around and two guys can easily move them out of the house if they need to be moved. they are mostly plastic. I imagine they wouldn't have been in my price range if had to find another material to use instead of that plastic, making them much more expensive.

nope, they aren't gonna to what is needed to solve this problem I don't think.

I thought radiation from the entire world we lived in, the toxins we ingest, the poisons we live within, was good for sperm count?

Crazy world we live in, you learn something knew every dai.

a reply to: loam

Praise Big Pharma!

There are a number of pollutants and contaminants in our drinking water supply that we are all too aware of here at Aquatec. We make it a priority to keep up to date with reports on potential pollutants making their way into the UK water supply to ensure that our whole house filtration units capture all harmful contaminants to deliver you pure water with its numerous benefits.
An alarming report based on official research on the effects of oestrogen in rivers on fish revealed that around half of the male fish in the UK’s lowland rivers had changed sex. It is understood that a synthetic oestrogen hormone was behind these alarming changes. The implication is that people in the UK could be consuming oestrogen in tap water that has potentially damaging affects on male fertility.

Oestrogen in Water

#Feminism
#GottaLoveThePill

originally posted by: eisegesis
You can either rig the door on your microwave to get a 1000 watt BJ or strap similar frequencies to your waist to give the "boys" 2 watts of foreplay. It all depends how fast and hard you want it.

life is full of choices eh

Anyone ever considered that this could be due to more men having a lot more sex or the fact that pornography and masturbation is a big thing now?

a reply to: Kuroodo

Yes, white female christians do that all the time. But it's probably related to the sexual freedom of women instead, at least that's what scientific findings suggest. Funny story though.