Chapter Numbers and Verses are Inspired of the LORD.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Here we go, into the land of fallacies ....

I hold a Post graduate degrees and diplomas. I've proven that I can study, I work in the sciences, I apply research each and every day. As evidenced by my not dying each time I use phosgene, Chlorine gas, or azides.

You are applying your own faith, as if it is the only answer. While Christians seek salvation, through their messiah (he's not mine thanks, don't come to the door again.). My path seeks knowledge through inspiration (Imbas).

You've once again implied my deities are not real. Yet shown that you loose the plot when I suggest your deity is not absolute, or real (something I've not done, but you've thought I have).

Quite simply, you don't get it.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

So only "your god" (I put in " because it's been shown your don't believe in a god and aren't a Christian) is real and everyone else's isn't?

Let's see your evidence for that.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Hope you have a while to wait.

I accept his deity is real, just not above all. I am pretty sure An Morrigan could take him in a fight

a reply to: TerryDon79

My OP was speaking of the deaths of men in conjunction with the chapter and verse number being five. I don't want to insult you again so I will hold my thoughts on why you can't understand the context.

I am so surprised you really are a believer in the word of God sticking up for the meaning of the"coats of skins". Better watch out someone might call you a fundementalist

There is no death mentioned in

enesis 3:21 ¶ Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

This is all it says the Lord God did make. Go back to Genesis one and see what else God made without killing anything. I am sure God could make some coats of skins without killing any animal. Unless you are leaning into some doctrinal truth found in the NT?

But as I said we were not talking about animals, for the spirit of an animal returns to the earth while the spirit of a man returns unto his maker see Eccl 3:21 in the preserved word of God as found in the AV. We were talking about the death of Adam and Ananias and his wife Sapphira, they are saved but life cut short for lying.

Again don't take my word seek the truths of the Preserved word on a Sabbatical away from men. Go at it with a pure and true heart and let the Holy Ghost teach you. As it says he does in1Cor 2.

a reply to: Noinden

I'd be willing to wait for conclusive evidence. I've waited this long

I just detest the "my god (or gods), that I have no proof of, is more real than your god (or gods), that I have no proof of" argument. It's the same as "my imaginary starfish is more real than your imaginary starfish". No offence to you meant, btw.

And, as I've said before, various bibles say animal skins in Gen 3.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Well it is after you edited it because you got called out by me and others.

Changing the wording of your OP because it didn't fit, is a tad dishonest.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Once again, quoting and requoting, scripture is meaningless.

I'll quote you something from my religion, in English, since it offends you to not do so It means something to me, and thousands of others. None the less, it is simply words...



Peace to (as high as) the sky

sky to the earth
earth beneath sky
strength in everyone
a cup very full
a fullness of honey
honour enough
summer in winter
spear supported by shield
shields supported by forts
forts fierce eager for battle
"sod" (fleece) from sheep
woods grown with antler-tips (full of stags)
forever destructions have departed
mast (nuts) on trees
a branch drooping-down
drooping from growth
wealth for a son
a son very learned
neck of bull (in yoke)
a bull from a song
knots in woods (i.e. scrap-wood)
wood for a fire
fire as wanted
palisades new and bright
salmon their victory
the Boyne (i.e. Newgrange) their hostel
hostel with an excellence of length (size)
blue (new) growth after spring
(in) autumn horses increase
the land held secure
land recounted with excellence of word
Be might to the eternal much excellent woods
peace to (as high as the) sky
be (this) nine times eternal

a reply to: TerryDon79

The argument of being on the "one true way" is a known fallacy (no true Scotsman). It also bespeaks a weak and fragile ego. I am pretty sure their god is not as weak as they make him out to be. An "alpha male" does not need to prove it. Only the pretender does.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Nah, I believe in his god. I believe in them all. I just follow a select few, none are supreme. I feel that the bible is a load of dingoes kidneys, it was put together by committee, from conflicting sources, then translated via multiple langues to multiple languages, edited a lot, and here we are today, people saying this document is the proof of the eternal word of deity.... meh

a reply to: Noinden

I have stated before that he's just here to make Christians look bad. He's definitely a pretender. It's no more obvious than his last few threads.

He also doesn't know his bible very well. Why else would he need to change his posts when he's been proven wrong?

a reply to: TerryDon79

I know a great many Christians like him. They are convinced they are doing the work of God. Many other Christians facepalm at their antics.

Now remember he had a 3000 page thesis for his Doctor of Theology .... you know. So at about 500 words per page (assuming no graphics) that is one million words.

Never mind reputable universities put an upper limit on a thesis page count as well as a lower one. But at 1 million words, that is longer than most versions of the damned Bible! IF those million words is anything like this set of posts of his ... they may have thrown the doctorate at him and said "go away"

a reply to: Noinden

I don't. Only 1 Christian I knew that was really out there was one my ex gf had grown up with. She was nice enough to me though. Only time we got into anything was when she stated the 2004 tsunami was god punishing tourists. It lasted less than 10 minutes before she said she had her beliefs and nothing would change her mind.

All the other ice known or still know, don't try and tell me I'm wrong. They know it's based on personal faith, not on facts. Unlike some people we know

a reply to: TerryDon79

To be honest I think (ok feel) that being a Pagan has attracted certain types to me, I don't really flag it (I wear a torc not a pentacle, as that has meaning to me, while the pentacle does not), but I do not hide it.

I was once sitting outside the supermarket, waiting on a taxi to take groceries to my grandmother (I was in University, and had no car), and this guy approached me. He was "do you have a moment?". I knew what it was and politely was "no thanks". He would not feck off. In the end, some police (who I trained combatives with) were walking by, saw I was getting close loosing my temper. They escorted him off. Later that night (it was a Friday) he was in the middle of town (a bit called the Octagon, which will ID the city) proselytizing to people. Now Kiwi's hate that nonsense. Then on the Monday he was outside the Family planning clinic, calling women sluts and murderers for going in... again the police removed him.

He was not a good ambassador for his god, or fellow Christians.

Thats one example. In the USA, oh dear gods, the groups that "invaded" pagan events. My favourite I heard of is this. Kirk Cameron is a loon (and horrid actor), but the druids "attacked him with branches", thinking we worship trees Idiot (that is from my old Druid organization I am leaving, due to it being a poor fit now).

oh my the insults still pour out even after I humbled myself to you.

You know not my heart nor my life. You are wrong and God is true.

I give up your only reason for posting is to insult, and antagonize to that it is evident.

You have not done anything to prove anything. 600 million years from now proves nothing. But what happens many times somewhere on this planet is proof that Eclipses are mathematically calculative and have been for 5,000 years. That's right 3,000 years before Christ first coming, tribes in South America, and in China were calculating eclipses to the day and hour.

Remember how everyone gave such approval of the Aztec calendar and the end of the world would happen in Dec 2012 the reason it ended there was because they could not calculate beyond that time not because the end of the world was coming. The Chinese didn't fair much better.

The preserved Bible tells us that the heavens were divided according to the number of the tribes of Israel. 12 tribes, twelve divisions of the heaven, 12 months. The Lion not Leo is the tribe of Judah the enemy of our souls would do nothing more than counterfeit everything God has established is to deceive people from believing in God.

people will read a horoscope ion hopes of knowing what is to come and I could tell you this from the Bible. Trials and troubles abound to all men, eventually death over takes him and he goes the way of all men. But Christ came to set men free from death. you choose no one chooses for you.

The whole universe is corrupted and so are our calculations math, weather, and any other thing which involves calculations.

a reply to: Noinden

That was a pretty funny read. It's on par with infiltrating a chrstian church by just going and sitting in one on a Sunday lol.

Only bother I get from religious folk now is the occasional JW knocking on my door trying to fill their weekly quota and getting preached at on here and getting told I need to convert or I'll go to a place I don't believe exists lol.

It's really funny watching Christian criticise other religions too. "Scientology? They believe in aliens!" "Other god or gods? They're made up!". Yeah. Christians believe in a benevolent zombie who's going to save them lol.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

It's called mathematics. The thing that we use in so many aspects of our daily lives, people forget about it.

Yet you seem to think it proves a sky daddy? Oh, wait. You said it didn't. Now you're back to saying it does. Make up your mind.

a reply to: TerryDon79

I had some hope you would really be interested in truth but evidence is in your words you are not interested in truth.

But you are no Atheist that you have made abundantly clear. You have already chosen your side.

At least you have made a choice some die not ever making it or even knowing it because they listen to people like you.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Oh yes. I'm a true Christian, CJ. So much so that I don't have a belief in any of the deities.

All you're doing is showing people your true colours: hate, jealousy, ignorance, lack of understanding of English, lack of understanding of your bible and an abundance of other things.

Keep it up man. You, and people like you, are on the right track to converting the rest of the world to being atheist or agnostic.

Amen.

Was waiting for someone to notice this.

The Father sends the comforter in to people and through them. It is his ruach elohim, his power (yours is the power...). And it is one with the Father and the son, our lord.

I've read most religious texts from most civilizations. This is the one that is beyond everything and not by a mile. By endless miles. And it does not lie in it's wisdom.

Not on iota, not one dot will not be eroded from it. Whatever the evil principalities try.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

You "humbled yourself"? You might wish to have someone explaing humble as a concept too you neighbour.
While they are at it. This preserved bible of yours, is like the unicorn. Never seen

Show that calculations, mathematics, etc are corrupted.

My ancestors were free before JC the younger (Caesar being the elder) might have gotten nailed to a cross. All I am seeing from your post is some very gnosis filled dreams, as opposed to a coherent theology...