High School makes at least 75 students take blood and urine tests over 1 empty beer can

a reply to: infolurker

The students were pulled from the stands and their parents were called so they could be screened for alcohol. Students who refused the screening faced as much as five days of suspension under school district policy.

That's some scary stuff.

Fano wrote on the district’s website: “As educators, we are charged with enforcing policy. The law requires that we send students out to be tested when it appears that they may be under the influence of drugs or alcohol.”

The law requires? So, what exactly is this law and what does it cover and allow? Those students "exhibiting signs of being under the influence," whatever that means, and if so, what was that behavior, or were they just being rowdy kids at a freakin ball game? I understand this is a school event on school property and all, but something doesn't make sense here.

75 students. Not a handful, not a dozen, but 75. Crazy.

It's all about the conditioning.

a reply to: 3daysgone

Too bad it was in a county that Trump won, huh? Guess that blows your theory out of the water.

a reply to: infolurker

Well it doesn't say in the article, but I have a feeling it was a 'lite' beer, maybe even a St. Pauli or O'Doul's.

Cuff em all, the swine!

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: MysticPearl
WTF is wrong with this country.

I got caught drinking some booze with a few friends on campus in the late 90's and the guy basically just took it from us and said don't do it here again.

What next, calling out the fire department and SWAT team if a student lights a cigarette on campus?

Buhahaha, so glad HS is over with. i would have been arrested or had the hose my cigerette. lol

originally posted by: Sheye
Sounds like admin with authoritarian issues. That is just sheer overkill.

Do they even have the right to do that ?

Nope.

All they can do is ask your parents but they have the right to decline. For all they know, it was the local bum who threw it over the fence, like wtf.

a reply to: infolurker

"The law requires that we send students out to be tested when it appears that they may be under the influence of drugs or alcohol"

so 75 students appeared to be "under the influence" from a single beer?

a reply to: acackohfcc

That was my first thought. Did the school perform sobriety tests to weed out the students that didn't appear to be under the influence?

Madness...over a single empty can of beer. Not an empty 12 pack or bottle of liquor.

Could have been a parent that dropped it.

a reply to: infolurker
Supposing a group of students began taking an empty beer can to EVERY sports event, to be dropped casually in a place where it could be found. How long would it take before the authorities got tired of over-reacting?

sounds like 70 lawsuits.

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

What if they are slowly conditioning students into accepting a future totalitarian state?

It's been happening at a rapid pace ever since Operation Paperclip.

This is nothing new, just an escalation.

This article discusses the policy in place regarding payment.

If the test comes back positive, the parent is responsible for paying. Negative tests must be paid for by the board of education, the district's policy states.

Wow. Most school districts are fighting desperately for ways to save money and for ways to replace ancient textbooks and supplies and these guys apparently have money to pay for 70+ unnecessary tests. Must be nice to have that kind of cash.

ETA: Here is the letter from the Superintendent confirming that everyone who tested negative will be reimbursed by the school board.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: infolurker
Supposing a group of students began taking an empty beer can to EVERY sports event, to be dropped casually in a place where it could be found. How long would it take before the authorities got tired of over-reacting?

how long would it take for the innocent students to start grassing on the perpetrators?

OMG, [true story]. Picture the scene, 1984 W-Germany:

We had as our project 'Beer brewing'. The whole week we stood there stirring our big pots full of hops and malt until on Thursday we eventually got to visit the local Brewery.
It was before 2p.m that I had consumed 6 glasses of beer and 3 rolls with raw mince and onion, all free of charge.
I tried to kiss my biology teacher, and was sent home when I missed my chair trying to sit down.
Don't know how I got home, but I did. Half an hour later my best mate turned up at our flat and literally fell into the hallway saying that he couldn't 'find his home', then he puked everywhere.
His parents came to pick him up and he sent a bunch of flowers to my mum as a thank you.

On Friday nobody turned up for the bottling up of our self brewed beer apart from one pupil [he didn't drink].
We all passed our project.

I think that the US school in this thread would have a stroke and several heart attacks reading my account...

Nobody died and it's one of my favourite anecdotes. Oh the fun we had.

Who paid for it? Was it a dip test, or an actual lab test? The cost of a dip test is about $20/person. Lab tests are in the $100 range.

If the school paid for it, i would hope that they don't also make parents pay for classroom supplies (not school supplies...classroom supplies)

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Who paid for it? Was it a dip test, or an actual lab test? The cost of a dip test is about $20/person. Lab tests are in the $100 range.

If the school paid for it, i would hope that they don't also make parents pay for classroom supplies (not school supplies...classroom supplies)

Don't forget, they sent the kids to various Emergency Rooms..... that sign in charge alone is in the hundreds of dollars for each kid before testing is even done.

a reply to: infolurker

Were I a taxpayer that funded that district, i'd be looking for some explanation for that expense. If you take a conservative $250 ER fee plus a conservative $100 for lab (im betting you can double that to get a more accurate picture based on my experience with medical billing), that comes out to a total price of at least $25k.

For context, assuming a meal price of $2.66/meal (using the national average, not adjusting for federal subsidies that equal $2.47/meal), you could feed 55 students for the entire school year (assuming the school year includes 180 days, which is close to the national average depending on type of school). Include the Federal Subsidy, and that number is more like 768 kids.

originally posted by: Regnor
a reply to: 3daysgone

Too bad it was in a county that Trump won, huh? Guess that blows your theory out of the water.

Of course not. That is why they are being punished.

I am not the least bit interested in who pays for it.

What I want to know is - what law says that they have the right to do this? I want to read the letter of the law. If one of my kids were caught up in this, I would NOT have given my permission for them to be tested and would have sued the school district if they tried to suspend them for it.

I WANT TO SEE THE EXACT LAW.

These parents are teaching their kids to just go along, even when it makes no sense. This situation is all on the parents!

originally posted by: MysticPearl
WTF is wrong with this country.

I got caught drinking some booze with a few friends on campus in the late 90's and the guy basically just took it from us and said don't do it here again.

Wish I could say the same. I'm the reason they started implementing locker checks at my school. They knew I was messed up but they could never catch me at it.

Even with their stupid locker checks.

Here is what I found out about the power of a school board. My state has the right to education in the state constitution. My son was bullied in high school, verbally at first which he ignored, then physically. He did not ignore that and defended himself, quite well I might add. Anyway the school sent a letter saying he can either sign a paper signing away his constitutional due process rights and take a probation, or he could be expelled immediately. I saw it for what it was, and filed for an injunction because the judicial power of the state was constitutionally placed in the courts, not the school board, so the school board has no judicial power to alter any rights. I was right, it was a bluff and I'd caught them in their game of fraud. They withdrew the demand, let my boy back and paid my filing fee. Don't let anyone bully you into BS! a reply to: Iamonlyhuman