What do you think the Internet will be like 10 years from now?

a reply to: Hecate666


Well I am not as dark as you about it all in terms of expectation and intent. I don't want all that crap. I am just into positive stuff generally. I remember all the crap getting in my way and hating a lot of the verbal and image behavior I witnessed. I remember trojans and viruses, , too, all the scammers, the ridiculous dial up modem speeds where I could wait a day for a 5mb mp3. I remember how crap Cubase was in comparison to now. Man, I have a huge studio at my fingertips now I never dreamed possible even fifteen years ago.

I'm not subversive. I am in your face honest, on the surface. I am not against the poor or the rich. I am for the poor and the rich. I love and respect the Rothschilds for all the benefits that investors like them have been able to bring to the West, and now the rest of the world. I make Ghetto music thanks to the innovations of people like Bill Gates. I am typing here and communicating with you because of Bill Gates. I give honour and credit where it is due.

The internet you remember to me is like juvenile CB Radio, Hecate 666. It was remedial by today's standards. It yet requires evolution because it is still a social concern to many. I'm not the one to be doing all that. I am very mild in my use of the internet.

a reply to: Revolution9

Being outspoken is your right. Things are being forced, i can see that, as can you. Whenevever there's a shift in power, there's always chaos first, and as much as i hate to admit it, it's coming swiftly. Not just change but forced change.

In 2030 The Internet will not resemble what we see here now. If i'm here I doubt i'll be on it, i'd rather live in a cave than dwell under the shadow of the abyss.

I think more than just internet we will have interactive virtual sex. People will die from playing 24/7 and virtual reality will be the problem destroying civilization.

Earlier this year I also predicted a light hurricane season, so who knows.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Human Nature will most assuredly always be our demise, undoubtably. Youre so right.

a reply to: Justso

I don't know about removing anonymity. China's been working on a "Real Name" policy for the last several years with exactly that reasoning. I've seen conflicting reports about it, but I don't think I like the idea of being forced to log in w/my real ID on every website I browse or participate in.

People think that govt is overbearing now, but just imagine if each political party had all of the details of your online activity. I don't just mean cookies & simple tracking info like IP addresses. I'm talking about all of your online activity being linked to your real name & social security number, with the threat of legal consequences if you falsify that info. After all, the law would have to have "teeth" in order to force everyone to comply with it.

At least now we can browse anonymously by going to public wifi spots and by using public computers at libraries, colleges, etc. But with forced identification of users, I'd expect identity theft cases to skyrocket.

a reply to: teapot

Yes and the easier they make things for us, the more difficult things become. We can at this point, only hope for the best. And i truly hope the best comes to our protection. We may need it one day.

originally posted by: mericks74
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double post

originally posted by: mericks74
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you do that a lot.

a reply to: jeep3r

Freudian slips happen.

I saw nothing... NOTHING!

a reply to: Plotus

I guess i'll be forced to create an entire world just for you and all virtual sex addicts then...

haha.. dont worry i'll make it habitable for you.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
But with forced identification of users, I'd expect identity theft cases to skyrocket.

Also a hugely lucrative new market for 'sockpeople', i.e., datasets that establish a fake human for users to hide behind. (These wouldn't hold up to much inspection, but by the time anyone got round to looking at them they would have already served their purposes).

The other thing is that all this data being held centrally would be an enormous honey-pot to hackers.

But really, this sort of forced identification would be utterly impossible to enforce without a uniform global convention or stronger. If US citizens were required to give ID to access websites, their custom would soon migrate to websites based in other jurisdictions, where ID wasn't demanded. An altogether more likely phenomenon, IMHO, would be the increasing specialisation of law enforcement in dealing with online crime: why let a crisis go to waste?

People will be so interconnected with the internet in 10 years, even less, that it will be more life than real life. Sure, there will be heretics, who still read paper things, listen to old records, but they will not be noticed. I can imagine VR taking more and more of our souls, where we live in it almost 24 hours a day. We are almost to that extent now with mobile devices. Everyone staring at a screen for talking to people, exploring ideas, finding information, listening to music, playing games, navigating the roads in front of them.. You can ask your gadget or computer English language questions and get almost life like replies. That will never go away.

But to be confined to your VR space, with the laws set by companies and regulated by CEOs instead of natural rights, where a company dictates your allowed and disallowed activity, thoughts, words... it will be like a prison, but one we enter into freely, not realising what we give up.

Not all doom and gloom, it will be something to behold. But rest assured, every single advance that comes from an inspired mind, will be monetised and we will eat it up, till we're so reliant on it, we cannot disobey the "new world order"... google already is doing this. one day they will remove the ogle from their name, and replace it with a capitol D.

In some ways I am reminded of this episode of Black Mirror.

a reply to: Justso

It worries me that anyone shares your sentiment. Especially on ATS. There are SO many reasons to keep anonymity online. Not just because of bullying (quit being a wuss) but because voicing your actual opinion on something nowadays can lead to actual violence and loss of employment.

you never know who is reading or writing anything and that's dangerous.

How so (genuinely curious)? To me it seems less dangerous. People on the internet are idiots. There are so many nutjobs running around right now that feel violence and even murder are justified if someone has a different point of view.

I'd rather people that are timid, candyassed or otherwise fragile stick to Facebook and let those of us who value freedom of speech and opposing viewpoints continue to discuss things with our anonymity intact. No one is forcing you to interact with anonymous people. So stick to what you're comfortable with.

Now if someone is making threats or inciting violence, of course the proper authorities should take action. We don't need Joe Citizen taking action, businesses firing people for speaking their mind openly, or having people terrified of expressing an unpopular opinion. I''l give you an example, I think BLM is a terrible group (if perhaps initially well intentioned). Now if I say that and everyone knows I said it, I could get fired from my job, harassed, assaulted whatever. I don't even need to say anything mean about the group, just that I don't agree with their tactics and someone could label me a neo nazi or put me on a list of BLM enemies.

Should we start forcing people who review products on Amazon to have their info easily accessible? Someone who complains about a business on Yelp? Letters to the editor posted along with a photo, address and name?

I hate seeing people get aggressively bullied online, especially kids. There's a big difference between someone who knows someone in the real world and someone who just knows someones online handle bullying.

There's no telling what someone is going to get offended by. There's no telling the kind of bullcrap witch hunt may ensue. There's no telling if people are going to post your picture all over the place, say you're a terrible person and maybe drop your address so people can "write you letters".

What about victims of rape, violence or stalking that want a place to vent where they can't be identified by their abuser?

The authorities are going to be able to track down the worst offenders already. Leave law enforcement to law enforcement. Shaming people publicly that don't want to go public is a sad tactic.

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OP, I think it's going to be different, but I'm having a difficult time imagining exactly how. I'm very worried that the poster I responded to may get their wish.

I bought a new Apple TV today. I really didn't think even a few years ago I would be able to press a button, talk to my remote and have it play whatever I want, TV, Movies, Music. If you told me I could do that when I was 10 I wouldn't have believed you.

I think things like Google are only going to get "smarter". Like to a weird place.

The trend right now seems to be integrating everything. My TV talks to my phone, my phone controls my lights, I can see my security cameras on my phone or laptop. I could easily live comfortably ordering things online. I think there is going to be a HUGE amount of integration in the future. We laugh at the fridge that can order you milk when it gets low since it's kind of a pain in the ass, but I see that getting worked out. You can already have basic food staples and sundries delivered, only problem is you have to REALLY know your routine. It would not surprise me (and I know it sounds like a joke) if pretty soon there was a toilet paper dispenser that counted revolutions, got an average and ordered more when you were getting low.

I don't think it's going to look visually all that different unless there are some really crazy advances in certain areas. Not much more you can do (I've said that before). You've got text, you've got pictures, you've got movies. Not really much more you can do there. I think navigation may change. Back in my day, track pads were terrible. Now I can use gestures on the thing to go back, forward, whatever. I have a suspicion that there's going to be a very neat new way to interact with technology. I see the QWERTY standard changing, but not entirely sure what to. ESPECIALLY with mobile devices. I know there are a few apps that let you do something similar, but they aren't perfect, and they aren't well adopted yet.

I'm hoping ads get less obnoxious, that sites realize autoplay ads and movies are driving people away in droves, and that I'm far more likely to buy your product if you give me a head nod and say "I know you hate ads, so this one is only 5 seconds".

Let's all hope ATS gets some help. It's terrible right now, and I don't think the owners even post here anymore.

a reply to: badw0lf

I can't watch this in it's entirety. But i will say that if you take a look at history, nothing ever happened without a fight. And neither will this.

Rome Fell. And every civilization before it.

What makes you think this civilization won't? People are determined, and stubborn. And i'm so glad that they are because if they weren't, we wouldn't have a chance in hell of ever fighting this thing they're pushing in the guise of a humane society in order to create a Utopian Society hell bent on Nanny Control.

a reply to: Sapphire



Google has hardly changed since 2000 and even before.



Cubase then



Cubase now



Original NYT front page web.

See, not so different. Better graphics, lots more of, streamlined. I guess whatever ways it has changed will be the ways it continues to change.

a reply to: Revolution9

I don't believe it, MSN propaganda and brainwashing are in control.They only show us what they want us to see. I remember ....

I remember using google back before 2000 and it's damn well not the same as it is now, i don't care what propoganda theyre pushing to 'prove' overwise. I'm not buying it.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

China's been working on a "Real Name" policy for the last several years with exactly that reasoning. I've seen conflicting reports about it, but I don't think I like the idea of being forced to log in w/my real ID on every website I browse or participate in.

That's where it will go. Rolled out by Five-Eyes nations to protect us all from terrorists and fringe hate groups. Other nations will fall in line through compliance until it's almost the standard. Many corporations will favour it as well because of the detailed data it'll offer. Apple, Amazon, Google, ISPs...we're halfway there.

China's more honest about it and their social scoring scheme is out in the open as well. Our social scoring is more subtle and probably equally effective in the long, long term. It all promises homogeneity and conformity, but I also see human nature getting in the way and being resistant. Panopticon ftw.

originally posted by: Sapphire
a reply to: badw0lf

I can't watch this in it's entirety. But i will say that if you take a look at history, nothing ever happened without a fight. And neither will this.

Rome Fell. And every civilization before it.

What makes you think this civilization won't? People are determined, and stubborn. And i'm so glad that they are because if they weren't, we wouldn't have a chance in hell of ever fighting this thing they're pushing in the guise of a humane society in order to create a Utopian Society hell bent on Nanny Control.

I really like the attitude you have because you are the spirit that helps to keep it free. Yet, we need innovators, too. Consider the possibility that humans might actually NEED authority to function properly?

Obesity, laziness and over use of cars, horrendous psychiatric problems, violence, sex crimes, race hatred, civil war, drug abuse, genocide, every this which way and that side: Would you feel secure in a chaos of anarchy? Would you not be at the mercy of your fellow human? I know I would.

I don't believe in people power. I know the wickedness. People can be so brutal and chaos is not the answer. I am a realist. Yet, I am so glad that your spirit is there. It is required. Whenever my toes are trodden on I react the same. We must all fight a little to maintain our personal space.

It's a good question, but when I hear it asked I always think there should be an addendum. What will the internet be in x years time, and what will it's effect be?

a reply to: Sapphire

We're being given ice cream, no one will fight against that, even if it means giving up our identity, habits, personal information, routines..

This is not the same as an empire changing society. This is giving society the perception of changing itself. Behind the scenes are the money makers.

Android, given to us for free. But google knows it makes money using us as a commodity, and the more entwined with their services, of which they are taking over in leaps and bounds, the less we have to ignore it. Kids glued to their phones, tablets, to them, this is nothing more than the status quo. Every new implementation of a technology is embraced.

You don't need to fight against something you adopt and embrace. You don't even know how much control it has over you, till it is taken away by some unseen circumstance.

Facebook, the entire google entity, makes microsoft look like the ugly animal at the zoo everyone just walks past these days, when they were once called a monopoly in the PC business.

Lure us in with shiny things, make us reliant on it, turn us into revenue raising consumer identities, and if we look back and turn away, we miss all the shiny things, and can't go without it.

We as adults and those of us like me, who still remember black and white televisions and didn't even have a land line phone, may not see it completely now, but 20 year olds in 10 years time, won't even know a different way to live.

ps; if you get chance, do watch that black mirror episode. it's a bleaker outlook of the future than I envisage, but thought provoking regardless