UFO hovers over LA, helicopter starts circling it.

a reply to: theruthlessone

I saw one in Lincolnshire about ten years ago. You/we are not alone.

a reply to: makalit

Yes, I felt the same way when I saw one. I felt the distinct feeling that it was watching us. I remember feeling watched before I even spotted it.

@AnkhMorpork

in your avata background image, attached for guests,

There is at minimum 1 life form in each of those galaxies. Given the chance.

Then you stop questioning why there is meaningless empty space. We have beings on planets experiencing life, and that space is neccesarry to allow it to even happen. What we have is existence of god, intentional placement which is the only one of trillions that could host any life forms. The only one that could, we have. We have the creator who planned this out perfectly and exactly. Couldn't have it any other way. This is what god is. That space is needed to host those beings in their own worlds. There is billions of life forms.

a reply to: makalit

Why does there HAVE TO BE other intelligent life in the universe?

a reply to: markymint

The fighter jets are birds, but otherwise good job!

So excited to see some decent UFO footage and discussion again on ATS!!

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: InterstellarSloth

Yes, simple explanation. It's a balloon.

Note, you can see balloon designs, like a cluster of drawn ones, and what looks like a message across the bottom. I don't know what's mysterious about that. The helicopter is probably a regular thing, and clearly farther away than the "UFO". Either they released the balloon, to make a fake UFO video, or they are somewhat gullible.

So they are gullible because they want to get a closer look at something that is floating in the sky? Makes sense...

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: makalit

Why does there HAVE TO BE other intelligent life in the universe?

Because there is, I saw them. I am in touch with higher know-how.

I think you mean it the other way, similar to a child asking, 'why do dogs have to hunt rabbits?', in that kind of question.
Because god is blanketing everything in the deepest heart.

originally posted by: charlyv
Agree, however a balloon of helium that size, would go out of sight if left to the will of the atmosphere and gravity. Then, it would probably explode.

How do you know what was inside the (possible) balloon?

Addendum: Even if it was weight balanced for that altitude, it would bob up and down and swing slightly in eddy currents. Then also, it would have taken a long time for it to reach that altitude.

Well, we don't know for how long it was there before the guy started filming, so it could have been there for seconds or hours.
Also, the apparent change in altitude we see happens when the Sun starts to get higher in the sky, so it's possible that the change in altitude of the object was a consequence of the sunlight being stronger and heating it, making it go higher.

The only way it could be a balloon is with some other propulsion that can counteract what is always some kind of turbulence in the atmosphere. IMO

Weight and size counteract small turbulences.

a reply to: InterstellarSloth


I would like to know what the helicopter took for pictures.

deary me, the chap who took the video is getting hammered by nonsense bickering and insults in the comments section(s). that kind of negative attention is one reason many such witnesses wouldn't go public with unusual footage - rather than people just watching the video, it quickly devolves to crude arguments about which ufo channel is 'faker' than the other, or how the original uploader is some kind of con-man etc. sheesh!

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
Precisely, it can only be either a hoax or something from out of this world.

I disagree with the word "hoax", as it implies that it was made to fool other people.
But I agree with "it can be either from this world or from out of this world".

So we rule him out.

We also have two videos from other people, in case you haven't noticed.

Which leaves us with another hoaxer across the city who's managed to build and fly this thing, as a stationary balloon creation (as a sphere, but which some strange attachment/dark area).

It's not stationary, only slow moving.

To say simply - we just don't know what it is and to assign some sort of indeterminate value isn't a reasonable scientific proposition. It's there. It's a thing. And it's either a hoax, or a craft of some kind, most likely of ET origin.. since black projects don't fly their hardware over major US suburbs just for S&G's.

How can you be sure that black projects don't fly over major US suburbs? Depending on what they want with the project, flying it over an US suburb could be part of the whole idea.

To make it clear, I agree that we should take a scientific approach to any investigation, but for that we should accept all possibilities and not just the ones we like the most, so I am admitting as possible, ordered by the most likely to the less likely:
1 - balloon (we know they exist and can behave like that);
2 - some kind of unusual drone (we know they exist and they can behave like that);
3 - part of a black project;
4 - an unknown terrestrial life form;
5 - an extraterrestrial craft;

There may be other possibilities I didn't think about, but I accept suggestions.

a reply to: RoScoLaz5

Yes, as it looks like the uploader wants money for his videos to be published by other channels people are attacking him, even saying that he doesn't how the copyright for his videos. There was even an ignorant person that said that he needed to register the video to claim copyright and pointed him to a site that says exactly the opposite.

a reply to: ArMaP

yes it's all a bit unseemly.

a reply to: ArMaP

Always like your approach.

When I first joined years ago I wanted to believe they were all somehow from ET origins, but the fact remains our senses can be deceived, on every level, so it's wise to not jump to conclusions.

Even if we have directed face to face contact, that is televised it will still be prudent to question everything.

a reply to: InterstellarSloth

Anyone able to track which helicopter was hovering? Flightradar data? Any way of identifying it?

Secureteam have posted another vid of the same object (supposedly).

Is it possible that this is simply footage of a helicopter circling (as they often do) and the sphere has been skilfully added afterwards to make it look as though the helicopter is circling it?

Has there been any statement from those onboard the helicopter to confirm this object was really there?

the site was likely an ip tracker to try and find out where he lives.

a reply to: McGinty

I doubt it, the shills are out in full force harassing this guy to put the video on secureteam10s youtube channel, who is a known hoaxer, which would majority discredit the video.

Secureteam10 is like the CNN of the ufology world.

originally posted by: McGinty
Is it possible that this is simply footage of a helicopter circling (as they often do) and the sphere has been skilfully added afterwards to make it look as though the helicopter is circling it?

Has there been any statement from those onboard the helicopter to confirm this object was really there?

Nope. If you look on the page before this one, you'll see that another citizen in that area filmed it for 30 seconds, while he was driving down the freeway in San Gabriel Valley.