Trump expected to lift ban on military gear to local police forces

a reply to: Kryties

I simply don't trust you any more.

Lol, I'm sure he is crushed.

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

I simply don't trust you any more.

Lol, I'm sure he is crushed.

As equally as I do not care about your opinion on the topic.

a reply to: seasonalcant bush and obama sent them to fight overseas

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

I simply don't trust you any more.

Lol, I'm sure he is crushed.

As equally as I do not care about your opinion on the topic.

And we Americans don't care about your opinion on this topic because it has no effect on you whatsoever.

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

I simply don't trust you any more.

Lol, I'm sure he is crushed.

As equally as I do not care about your opinion on the topic.

And we Americans don't care about your opinion on this topic because it has no effect on you whatsoever.

And yet here you are, replying to me....

Ahh, the old " You're not American so you have no right to comment" fallback argument.

How pathetic.

Still don't care.

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Mate. Seriously. You DID NOT post the comparison statistics to back up your claim that the murder rate in the northern states is comparable to that of the U.K. All you did was provide a link to American murder stats with no comparison to prove your claim. When asked again to provide the evidence - you say that you're too busy to find it.......then come back in the thread and keep posting sizable posts.

I simply don't believe you now. I was willing to go along with you when you made the claim, provided you could show evidence, but now, after watching what you just did, I simply don't trust you any more.

There is no "finding it" because it doesn't exist. If you want to blaze that trail, go for it. Otherwise, you can accept what is available and move on with your life.

Just don't break your neck climbing down from your grand stand.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Why didn't you just say that, instead of lying, obfuscating and now trying to make out like I'm "grandstanding"?

You made the claim. I simply asked for evidence and held you to it.....as anyone would do in intellectual debate - and this is how I get treated?

Unbelievable. Remind me not to bother trying to have a debate with you on any topic ever again. It's simply not worth the nonsense I have to put up with simply for participating.

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Why didn't you just say that, instead of lying, obfuscating and now trying to make out like I'm "grandstanding"?

Please allow me to quote myself from the prior page:

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
The evidence was posted...you just want me to compile it for you. Ain't got time for that. Feel free to look through the list.

I thought i was pretty clear?

You made the claim. I simply asked for evidence and held you to it.....as anyone would do in intellectual debate - and this is how I get treated?

Unbelievable. Remind me not to bother trying to have a debate with you on any topic ever again. It's simply not worth the nonsense I have to put up with simply for participating.

Make sure you pull those splinters out of the back of your hand when you climb down off that cross.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So, one post after literally saying "The evidence doesn't exist" now you're back to trying to claim that you've already posted the evidence and that I just haven't "compiled it" yet?

Total nonsense. You posted no such evidence, you even admitted that there is no evidence to back up your claim. Anyone with two eyes in their head can see you posted no such thing.

Stop the nonsense.

a reply to: Kryties

That is not "literally" what was said.

But do go on.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

There is no "finding it" because it doesn't exist.

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

There is no "finding it" because it doesn't exist.

Yes. This after I posted both lists, and you asked for a comparison. That comparison does not exist. At least not that i have found.

Again, if you want to take both lists and make said comparison, please go ahead. Maybe after you hit that dead horse a few more times?

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

There is no "finding it" because it doesn't exist.

Yes. This after I posted both lists, and you asked for a comparison. That comparison does not exist. At least not that i have found.

Again, if you want to take both lists and make said comparison, please go ahead. Maybe after you hit that dead horse a few more times?

Why don't YOU do it, seeing as YOU made the claims? The onus is on YOU to provide the evidence.

Given that you made the claim that the northern US states murder rates are comparable to those in the UK, one might reasonably think you had already found or compared the evidence yourself. Clearly you did not.

My guess is that you know that it will not show any correlation and will disprove your claim so you don't want to do it yourself, instead trying to pass the onus onto me knowing that I refuse to do your work for you.

You were wrong. Period. The subsequent attempts to lie, obfuscate and shift the burden of proof onto others is poor form and I have lost a whole heap of respect for you because of that.

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: kyleplatinum

It's equally about appearances mate.

For a police force to show up in military hardware, using military weapons and armour, to dispel say a crowd of protesters is shocking to anyone who thought you lived in a free society where freedom of speech is allowed and freedom from tyranny is apparently upheld.

Don't know why you are only fixated on protesters. Police agencies may use some military equipment to help defend from different situations, ie active shooters, riots, local/domestic terrorism, ect.

You are just pushing the scary use of mean military police offense.

Your perception of this is not reality.

a reply to: kyleplatinum

Fixated? I merely used it as an example. I even made a point of inferring that it's merely an example.

When a police officer, employed to protect the citizens, dresses up like the friggin Terminator then people are going to be afraid and see them as militarized.

a reply to: Kryties
Twice.

dress like soldiers and use violent tactics on protesters

using military weapons and armour, to dispel say a crowd of protesters

When a police officer, employed to protect the citizens, dresses up like the friggin Terminator

Stop trying to scare people with your dramatic opinions.

I get it, you perceive them as looking scary and attacking. I see it as protection. Whats wrong with that?

Criminals NEED to be afraid of the police, why would law abiding citizens be afraid???

originally posted by: kyleplatinum

Criminals NEED to be afraid of the police, why would law abiding citizens be afraid???

I don't know, why don't you ask them? There are plenty of fearful law-abiding citizens out there or this wouldn't even be a topic.

originally posted by: Kryties


Why don't YOU do it, seeing as YOU made the claims? The onus is on YOU to provide the evidence.

Again, since we have run around this bush again, because i do not want to. I have provided you 2 lists that you can easily take a glance of a few numbers to get a gist for what is going on. But you want it compiled into a report, and im just not going to do that. I do it all day for a living and have no desire to do it for you here.

Nonetheless, the information you have asked for has been provided.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

My point was that I rightfully assumed you had made the comparisons yourself seeing as though you claimed it.

a reply to: Kryties

The topic is about Trump lifting a ban on military gear to local police forces, which I do not have a problem with, but you do.

The only people who should be afraid is the criminals, as they should be.

What does it matter how they look, or what types of equipment they are using?

They are not out to get, they are there to protect.

So, if you are not trying to fight the police, what does it matter to you?