Is America experiencing it's own Maoist Cultural Revolution?

As I live in China and married into a Chinese family which was on both sides of the Cultural Revolution I can add some other information.

- Those Red Guard folks that started the Cultural Revolution under Mao's guidance are the ones in power now in China. Censorship in China is strengthening, regulations out today - no anonymous accounts on any social media in China effective Oct 1st. Must verify with a valid Chinese ID card. Some of us are calling the current crackdown Cultural Revolution 2.

- Cultural Revolution - I could spin stories that I've heard first hand for days but I'll leave you with my mother-in-laws basic family story. Her family name dates from the Three Kingdoms period, circa 100 AD. They built up many businesses passed down through the generations, growing and shrinking, numbering about 10 usually. They were usually popular, prosperous and well respected in the city and region. She remembers her father being stoned to death in the street when she was a teenager while she watched from the family house on the second floor. All her families land, homes and businesses taken away by the Red Guards, the street where their main house was is now the most famous shopping street in Chengdu, the street still bears the family name as it did pre-revolution. It is the most expensive office and retail space in Chengdu and all the money when the land was leased went right into government coffers and communist leaders pockets.

My father-in-laws family is all communists, I don't talk to them generally except to be polite and socialize at family gatherings in the North. I prefer mom's side of the family as they are still revolutionaries as much as able.

You do not want the Antifa or Leftists going down the path they are on. It's just as the OP concluded. Many of things happening also occurred here in China during the Cultural Revolution. Everything that's been built is a target to them, history is only the beginning. I predict conservative businesses will be targeted next.

Don't forget more than 80 million starved to death in China during the CR.

originally posted by: SpartanStoic


You do not want the Antifa or Leftists going down the path they are on. It's just as the OP concluded..

This is the problem though isn't it?

On the one hand we have right wing bloggers and commentators constantly screaming about how the rabid evil Antifa/Leftist brigade is coming to overthrow everything America holds dear. And this evidence is usually based on a few crazy people appearing in a youtube video somewhere and being taken as examples of an entire organised movement.


And on the other hand we have a wide ranging disparate number of groups of people who just aren't the far-Right Trump Supporters, who stand for a large variety of things, whose message is mostly 'Racism and sexism and inequality and fascism and authoritarianism are not okay'.



The Trump supporters on the far-right don't want to listen to what the other groups say their motivations and goals are, instead they just keep shouting things like 'MAOIST REVOLUTION! REWRITING HISTORY!' And the other groups can't seem to get through to the Trump group to say well actually no, we're not all about that, we just don't think racism/sexism/inequality/etc are okay.

a reply to: SpartanStoic

Don't forget more than 80 million starved to death in China during the CR.

You hit the nail on the head-it took decades for China to recover from the great leap forward but now China is an economic powerhouse, and Trump's isolationist rhetoric only hurts economic relations.

When money talks, China can walk the walk.

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

And China regularly violates WTO policy and is taxing all American imports between 10 to 30%. Other imports are taxed similarly though Australia has some zero tax imports with the FTA in place. China still tried to violate the spirit of that agreement by opening the largest dairy in AU, owned and operated by a Chinese SOE to breed dairy cows, milk them, package and send that milk to China. This is against the spirit of the agreement and the AU gov't denied the permits and business licenses ending the deal. These are not honest people the other world governments are dealing with. The will cheat, lie, and bend rules without regard for consequences to themselves. It is a shame based society not a guilt based one. They only care if they are caught and punished.

Does America tax Chinese imports? Only steel with an anti-dumping duty.

Trump does need to force China to zero import tax for all imported goods. It's been needed for more than a decade.

a reply to: FamCore

In the video with the SJW students screaming at their teacher, it's obvious to me that these particular individuals have a groupthink mentality:

The are the borg.

Resistance is futile.

Our biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to the collective.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

In the late 1960s, the Chi Coms experienced the Cultural Revolution where Mao formed the Red Guards and started attacking not just political opponents, but also destroyed political artifacts and traditional values.

Thats Bulls***, Mao sought to remove western influence in his country. To do that he had to remove all the people infected by it.

After WWII Chiang Kai-Shek was backed byy the west to puppet control China, make China over to western ideology and western control.

Mao had to cut that cancer out of his country one person, one village, one book at a time. Read Maos little red book about western Imperialism and the threat it posed to the greater world , even back then.

Oh, you can't, its been banned. I fond a copy in a dumpster once, stamped by the federal gubment. It was most revealing. I knew right away why the Fed doesn't want it widely circulated, its full of truth.

Anyways, Chiang Kai-shek lost and Mao won, because of his cultural revolution to keep China from becoming another western Colony.

Thats not the narrative you learned in school or from the main stream media and its proponents right here.

Watch their reaction to this post.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

If Hilary won, everyone on the right would have been targeted by the government. We are lucky we dodged a bullet. You can disagree with Trump but he isn't sending the government to knock on your door.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: starwarsisreal

Meanwhile, failed rocker and draft dodger Ted Nugent was a stand-up guy when he REPEATEDLY called for the assassination of the last President, eh?

Nothing like consistency in belief.

30 million albums sold, $20million net worth ia a failure as a muscician? With statements like this perhaps there is an Orwellian movement afoot. You know- war is peace, up is down, success is failure.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

I was just about getting used to the new levels of crazy on ATS when you posted this.

Seriously?

It's beyond parody.

While there is some concerted effort to paint the current revolution as a second coming of the Civil War, it would be historically inaccurate to characterize the current revolution as anything other than an attempt to copy the Maoist Cultural Revolution with Antifa as the proto-red guard of the united states. It is only a matter of time before their protest costumes, logos, and gear get codified into a 21st century Brassard and paramilitary paraphernalia.

As the Far Right represents various elements including neo nazis and nazis,
The Anti Fa is the exact opposite.
That groups them every bit as much Trotskyists, Maoists, and communists,
as they like to paint the Far Right they claim to be diametrically opposed to.

originally posted by: intrptr
Read Maos little red book about western Imperialism and the threat it posed to the greater world , even back then.

Oh, you can't, its been banned. I fond a copy in a dumpster once, stamped by the federal gubment. It was most revealing. I knew right away why the Fed doesn't want it widely circulated, its full of truth.

Someone really ought to get round to instructing Amazon not to sell it any more. But if you order a copy and it is intercepted by the FBI, you can always read one of the many translations of Mao's "Red Book" that are available on the net.

originally posted by: audubon

originally posted by: intrptr
Read Maos little red book about western Imperialism and the threat it posed to the greater world , even back then.

Oh, you can't, its been banned. I fond a copy in a dumpster once, stamped by the federal gubment. It was most revealing. I knew right away why the Fed doesn't want it widely circulated, its full of truth.

Someone really ought to get round to instructing Amazon not to sell it any more. But if you order a copy and it is intercepted by the FBI, you can always read one of the many translations of Mao's "Red Book" that are available on the net.

After you...

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
I thought the Buzzword was "Cultural Marxism" now we moved on to Maoism, how many more authoritarian dictatorships are we going through?

Cultural Marxism is more about Champagne Socialists. They were smart suits, neat haircuts, promise to make the future a better place, but completely bollox up everything they do, then try and hush it up, threatening anyone who dares talk. They'll sell off school playing fields "to help solve the housing crisis". Then realize that they now have to rebuild existing schools for the extra demand, so they build over existing parks. Now there a shortage of green space, and then families move out. Then homes are converted into HMO's, crime goes up, and then they have budget shortfalls due to policing and social services.

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: SpartanStoic

Don't forget more than 80 million starved to death in China during the CR.

You hit the nail on the head-it took decades for China to recover from the great leap forward but now China is an economic powerhouse, and Trump's isolationist rhetoric only hurts economic relations.

When money talks, China can walk the walk.

In order to even do business in China, you have to give up some of your corporate secrets. And China can and does change their rules and regs so that you can be regulated out of the market or be found in violation on whim in order to suit them. They will also boot you out of doing business inside their country as soon as they feel they are producing their own domestic version of what they have ripped off from you. Notice I did not say developed their own, but producing their own domestic version based on your corporate secrets you were required to give them, so you best not give them anything critical because they will compete with it as an export too if they can.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

But would you call George Washington, Ben Franklin and the rest of those hooligans Maoist revolutionaries? Serious question, although you could argue that I'm making a leap in comparison. I'd say protesting, and fighting to change what you think is injustice is always in vogue and who are we to say that George and the rest of the revolutionaries were right? They were considered by many to be the Antifa of their time, just like modern day SJWs, trying to make social change that not everyone wanted. Why couldn't they be happy with their relative prosperity and freedom. Scums!~

I just don't see a (real) communist movement by the left. And we all know that SJW or Social Justice Warriors can be both liberal or Conservative (war on Christmas) ring any bells?

So Modern day republicans love Putin -a Communist- Modern day Liberals not so much. The question then is. Can one be leading a maoist communist revolution if one hates communists?

In a reply to: starwarsisreal

An interesting take, summed up well and one I agree with. There is a group interested in seeing the United States torn down from what it was, for what reason I'm not sure. However, I'm fairly certain that George Soros, a former Nazi and beloved friend of the Dems and Antifa is either wholly, or partially responsible for it.

I cannot even begin to fathom what state we'd be in had Hillary or the left won this election.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I guess he was worried after what Obama said in 08 about republicans.

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”

People say lots of things. Like Trump shooting someone...that was as gem. It is the context and perception that gets them in trouble.

originally posted by: cenpuppie
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What? Taking down statues is not rewriting history. Calling slaves immigrants is rewriting history.

Where the heck did i say "slaves are immigrants"?... Yet more red herrings. BTW, taking down historical statues is indeed "re-writing history". Look at the calls from the left to also take down statues and monuments of Washington and Jefferson...

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
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Do the history-Mao 50 million, Trump zero. Trump is not killing millions of Americans to make America great again, the same can't be said for Mao.

The op is not claiming that Trump is like Mao, he/she said that "the left sjw, antifa, etc are like the Mao movement".

Let them keep on. They better be very careful because those of us who have served in the military promised to defend our Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. I consider them domestic enemies. If they push to hard it will be a can of whoop ass opened I am sure they cannot close or defeat. Just saying.