Decide for yourself: 7 hour video of Boston protest

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Grambler

I listened to a radio call in show with an ANTIFA organizer, this morning, and one liberal after another called in to say that they denounce ANTIFA's violent tactics and stated that ANTIFA was a liability to the left. Some of them sounded pretty passionate about that and a couple even mentioned how they care about free speech and nonviolence above all else...to paraphrase.

I wish I knew what show I was listening to, but I wasn't really paying attention to that part of it.

Made me feel a lot better though.

That is good.

But from watching this rally, it didn't look like just antifa engaging in violence. It seemed to be a large group of people.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

More lies, they didn't come to protest "free speech" they came to protest racism, fascism and White Supremacy.

So thats why large groups of them attacked every Trump supporter, because those supporters are racist?

Right EVERY Trump supporter was attacked by large groups ... is this like the "mob" of 40K "violent leftists."

You are the only one here minimizing violence, supporting the obvious elements of instigation and agitation THAT THE BOSTON POLICE TOLD US WERE THERE.

But that plays to your narrative, which you claim you don't have.

BS.

I'll watch the video timestamps. If I'm wrong, and there is actually violence on the same scale as Charlottesville, I'll be glad to state that and apologize.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

Thanks. I'll go back and watch each one. That would have been a reasonable OP.

Are you kidding?

I go through the effort to go through the video and time stamp things, and you arguing on and on about how there wasn't violence, or it was inflamed, etc. and you didn't even have the decency to watch it.

Then you complain because I posted the stamps after the OP?

Unreal.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Grambler

I listened to a radio call in show with an ANTIFA organizer, this morning, and one liberal after another called in to say that they denounce ANTIFA's violent tactics and stated that ANTIFA was a liability to the left. Some of them sounded pretty passionate about that and a couple even mentioned how they care about free speech and nonviolence above all else...to paraphrase.

I wish I knew what show I was listening to, but I wasn't really paying attention to that part of it.

Made me feel a lot better though.

That is good.

But from watching this rally, it didn't look like just antifa engaging in violence. It seemed to be a large group of people.

Mob mentality probably played a big part. And that is a concerning thing.

I still think the mainstream does not like all this dramzzzzzz....

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

More lies, they didn't come to protest "free speech" they came to protest racism, fascism and White Supremacy.

More lies because they attacked Trump supporters on sight even the black guys. We have proof of it but you ignorantly choose to ignore it of course. The rally was over and the counter-protesters targeted the police next. # the police and kill all cops chants were heard over and over again and you claim this was a peaceful protest. Get the # outa here you hypocrite.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

More lies, they didn't come to protest "free speech" they came to protest racism, fascism and White Supremacy.

So thats why large groups of them attacked every Trump supporter, because those supporters are racist?

Right EVERY Trump supporter was attacked by large groups ... is this like the "mob" of 40K "violent leftists."

You are the only one here minimizing violence, supporting the obvious elements of instigation and agitation THAT THE BOSTON POLICE TOLD US WERE THERE.

But that plays to your narrative, which you claim you don't have.

BS.

I'll watch the video timestamps. If I'm wrong, and there is actually violence on the same scale as Charlottesville, I'll be glad to state that and apologize.

The police in Boston was allowed to do there #ing job unlike in Charlottesville. Your argument is moot.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

More lies, they didn't come to protest "free speech" they came to protest racism, fascism and White Supremacy.

So thats why large groups of them attacked every Trump supporter, because those supporters are racist?

Right EVERY Trump supporter was attacked by large groups ... is this like the "mob" of 40K "violent leftists."

You are the only one here minimizing violence, supporting the obvious elements of instigation and agitation THAT THE BOSTON POLICE TOLD US WERE THERE.

But that plays to your narrative, which you claim you don't have.

BS.

I'll watch the video timestamps. If I'm wrong, and there is actually violence on the same scale as Charlottesville, I'll be glad to state that and apologize.

Who said it was at the level of Charlotteville?

That had two sides prepared for battle duking it out while the cops let them.

Boston was just one side using violence while the police and veteran groups stepped in to help those being attacked.

But you show me on the video, anywhere where violence was instigated by the rally attendees.

a reply to: Grambler

I wish I was able to post links, but I can't ATM. But Mark Dice put together a compilation video of all the times Trump has denounced the kkk, white supremacists etc.._ yet the media and the left just keep ignoring it. It's like they WANT to keep the blinders on. Unbelievable.

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: Grambler

I wish I was able to post links, but I can't ATM. But Mark Dice put together a compilation video of all the times Trump has denounced the kkk, white supremacists etc.._ yet the media and the left just keep ignoring it. It's like they WANT to keep the blinders on. Unbelievable.

I'll help out.

a reply to: Grambler

That the media lied. This protest wasn't peaceful, and the ideas being expressed their were very hateful, not love.

You'll happy to know then that Trump's pal Sean Hannity just said on the radio that 99% of the UTR rally-goers were not neo-Nazis, KKK or white nationalists.

I've been to far more violent concerts. In fact, I can't think of the last time I went to a concert and there wasn't a fight. If that's what you came up with from hours of footage of 40,000 impassioned people, then I would call that pretty damn peaceful.

Show me 40,000 conservatives shutting down liberal speakers with ind=timidation and violence. Show me conservatoves silencing left wing speakers and the medi and police applauding it as a victory over hate.

Why do you even try to play this game? You know that I will and I won't need 40k people to do it. I won't even need 400. Here's a typically violent "Trump supporter" crowd in California.

1:30 in the below video, Trump supporter assaults a person with her phone.



Same event, at 00:56, Trump supporter hits photographer with flag for no reason:



That kicked off this series of events where a Trump agitator told another Trump supporter that the woman who had assaulted the photographer had been assaulted. So of course, the super chill, peaceful, loving, non-violent Trump supporter assaulted the photographer — sucker punching him in the back of the head.

Then somebody tried to stop that so he assaulted that person too. Then this "free speech rally" devolved further into a group of straight up neo-Nazis, chasing, swarming and beating down an Antifa protester:



I really like how the one Trump supporter is yelling "Pinochet! You get helicopter rides!"

Don't miss this up close shot here. At 3:40, that would be the "Rise Above Movement" pukes that I mentioned in my thread, in action. Despite these neo-Nazi assholes spending the rest of their free time training, they fight like b#s. Notice how one guy holds the Antifa kid's hand down and films while the neo-Nazi pummels him:



Notice who posted the video. Vincent James of Red Elephants who dubbed his neo-Nazi pal "based elbow man." You can see him right at the beginning of the video, in the "Keep Calm" t-shirt.

See, there's a whole cottage industry of giving violent thugs, often enough neo-Nazi punks, meme'able names like "based elbow man" and then pushing videos of them fighting as "heroes." And they don't do it for free, they've monetized promoting political violence. And look here, this neck beard is asking for people to fund him on Patreon as he pushes this neo-Nazi fight club:



Can you find me one example of the Left doing that?

I was going to save that for something else but since we're going to do the "look how bad these people are" nonsense, let's see just how dangerous "Trump supporters" can be, even in small numbers.

Mark my words, as long as one side is cheered for their hate, they will grow and grow, and innocent people will pay the price (as some did at this rally). This in turn will make the other hate filled group grow.

See above. That event was largely peaceful. Yes, some people acted like assholes. They were hostile. They were aggressive. A few of them were violently pushing people.

It seems to me that your argument can be summed us this way: the Left is responsible for everything bad. It the left-wingers are being violent, it's because they're violent. If right-wingers are being violent, it's only in response to the left being violent.

If your goal is to paint people by the worst in a crowd, I could easily respond with plenty of hostile, aggressive, pushy and sometimes punchy Tea Partier videos I can share? These people thought they were there to protest neo-Nazis. What were the Tea Party protesting again? Remember those kicked off in February of 2009. A month after Obama was sworn in. What do you think was behind all that anger? Was it media fueled division? The media was winding up right-wingers against the brand new President? I think it was.

In fact, I would say that GOP politicians, right-wing media, etc wound up millions of Americans for YEARS and that their divisive manipulation ultimately led to a world where Trump became the GOP nominee by virtue of being the most extreme.

I guess I could try to find a similar video of 40,000 right-wingers who think they're there to protest people who murdered somebody the week before. Probably not going to find that though am I? So what else can I provide that will demonstrate that these protesters aren't particularly violent or unique?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Then maybe it is time the 'left' comes out to protest the counter-protesters protests...

a reply to: Perfectenemy

That's it, thanks my freind.

a reply to: matafuchs

How much do you think they will they accomplish if they do so peacefully?

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Then maybe it is time the 'left' comes out to protest the counter-protesters protests...

They called in...what more can you ask of them? They don't want to get hit with bottles of ANTIFA urine either.

a reply to: Wookiep

What difference does that make?

Those voting for him because they believe that he dog whistled to them are the ones at the rallies, not Trump himself.

a reply to: Grambler

1:42:00 So, let's make sure we're on the same page, a "citizen journalist" with some right-wing Youtube channel (complete with "commentary" from the "anchorman") walks around for almost two hours ... and finally comes upon a "lone Trump supporter" who for some reason is walking around in the middle of the counter-protesters? Okay.

1:43:15 ... Yep, seems like the "Trump supporter" has finally managed to piss some folks off.

1:44: 00 ... So, you're saying some of the "40K leftist mob" were calling for no violence? Hmmm.

(Why does the produced video have so many sudden "cuts" to obviously different footage again?)

1:45 :40 Again, why have the "Trump supporters" embedded themselves strategically in the middle of the counter-protesters? How is it that the "Citizen Journalist" always happens to be "right on the scene"?

Follow up to that ... hundreds in your "violent leftist mob" are filming the action as well ... that seems rather odd for folks bent on "looking for a kill" don't you think?

1:52:43 "Streaming says"? Not sure what that means, do you mean the "commentator" from Right Wing BS Youtube Channel? Or the "Citizen Journalist Cameraman" who always, by some miracle, is always right on the spot (in a crowd of 40,000 people) to film instigators being "yelled at and pushed."

Enough. This is what you want to equate to a march of torch-bearing Nazis and White Supremacists SURROUNDING a group of students who were actually, in reality, having their own ASSEMBLY to SPEAK THEIR MINDS???

A group of "embedded Trump supporters" being followed around by a "Cameraman" for the Right Wing Broadcasting Network.

You've just explicitly told me what you're here to do, Grambler.

You're prostituting this garbage propaganda as something it isn't.

You're equating real violence and terrorism with a bunch of folks that let themselves get baited.

Thanks.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Good luck doing the same with BLM. Spoiler: BLM was also in Boston and they couldn't stay peaceful again. Both sides are full of morons but it' was very telling that the special kind of numbnuts in Boston went looking for a fight with the police and in some case with themselves.

a reply to: Gryphon66

The whole cell-phone network was very wonky because every idiot used his phone during the protest to make clips or videos. You call that moron in Charlottesville a terrorist and the MSM called the death of 5 cops getting shot by a sniper a tragedy. Yeah that seems fair. Lets wait until the roles are reversed shall we.

a reply to: Grambler

You're going to love this one. I'd never seen it before but it's a beaut. Guy has Parkinson's disease. Look how nicely the right-wingers treat him. The one guy gives him some money and everything! :



Oh wait, this one from 2011. This woman was highly triggered:



But hey, maybe they're nicer in larger crowds right?



Hell, even with a police escort, he couldn't make it out with his offensive sign supporting a.... *gasp* ... public option! It literally say, "Public Option Now!" (a really good idea) and they're losing their collective s# for what?

I could do this for days. But why? Why the need to try to paint everyday folks come out to protest a rally where there was a reasonable expectation of hate groups, as horrible people the week after Charlottesville? I don't feel the need to point out how nasty right-wingers often are, particularly in groups. And mind you, these are in parks. Let me track down some close quarters situations where people can't help but bump into one another.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Excellent work as usual.

You have a heck of a lot more patience with liars and Nazi sympathizers than I do.