The Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party

a reply to: Xcathdra

Lincoln...the guy that made the motion...

He was all for ending slavery, yet had a standpoint of negroes being considered only 3/5 a human.

Yea. selective racism is running a bit rampant.

The successor to the Democratic-Republican Party, the Democrats historically acted as the more populist party, as opposed to the mercantilist Whigs and (later) the industrial Republicans. At the same time, however, it was rooted in many socially and economically conservative views, notably being anti-Second Bank (Andrew Jackson), anti-tariff (ie. the Bourbons) and supporting and upholding slavery (later segregation).

The party began to move to the left in two major shifts, starting with Woodrow Wilson in the 1910s and Franklin D. Roosevelt during the Great Depression. The latter was buffered by the "New Deal Coalition," a combination of urban constituents, immigrants, intellectuals, organized labour, farmers, whites from the Solid South and (for the first time) African Americans, all of whom agreed on more government intervention in the economy but not much else.[2]

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originally posted by: Kali74

The successor to the Democratic-Republican Party, the Democrats historically acted as the more populist party, as opposed to the mercantilist Whigs and (later) the industrial Republicans. At the same time, however, it was rooted in many socially and economically conservative views, notably being anti-Second Bank (Andrew Jackson), anti-tariff (ie. the Bourbons) and supporting and upholding slavery (later segregation).

The party began to move to the left in two major shifts, starting with Woodrow Wilson in the 1910s and Franklin D. Roosevelt during the Great Depression. The latter was buffered by the "New Deal Coalition," a combination of urban constituents, immigrants, intellectuals, organized labour, farmers, whites from the Solid South and (for the first time) African Americans, all of whom agreed on more government intervention in the economy but not much else.[2]

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You quote that like it's a good thing?

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Your post supports the point made in the video so im still unsure of what your point actually is.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Xcathdra

Lincoln...the guy that made the motion...

He was all for ending slavery, yet had a standpoint of negroes being considered only 3/5 a human.

Yea. selective racism is running a bit rampant.

The 3/5 clause was there long before Lincoln was alive.

The Democrats' dominant worldview was once social conservativism and economic liberalism, while—especially in the rural South—populism was its leading characteristic. In 1912, Theodore Roosevelt ran as a third-party candidate in the Progressive ("Bull Moose") Party, leading to a switch of political platforms between the Democratic and Republican Party and Woodrow Wilson being elected as the first fiscally progressive Democrat. Since Franklin D. Roosevelt and his New Deal coalition in the 1930s, the Democratic Party has also promoted a social-liberal platform,[3] supporting social justice.[14]

Well into the 20th century, the party had conservative pro-business and southern conservative-populist anti-business wings. The New Deal Coalition of 1932–1964 attracted strong support from voters of recent European extraction—many of whom were Catholics based in the cities.[18][19][20] After Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal of the 1930s, the pro-business wing withered outside the South. After the racial turmoil of the 1960s, most southern whites and many northern Catholics moved into the Republican Party at the presidential level. The once-powerful labor union element became smaller and less supportive after the 1970s. White Evangelicals and Southerners became heavily Republican at the state and local level in the 1990s. Racial and ethnic minorities in the U.S. such as Jewish Americans, Hispanic Americans, Arabic Americans, and African Americans, tend to support the Democratic Party much more than they support the rival Republican Party (GOP), giving the Democratic Party its current membership lead over the Republicans.

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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Xcathdra

Lincoln...the guy that made the motion...

He was all for ending slavery, yet had a standpoint of negroes being considered only 3/5 a human.

Yea. selective racism is running a bit rampant.

A constitutional amendment was needed to fix that as no act by a President could. It is a part of the Constitution in case you didnt know that.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Is it incorrect information?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Is it incorrect information?

Incorrect or not it dpesnt change the facts in the video and trying to label them as right wing in an effort to deflect their history doesnt work.

a reply to: Xcathdra

It does if you read history.

a reply to: Xcathdra

No, it does not. But that is OK.
We all need to finfd our own decisions.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Is it incorrect information?

Tell me it is not?

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Is it incorrect information?

Incorrect or not it dpesnt change the facts in the video and trying to label them as right wing in an effort to deflect their history doesnt work.

History only is true for current day?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
As I stated before - Black people voting for Democrats would be like having Jews voting for the SS.

This right here is one of the more stupid comments I've read on ATS.

You guys do realize that the name of the party is not what matters right?

Its the Ideology.

The Parties switched Ideologies at mid century.

The Liberals became the Democrats (because the Republicans were Liberal) and the Conservatives became the Republicans.

They all switched teams.

So yeah, the President that free'd the slaves, would have been a Democrat today due to the current definition as to what comprises a Democrat (Liberal)

Nice try though

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

It's cliff notey is all.

I get your issue with the source though.

a reply to: Xcathdra

The video is propaganda.

a reply to: Kali74

Kali,

That's all I ask.

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: Xcathdra

No, it does not. But that is OK.
We all need to finfd our own decisions.

Republican party was formed as an anti slavery party. Your source states that.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Xcathdra

The video is propaganda.

LOL not even close.

feel free to refute every single point made.