Is It Ok To Punch A Nazi?

a reply to: seagull

Sometimes the law doesn't come into play on deciding what the right thing to do is.

people seem to be thinking about this all wrong from the get-go
you've all got this false equivalency thing going on
acting like a nazi who isn't attacking you is just another upstanding civilian

well sorry guys, hate to remind you but you're starting from the complete wrong point there
there is no such thing as a nazi at rest

the nazi's default state is as part of a genocidal apparatus
hellbent on eliminating all people they deem 'unclean'
and ruling the world as a white ethnostate.
a nazi may not be currently physically assaulting you
but there is no reasoning with them.
there's no compromise you can reach.
by sheer dint of existing in the world, the nazi is working towards doing harm to you and those you love.

emphatic hell yes - punch the nazi.
nazi ain't got no humanity.

originally posted by: continuousThunder
people seem to be thinking about this all wrong from the get-go
you've all got this false equivalency thing going on
acting like a nazi who isn't attacking you is just another upstanding civilian

well sorry guys, hate to remind you but you're starting from the complete wrong point there
there is no such thing as a nazi at rest

the nazi's default state is as part of a genocidal apparatus
hellbent on eliminating all people they deem 'unclean'
and ruling the world as a white ethnostate.
a nazi may not be currently physically assaulting you
but there is no reasoning with them.
there's no compromise you can reach.
by sheer dint of existing in the world, the nazi is working towards doing harm to you and those you love.

emphatic hell yes - punch the nazi.
nazi ain't got no humanity.

What would you suggest? punch them in the face each and every waking moment of their lives? Maybe throw them into camps?

Where does your violence end? If you can justify punching people for what they think, surely you can justify a great deal more.

a reply to: kruphix

...and you get to decide when that is, apparently--and the rest of your mob. Thanks for the warning.

So just walking up to someone on the street who may be a Nazi and punching them is the right thing to do??

Huh.

That's a way to silence other opinions that are disagreeable, and make no mistake WS and associated thinking is disagreeable, is to punch it.

Isn't that what they do? Here I thought we were different. Guess not.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Where does your violence end?

I'm wondering that, as well. I thought violence outside of self-defence was wrong. Isn't that the message we all learn from an early age? I certainly did, and it took. I've yet to just walk up to someone and punch 'em.

If you can justify punching people for what they think, surely you can justify a great deal more.

Yes, they can, and eventually will.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: continuousThunder
people seem to be thinking about this all wrong from the get-go
you've all got this false equivalency thing going on
acting like a nazi who isn't attacking you is just another upstanding civilian

well sorry guys, hate to remind you but you're starting from the complete wrong point there
there is no such thing as a nazi at rest

the nazi's default state is as part of a genocidal apparatus
hellbent on eliminating all people they deem 'unclean'
and ruling the world as a white ethnostate.
a nazi may not be currently physically assaulting you
but there is no reasoning with them.
there's no compromise you can reach.
by sheer dint of existing in the world, the nazi is working towards doing harm to you and those you love.

emphatic hell yes - punch the nazi.
nazi ain't got no humanity.

What would you suggest? punch them in the face each and every waking moment of their lives? Maybe throw them into camps?

Where does your violence end? If you can justify punching people for what they think, surely you can justify a great deal more.

I find it so fascinating how the arguments for punching a nazi are the exact same reason a nazi would give for justification of attacking jews or racial groups.

Replace nazi in continous's post with the word jew, or zionist, and it is almost word for word what a nazi would ssay.

We are entering a very dangerous area.

Once you totally dehumnize your opponent, and justify the use of violence against them based on their mere existance, you are only a small step away fro then labeling anyone who disagrees with you as having no humanity, and attacking them too.

They have become the very thing they claim to fight, and they have no idea.

a reply to: Grambler

I wonder what these folks think of the Saudi Morals Police, or whatever they're called, who will beat people who don't conform to their idea of right?

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Grambler

I wonder what these folks think of the Saudi Morals Police, or whatever they're called, who will beat people who don't conform to their idea of right?

Look at the boston protest yesterday.

40,000 people showed up to protest what they were ABSOLUTELY SURE was a white supremacist rally.

They screamed nazi at ever rally attendee they could, surrounding them and often attacking.

They were convinced that those attending the rally were evil. And now as video of the rally comes out, it turns out they were wrong.

They dehumanized anyone with a different opinion, and this allowed them to shut down innocent people as though they were monsters.

This is exactly what the nazis did.

Its only going to escalate, as you can see on this thread there are people that feel totally justified in committing violence, and there numbers are growing everyday.

a reply to: Grambler

Yep. I saw it. We've seen it elsewhere.

I've been called a racist, because I'm not going to partake in protests hosted by the local college--private liberal arts college.

I've been threatened with violence because I looked like, just looked, a Trump supporter. Not, but that's not the point of this little rant...People judging by appearance is the point.

As a child, since I was born with a cleft pallet, I was judged by adults--who you think would know better--to be mentally handicapped.

I'm hardly alone in this.

a reply to: kruphix

I disagree. Everyone should at all times abide by the law. The law is what holds society together.

Abide the law, but know, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

a reply to: Grambler

dude are you genuinely equating judaism - which is a legitimate religion - with the group who are most famous for killing millions of jews? cus that's seriously messed up.

and yeah, it's violent rhetoric for sure and i really get that it's disturbing. i know it really doesn't look like it from the way i'm talking right now but i'm pacifist as all heck. Problem is, what other option do we have? If we leave them alone they're not going to settle down and become peaceful and they're not going to play nice.
we're talking about people who've seen a history of massive slaughter and oppression and gone "hell yeah, that's what i want to be". Have you seen the Vice documentary where they explain themselves? they're literally talking about their plans for genocide there.
And if we let it go they're gonna do what the first lot of nazis did - they'll use the smokescreen cover of society at large softening their rhetoric and making excuses for them, they'll recruit from the vast number of people feeling disenfranchised and looking for someone to blame in these hard economic times, and if they have their way they'll commit actual genocide.
you talk abut us dehumanising them, but they dehumanised themselves.
they've already showed their colours
they're already boasting about their plans!
why should we wait til they're putting people in ovens to do something about it?

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Abide the law, but know, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

That's precisely why those antifa scumbags ought to be shaking in their birkenstocks.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Not freely, no--it must be in self defense or in the defense of one's property. From what I saw concerning the footage of the UtR people, they hadn't been defacing any property or doing anything up until the violence erupted (unless new information has come out since last week). Once that happened, everything that was going on was illegal anyhow, it had become a riot (not a protest...on both sides), and anyone who decided to stick around was choosing breaking the law.

That said, anyone fighting in self defense should not be arrested, unless they provoked the initial attack or was refusing to leave because they were choosing to participate in the rioting by remaining there. There is plenty of video of seemingly unprovoked attacks from both sides of the riot, so if you're implying that I should have sympathy or excuse the actions for only one side, you will appropriately hear the sound of crickets (or the world's smallest violin).

For all of those that are on the fence about rather or not punching a nazi is a good idea, see this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

People said its ik to punch a nazi. In fact, if fascists ever get power we would need to have a second civil war and shoot them.

And we would have to annihilate all fascists from the face of the earth.

AND Trump and all of his supporters a fascists.

Therefore we may have to annihilate every trump supporter.

Do you see how quickly this escalates?

Do you think it will stop with the genocide of Trump supporters? Of course not.

But note how others on that thread defend these statements. Not defend as in defending the RIGHT to say it, but defending the idea itself.

Be careful about signing up for those CIA remote viewing threads on ATS.
Good way to get droned..
They are looking for black NAZI's from Zaire with their ELINT program.

Violence of any kind is not OK.

originally posted by: redtic
a reply to: Edumakated

Not sure you want to make blanket statements like that - I'm fairly certain that the entire "left" doesn't feel that way.

Turnabout is fair play. Hell I'm a white male who voted for Trump. According to CNN that automatically makes me a white supremacist and a Nazi.