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Why both sides are terrible in this whole Charlottesville debacle.

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:14 AM
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Ok I know there are already many threads on this topic but I think the shouting is drowning out reasonable voices.

For the most part I've stayed out of these discussions because it's such a huge mess.
I had a thought that I believe describes the situation that everyone should be able to understand.

Ok the Neo-Nazis are terrible I don't think any reasonable person will argue against that.

For the sake of this thread we'll say they are the equivalent to ISIS. That shouldn't be too hard to wrap our heads around.

Now AntiFa, up to this point they have done nothing but riot, loot, destroy and attack people. They can say they are against fascism all they want. They are not good guys. We're going to say they are the equivalent of AL Queada.

So AL Queada shows up and attacks ISIS. That's great that they are fighting each other. But neither is right. The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.

I hope this helps some people get a better grasp on the situation.

Have a wonderful day.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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Bingo!

I don't understand how people can take a side in this idiocy.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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It's terrible that there are "sides" at all.

I see only stupidity. Everyone trying to win some imagined game.

Not good enough to be considered "good" at something? Well, just take up a cause for your race/religion/sexuality/political ideals...then go march or something. Be big and important, show everyone how great you are just because you "are".

I hope your thread helps some people grasp this as well. It is tough to stay out of these conversations. I'm as guilty as anyone.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:24 AM
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Both sides, extreme right and left are to blame. End of Story. One of you choose to quote me to defend the "innocent" side as you all proclaim, you are just as guilty as they are. A Nazi.

Dont do it.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: wheresthebody

Because one side is proudly nwo nazis maybe???



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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I thought it was AntiFa wanting to destroy monuments that have stood for personages and times in American history... Sounds more like ISIS to me ... hahah
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


Depending on who you ask, that could be used to describe either side.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: wheresthebody

Because one side is proudly nwo nazis maybe???


And the other side are Radical Marxists.

They BOTH suck.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: 727Sky
I thought it was AntiFa wanting to destroy monuments that have stood for personages and times in American history... Sounds more like ISIS to me ... hahah

It is the World Worker's Party . No idea how they got into it...
A bunch of foreign college kids hating on the country that is educating them
That was the statue defilers.
They in jail now. On felonies.

edit on 8/16/17 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: watchitburn

This is not an even money game...

I'm gonna have to snopes all this antifa stuff, because previous to this week. I'm not sure I have ever even heard of them.. yet they are supposedly an even money threat with a century old genocidal white supremacists movement....

I doubt it..

This just screams of right wing "look they are as bad as our worst people.."

Rather than any actual evidence..



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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Both are the disgusting extremities of the left and right and should be completely eradicated from our discourse. Trump needs to come out and name both groups and affiliates as domestic terror groups. That's the only solution in my opinion.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: watchitburn


This has all been socially engineered in academia. Promoted by our government and the state run media MSM and won't end until we get rid of all the rats who are behind it.


Look at our government for instance. Can any of you not see how they are behind this? How about college professors, who have done nothing more than brain wash people into hating everything about the country they live in to do nothing more but want to burn it all to the ground?


There is a lot more behind this than 2 sides who are opposing destructive forces. WE need to go after those in our government, past and present who seem to be hell bent on Globalism. We need to go after the Deep state actors in the MSM who are pushing this agenda of destruction. These idiots who are the foot soldiers doing the fighting on the street are the end results of the major players I already mentioned. We have to cure the disease, not treat the symptoms. That's just my 2 cents on the issue. Arrest all these useful idiots you want. Won't solve a damn thing until we follow the money and take down the corruption that is the root cause of this mental illness we are witnessing.

If we don't? Be prepared, for the Republic will not stand, if we keep treating the symptom......



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: wheresthebody

Because one side is proudly nwo nazis maybe???


Seriously please educate yourself on the whole Antifa issue before you embarrass yourself any further. Look up G20 riots and Berkeley. Just for you. g20-number-of-injured-police-cl ose-to-500-after-three-days-of-rioting-in-hamburg Deny ignorance.




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:37 AM
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An intelligent person doesn't "choose sides", "pick teams" or anything else that limits their thinking to be within a predefined mindset.

All these people are fools, I could really care less which is whom and who stands for what.

It's like watching a bunch of chimps in a cage to me. God humanity is just worthless.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: MisterSpock

That world killer asteroid or planet Nibiru should be here by now to put humanity back into perspective. You would think by now its time to hit the reset button and erase the mistake of the homo.sapien.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: watchitburn


This has all been socially engineered in academia. Promoted by our government and the state run media MSM and won't end until we get rid of all the rats who are behind it.


Look at our government for instance. Can any of you not see how they are behind this? How about college professors, who have done nothing more than brain wash people into hating everything about the country they live in to do nothing more but want to burn it all to the ground?


There is a lot more behind this than 2 sides who are opposing destructive forces. WE need to go after those in our government, past and present who seem to be hell bent on Globalism. We need to go after the Deep state actors in the MSM who are pushing this agenda of destruction. These idiots who are the foot soldiers doing the fighting on the street are the end results of the major players I already mentioned. We have to cure the disease, not treat the symptoms. That's just my 2 cents on the issue. Arrest all these useful idiots you want. Won't solve a damn thing until we follow the money and take down the corruption that is the root cause of this mental illness we are witnessing.

If we don't? Be prepared, for the Republic will not stand, if we keep treating the symptom......




THIS. The madness in a nutshell. Bravo.




posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: wheresthebody

Because one side is proudly nwo nazis maybe???


Seriously please educate yourself on the whole Antifa issue before you embarrass yourself any further. Look up G20 riots and Berkeley. Just for you. g20-number-of-injured-police-cl ose-to-500-after-three-days-of-rioting-in-hamburg Deny ignorance.



The irony is that Antifa is actually funded by a former Nazi youth who helped find Jews to go to death camps who is anti Capitalist and wants to destroy America. Useful idiots?



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: watchitburn

This is not an even money game...

I'm gonna have to snopes all this antifa stuff, because previous to this week. I'm not sure I have ever even heard of them.. yet they are supposedly an even money threat with a century old genocidal white supremacists movement....

I doubt it..

This just screams of right wing "look they are as bad as our worst people.."

Rather than any actual evidence..



Hmm. Isn't it telling that you have never heard of this movement that haas been carrying out riots against speakers on the right for quite a while now?

And then the media goes berserk when Trump blames both sides.

Almost like the media doesn't want you to know about Antifa and other violent left wing groups.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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Well looks like i was right again. I knew innocent people would get caught in the crossfire. Feel free to take this story with a grain of salt but the MSM is just not reporting it. Sorry for the lack of multiple sources.

man-stabbed-antifa-mob-outside-home-not-condem ning-nazis-hard-enough
edit on 16-8-2017 by Perfectenemy because: gremlins are members of Antifa



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
a reply to: MisterSpock

That world killer asteroid or planet Nibiru should be here by now to put humanity back into perspective. You would think by now its time to hit the reset button and erase the mistake of the homo.sapien.


Amen to that.

The herd needs thinning.

I just pray I am first off this rock.



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