Top labor leader resigns from Trump’s jobs council after Trump blames ‘both sides’ for Charlot

a reply to: 3daysgone

Both are to be blamed for that Heather's death.

No. You don't get to pin the death of that woman on anyone other than the man that decided to drive his car through the crowd.

Two groups showed up with shields and clubs.

Only stupid people would claim either was innocent.

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: olaru12

Trump isn't draining the swamp. His presidency has turned racist toxic and no thinking republican wants to be associated.

No more so than attacks on free speech that has been been going on for quiet sometime now. Where was your outrage there?

Haven't you heard of the saying,

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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That sounds like a threat, you coming for me bro?...noted. Hiel Trump...right?

originally posted by: xuenchen
Some people are just too sensitive.

Every little nit-picky thing sets them off.

Yeah nit picky like the murder of 6 million Jews

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: 3daysgone

Both are to be blamed for that Heather's death.

No. You don't get to pin the death of that woman on anyone other than the man that decided to drive his car through the crowd.

And he was a Nazi. Time to take responsibility and put the blame on the white supremacist that influenced him to violence.

a reply to: Painterz

You don't get to be ceo of a major company if you're a sensitive snowflake, that's just an absurd suggestion.

With that logic you are saying Trump is not a snowflake. Is that your finale answer?

And if they were so corrupt, why did trump invite them into his special club in the first place?

They may not be corrupt. They may be just a little to sensitive.

You trump supporters are sounding more and more desperate as you try and defend your guy.

I am not defending him. I am agreeing with him. Both groups are to blame. Both groups where infiltrated by the far left and far right. Why would I even have to defend him for condemning both groups is the real answer I seek in all of this.

Maybe they've all resigned because they're as genuinely disgusted by trump as everybody else outside of alt-right echo chambers is?

That very well could be true, but it is not. I am not alt right and I am not disgusted by Trump. For the first time is all my years I see a President fighting corporate CEO's, the House and Senate, MSM, Hate Groups, and a war could happen that has the potential to destroy mankind. I am sure our President has a lot on his mind. So go ahead and assert your disgust on a man who is trying to not just save this country, but the world from the very hate which consumes us.

Trump's rats are jumping ship.

How.... predictable.


At some point he's going to run out of rats willing to fill all these empty slots. Or perhaps he still has plenty of family members left over to remedy that problem ?

Other offspring, granny, granpappy, nieces, nephews, aunties, crazy uncle Fester...

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: 3daysgone

Both are to be blamed for that Heather's death.

No. You don't get to pin the death of that woman on anyone other than the man that decided to drive his car through the crowd.

And he was a Nazi. Time to take responsibility and put the blame on the white supremacist that influenced him to violence.

It's reasonable to look at what influenced that man and what drove him to do what he did, but ultimately the responsibility is on him for his actions.

To say both sides bear responsibility is completely absurd. I would not even say the other white supremacists/Nationalists are to blame. He did what he did because he chose to do it.

a reply to: introvert

No. You don't get to pin the death of that woman on anyone other than the man that decided to drive his car through the crowd.

Pin the death on who? I said it was hate to be blamed. Are you angry about me even blaming hate? You letting that very hate blame something right now. Don't be consumed.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Two groups showed up with shields and clubs.

Only stupid people would claim either was innocent.

One group wants to commit genocide. The other group wants to stop genocide.

Only stupid people would claim both sides are the same.

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: introvert

No. You don't get to pin the death of that woman on anyone other than the man that decided to drive his car through the crowd.

Pin the death on who? I said it was hate to be blamed. Are you angry about me even blaming hate? You letting that very hate blame something right now. Don't be consumed.

That is not what you said. You said "Both are to be blamed for that Heather's death".

You don't get to do that. You cannot push blame on to anyone else other than the man that ran her over.

That's very poor form and out-of-line.

a reply to: introvert

That is not what you said. You said "Both are to be blamed for that Heather's death".

And they are. The decisions that everyone there made to be there in protest that day, led up this young lady's death. To say otherwise is to deny the inevitable.

You don't get to do that. You cannot push blame on to anyone else other than the man that ran her over.

As I said before, Hate is to blame. I didn't blame anything else. You can if you want.

a reply to: 3daysgone

And they are. The decisions that everyone there made to be there in protest that day, led up this young lady's death. To say otherwise is to deny the inevitable.

No. The very specific choice that man made led to her death, regardless of whatever else transpired that day.

As I said before, Hate is to blame. I didn't blame anything else. You can if you want.

You are contradicting yourself. You blamed "the decisions that everyone there made" for her death.

How many people there made the decision to run over those people with a car out of hate?

a reply to: olaru12

That sounds like a threat, you coming for me bro?...noted. Hiel Trump...right?

Didn't someone explain to you earlier about the boy who cried wolf? Maybe it was was someone else.

a reply to: introvert

No. The very specific choice that man made led to her death, regardless of whatever else transpired that day.

So you going to go with guilty until proven innocent answer? That is fascist.

You are contradicting yourself. You blamed "the decisions that everyone there made" for her death.

I can only explain it to you. I can't understand it for you. You see it is known as the butterfly effect, but we would be going way off topic with that.

Since I can't understand this for you I will change my answer to hate then. So it will clear this matter up for you. I blame hate.

How many people there made the decision to run over those people with a car out of hate?

How many people came there knowing very well that something bad could happen? Which it did. Now do we blame the one's that were there lawfully or the one's that were there unlawfully? Unless your a fascist, then none of that matters anyway.

a reply to: 3daysgone

Most of those things he's fighting, are problems he has caused due to a total lack of leadership ability. He's already hired and fired more people in his administration, than in the last 6 combined. And he still hasn't filled most positions.

a reply to: 3daysgone

Both sides have issues, the problem with just devolving everything to both sides are to blame, is that it diffuses responsibility, and ultimately does nothing. It's like saying both political parties suck. All that means is that you're making everything equal.

One side is objectively worse than the other. On the one hand here you have the KKK, Nazi's and rioters. On the other you have a bunch of victims... in this specific instance. At other times groups like BLM have gone off the rails.

When someone screws up, call them out for that specific circumstance. Any time you say everyone is at fault, all you're doing is excusing their behavior.

a reply to: Aazadan

Most of those things he's fighting, are problems he has caused due to a total lack of leadership ability. He's already hired and fired more people in his administration, than in the last 6 combined. And he still hasn't filled most positions.

What lack of leadership ability would that be?

He can hire and fire as many as he wants as far as I am concerned. That has nothing to do with leadership ability.

Why do you believe he hasn't filled those positions?

originally posted by: 3daysgone
What lack of leadership ability would that be?

The fact that he can't get anything done. He doesn't have a single major piece of legislation or part of his agenda passed yet. The closest thing to a success he has is a Supreme Court justice, and he didn't even do that one... he was handed it by the previous Congress.

He can hire and fire as many as he wants as far as I am concerned. That has nothing to do with leadership ability.

Why do you believe he hasn't filled those positions?

Most of the positions haven't been filled because he can't get anyone through Congress. His total lack of self control has created a situation where his party controls both the House and Senate, and yet are so hostile to him that even with all that power he can't put forward a reasonable nominee.

originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Two groups showed up with shields and clubs.

Only stupid people would claim either was innocent.

One group wants to commit genocide. The other group wants to stop genocide.

Only stupid people would claim both sides are the same.

Your simple wisdom cuts through everything!

I think it’s honorable to fight evil. Nazism and KKK is evil

These people are a part of a philosophy that would have murdered many of us on this forum