Berkeley Hot Dog Stand Fires Cook Seen At Charlottesville Protest

originally posted by: neo96
I am asking myself why people are honestly ignoring the bold in this post.

Because it isn't United States law.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Uh, no, they don't.

Well then it's PERFECTLY acceptable to FIRE everyone who attended BLM rallies.

Who said they couldn't?

a reply to: rickymouse

Exactly. That's what I've been saying. He was fired for his actions, not taking time off. And you are right, I wouldn't fire someone over their actions either, but the boss is the boss and he can fire you for any reason. Hence at will. That's what happened. You can disagree with his decision but it's still legal. Just like its legal for an employer to fire you for posting pictures of you binge drinking over the weekend with your friends on Facebook.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: neo96

Can you honestly not see how those two things aren't the same thing?

I am asking myself why people are honestly ignoring the bold in this post.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Since they are nazis equal protection for people we don't like don't matter for SNIP.

Since it's the entire IDEAL behind that LAW.

What protections were denied to him? I mean its like you purposely don't want to understand how at will employment works.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

UC Berkely is a private business that takes public money like ANY other business,

So get real.,

Established in 1868 as the University of California, resulting from the merger of the private College of California and the public Agricultural, Mining, and Mechanical Arts College in Oakland, Berkeley offers approximately 350 undergraduate and graduate degree programs in a wide range of disciplines.

en.wikipedia.org...

Which reminds me.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."

Hot Dog stand owners, and Berkeley staff and students need to fire and protest themselves.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

UC Berkely is a private business that takes public money like ANY other business,

So get real.,

Established in 1868 as the University of California, resulting from the merger of the private College of California and the public Agricultural, Mining, and Mechanical Arts College in Oakland, Berkeley offers approximately 350 undergraduate and graduate degree programs in a wide range of disciplines.

en.wikipedia.org...

Which reminds me.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."

Hot Dog stand owners, and Berkeley staff and students need to fire and protest themselves.

Lol. Are you really Neo96?

You are equating a lack of employment regulations with fascism.

Hell has frozen over.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Abysha

you said I called the employer a snowflake, you jumped to conclusions about my post and ran with it.

verifying my original point about snowflake over reactions.

Oh my word. This is what you said.

joy so now we get a snowflake over reaction to someone exercising their constitutional rights. 

Unless he committed a crime while there, or tried to say he was representing the company he worked for, he should not be fired.

Quit playing dumb.

This innocent act when defending Nazis on this site isn't fooling anybody other than other apologists.

You continue to assume you know what I typed and never once thought to ask Hey did you mean... instead you got offended commented and refuse to admit you may have mis-read my post.

He was doxed, this lead to him being fired...

I commented about a snowflake over reaction, and then how if he did nothing illegal I feel it was wrong to fire him.

a reply to: Abysha

Are those justify the firing of a 'nazi' really from the party of tolerance,compassion, and EQUAL RIGHTS ?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: xuenchen

That's the catch of "at will" employment. You can be fired for anything the employer feels like. Sucks for him, but I don't care because he is a racist.

"Right to work" States are the same way. They can fire us for any reason at all or for no reason at all. If only there were collective bargaining organizations that could protect workers from random changes in our employment contracts... though in this case, it's a good thing

originally posted by: neo96
Guess there are still a few folks that simply can't grasp the 14th.

How sad.

You mean like you? Lawsuits over the 14th proves gays are a protected class.
Fourteenth Amendment, Fundamental Rights, and Same-Sex Marriage
SNIP

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: xuenchen

That's the catch of "at will" employment. You can be fired for anything the employer feels like. Sucks for him, but I don't care because he is a racist.

"Right to work" States are the same way. They can fire us for any reason at all or for no reason at all. If only there were collective bargaining organizations that could protect workers from random changes in our employment contracts... though in this case, it's a good thing

I can't stop marveling at how a law that someone like Neo would support on any other day because it protects employers and is conservative in nature is somehow NOW unconstitutional because a nazi was fired for it.

You seriously can't make this SNIP up.

In the 1960s, UC Berkeley was particularly noted for the Free Speech Movement as well as the Anti-Vietnam War Movement led by its students.[22][23][24][25]

en.wikipedia.org...

50 years later.

BERKELEY (CBS SF) — A worker at a Berkeley hot dog chain has lost his job after being outed on social media as being one of the Charlottesville white supremacist protesters.

Penalized for exercising their right to SPEECH and ASSEMBLY.

God' bless the peoples republic of California.

a reply to: Abysha

I will do you one better, want to know why this doxxing over things that are not illegal but socially frowned upon is a bad idea.

The guy who originally owned the car that was used in the attack, had his name attached to the attack, even though he had no part in it.

Now its on the internet and once its there it is nearly impossible to get it off, lots of businesses check social media before hiring a person. This could cost the guy job opportunities in the future, or could lead to his being assaulted over something he had nothing to do with.

Yet folks like you are cheering this kind of behavior, which shows a distinct lack of comprehension of what freedom means.

As long as they do not break the law, I do not care if someone is a radical white person, or black person, or brown person, my freedom of speech is more important to me than your being offended over what someone thinks.

originally posted by: Grambler
Well the rioters on the left in groups like Antifa and BLM and other Anti trump people better watch out too, or they may be outed and lose their jobs.

Oh wait, they are already unemployed.

False equivalency alert!

a reply to: olaru12

I currently serve our country in the U.S. Army and I am in no way a racist nor am I a Nazi. I would never defend someone who espoused those types of views however they do have the right to their own view points and since I serve I must defend our Constitution per my oath...the same oath our family members pleged to defend, yes I have family who also fought in that ugly war, so let them espouce their ugly rhetoric and learn that it comes with consequences such as losing jobs, friends, and even family.

Imagine a march by a group of these people where no one showed up to oppose, no cameras or reporters. People closed their doors and windows and spent time with their own families instead of feeding hate with hate. They wouldn't do it for long if they received no response, no publicity, no hate to fuel their own twisted values.

They would return to obscurity where they belong but as long as we legitimize these groups with recognition other than denouncing them from afar they win but we as a free country can not outlaw stupidity as what you and I consider righteous could someday, God forbid be on that same list which belongs to the same people we opposed but provided a platform because we recognized them as legitimate and they gained power because of it.

We should ignore them and ostracized them back in the hole they crawled out of but should realize we will never eliminate stupidity as it is a trait in humanity that makes us human. Educate and osctracize and perhaps someday we will defeat but never have the power to eliminate hatred with more hatred.

a reply to: neo96

Who said that the Hot Dog Stand owner participated in those protests? You are making a false equivalency because you've lost the argument and just won't admit it.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Abysha

Are those justify the firing of a 'nazi' really from the party of tolerance,compassion, and EQUAL RIGHTS ?

YES!!! Good lord.

Are you even serious?

originally posted by: seagull
I don't know what rent is like in Berkeley...but that's gotta put a crimp in the ol' budget. This just doesn't ring true to me. Though I've been, God knows, wrong about these things before...

Well it is the SF Bay Area. To give you perspective In-n-Out Burger STARTS at 13-15 an hour here so its well within his means. Also rent is fierce and many simply commute 2 hours to get the wages but live in lower COL areas.

Rent is brutal FYI. A neighbor gets $1200 a month for a ROOM (No kitchen privileges either)

a reply to: Irishhaf

I haven't supported doxxing in this thread and the post of yours I responded to was not about doxxing.

It's obvious to anybody who read it.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

"Right to work" States are the same way. They can fire us for any reason at all or for no reason at all. If only there were collective bargaining organizations that could protect workers from random changes in our employment contracts... though in this case, it's a good thing

And Union protection only goes so far.

I'm local to this area BTW and have been watching the local coverage. He was fired specifically for the hate rally and employers can at their sole discretion terminate an employee for just about any reason.

From a business owners perspective, Your first amendment rights do not obligate me to commit financial suicide by keeping you employed. If your actions can impact me in a negative way, what incentive do I have to keep you as an employee?