The plane flying over Washington on 911

Ok so I asked in another thread but thought the 911 forum might be a better place to put this ,and see if the question has been answered before or if a new set of eyes with new data might help .

The original plane and responses The new data ...The flight was under the Treaty on Open Skies, which Russia, the United States and 32 other nations have signed ... seeing we have 32 other countries who could have been flying a plane over Washington legally then is it or was it a coincidence that they happened to be flying during 911....what say you ATS

The aircraft over Washington was one of four E-4B aircraft. It had nothing to do with Open Skies. There were two at Andrews that morning. They were part of a command post exercise to show how they would be used as communications and command nodes for the government. They have been positively identified and are US based out of Nebraska.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Has there been a official statement to that effect ? Was it in the 911 commissions report ?

a reply to: the2ofusr1

Yes it was in their report, I believe and it was identified by multiple people, including the news, after they figured it out. It's been awhile since I went through the report, but it was identified by multiple sources. No other nation uses a 747 in their military, except Iran.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Is there a catalog of the other 32 signatory countries types of planes they use ? That would be a great thread for you seeing you have tons of knowledge about the subject .

a reply to: the2ofusr1

It changes. They can use either an aircraft supplied by the nation being overflown, or their own. The US uses an OC-135 that is used by the UK as well, Canada uses a modified CC-130, Russia currently uses an AN-30 or Tu-154ON, but are replacing them with a Tu-214ON, Sweden uses a SAAB, Germany an A319, several former Soviet Bloc nations use An-30s. Wiki and other sites mention the aircraft.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I am guessing that it is well coordinated with both Govt's, at the time . Is there a site where all the data is available , past and future plans ?

a reply to: the2ofusr1

Yes it is. They don't really document it much for the public. It's more a catch as catch can on bad media reports about it.

They usually give a schedule for the year of dates they want to perform the flights, and areas they want to fly over. They fly into somewhere, either an airport or more likely a military base that they use as their home while they're there. They're met by a liaison group that flies with them, and all images taken are available to the host nation.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Is it just a transparency thing with restrictions ? Or a free for all ? ...Does wiki host the treaty and what is it called ?

a reply to: the2ofusr1

They're allowed to overfly any area in the host nation. It was designed for transparency, especially with regards to demilitarization of ICBMs and other long range missiles.

www.state.gov...

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The answer was right there in your video...What is the deal? You are asking a question already answered. It was one of our military planes. You should watch your videos again. Here is a link about it.

911review.com...



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originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: the2ofusr1



The answer was right there in your video...What is the deal? You are asking a question already answered. It was one of our military planes. You should watch your videos again. Here is a link about it.

911review.com...



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Never let evidence, eyewitnesses, and facts impede innuendo and speculation.

Never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

originally posted by: samkent
Never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

Or exploiting 9/11 for book sales, speaking tours, and radio shows.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Yes it was in their report, I believe and it was identified by multiple people, including the news, after they figured it out. It's been awhile since I went through the report, but it was identified by multiple sources. No other nation uses a 747 in their military, except Iran.

After rewatching the CNN vid they say that the plane was not mentioned in the 911 report .

a reply to: kurthall

What is the deal? You are asking a question already answered. It was one of our military planes

The vid suggests it was but the pentagon said it was not a military plane .

a reply to: the2ofusr1

It might not have been, I haven't looked at the report on awhile, but it was positively identified, including callsign, departure time from Andrews for both of them, flight path, etc. There is zero doubt that it is an E-4B, or that it had nothing to do with Open Skies.

a reply to: the2ofusr1

Because they don't talk about it. Until this year, if you didn't have a reason, you didn't get to see on board it.

www.af.mil...

en.m.wikipedia.org...

E-4B images

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thanks for the links ..interesting stuff .seeing there is one in the air 24/7 they must have a standard route they maintain I would think ...The main people of concern are actually on the ground . How is the transition supposed to work ? Its not like its a helicopter so would require a air base and such . But if you have been attacked then getting command into the air might be a problem I would think .

a reply to: the2ofusr1

There's not anymore. They keep one on ground alert with the battle staff nearby. They can be airborne in about 10 minutes if they have to. Currently three of the four are grounded.