NK threatens Guam with a Nuke Strike.....Again

a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah. That is sad.

a reply to: ketsuko

I don't think he's sane at all. Does anyone???

That's what makes him dangerous too. Crazy people do crazy stuff and that's a problem. But until they do you can't really do anything to them but keep an eye on them.

However, crazy people who are being watched seem to still get away with doing bad stuff much of the time, at least once.

But you bring up some good points to think about. That's pretty much what I'm doing too. Just kicking some ideas around.

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: mOjOm

and hit the waters 30 to 40 kilometers away from Guam

They are talking about a test firing of an ordinary missile.

Typical BS.

All countries fire off test missiles ... and they are allowed to. Or is this yet another round of do as the US says, not as we do.

WHere have NK stated it would be armed with a Nuke.

Just more stupid drivel.

P

Except it'll fly over Japan and and land within 20 miles of Guam.

That isn't drivel, that's a provocation straight to war.

a reply to: mOjOm

would fly 3,356.7 kilometers for 1,065 seconds

HAHAHA, North Korea apparently has a missile that travels at a speed of 7,189mph/11,569kph. China is stealing military tech from the wrong people, don't they know NK landed on the sun?

a reply to: mOjOm

Why would someone put an expensive nuke into a rocket and hope it gets to Guam?

Watch NK's 70+ sub fleet, NK can just put a nuke in the hold, sail into Tokyo Bay and push a button.

Solution: Offer submarine commanders and crews sylum and a bucket of cash.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Definitely agree, hands been dealt.

China is key here.

Trump via Tillerson removed many reasons for international community to disagree on tough NK policy stance - especially China.

China has lot more to lose with economic loss and disruption of open warfare on Korean Peninsula and region due business with SK and US.

China news recent threat on iPhone and agricultural imports shows they really don't have leverage many accredited them with.

I see enough news past year says theyre possibly economically precarious.

Trump just needs keep doing what he does and smoke Lil Kim out or make Lil Kim miscalculate by doing something physically belligerent.

We also have to remember that all the things said about NK being primitive, backwards and technically incapable were also said about the Japanese prior to December of 41' Word of caution to those who'd underestimate possible foe.

At some near point either China receives international accolades for solving NK nuclear issue or suffers condemnation for allowing it to occur.

I'm hoping they'll decide smart and go accolades.

If China takes the condemnation route we'll have to solve the problem to prevent something like an EMP attack which would be crippling and possibly lead to hundred million plus deaths.

Those are cards dealt by last seversl office holders before Trump.

Trump got handed their bucket of "snip"

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Why does NK do anything that it does??? I'll let you know when I know, until then my guess is "brain parasites".

Regardless of why, there may still be some ramifications for what they do and say which we still need to consider. Because it seems our leaders have taken it upon themselves to play a little game of "Who's gonna flinch first?" with them and the stakes are starting to sound high now.

The Hawks want to strike. Others want to talk. The President is threatening them back and NK shows no signs of stopping.

This has been an ongoing game for a while now too and people want it to end. It's just a question of how and who ends it.

a reply to: Phoenix

China may be key, but to be blunt, they have zero incentive to spank Kimmy further than they have. We haven't given them any financial reason to. If Trump had any trade tricks worth a damn left with China, he'd be using revoking trade deals as a bargaining chip for China getting on NK's ass more harshly. The problem isn't that we don't have anything to take away from the table -- we do -- the problem is that China owns too much of us in other manners that, if used as political leverage, could (and probably already is) bite us in the ass & negate that revocation threat. Poke them into a pissing match, and we can kiss a portion of ourselves right into their palms, with no recourse. They DO own 10% of the US' debt. They're not hanging on to it for a living room decoration.

Just want to say Trump has more restraint than I.

I'd threaten E.O., blockade, close, basically do whatever had to do to stop shipping from China to US until they delivered all NK nuclear program materials to port and loaded on US ships.

Anything not movable would be put under demolition.

China more than any country created this monster and needs to step up to the plate.

Solve it right quick.

Walmart would necessarily have to close - borrowing loosely words from past president - for the duration.

a reply to: Nyiah

Technically sure, in practice not so sure as one has to have an ability to actually collect on asset based debt.

Push to shove we've frozen assets of other nations before and other nations have nationalized much property owned by US companies. Nothing done but go international courts or sanctions or war.

Sure we'd have adverse economic impact but in China that impact could be revolutionary - something that government wants to avoid at all costs.

On balance economic card would weigh more in favor US.

originally posted by: 3daysgone
Would you rather we wait for them to hit first?

Yes. Us striking first leads to WWIII with China and Mutually Assured Destruction.

Them striking first leads to NK being turned into glass.

a reply to: Dudemo5

Do we wait until 200KT warhead goes off about 250-300 K above Kansas?

What level threat would be considered acceptable to wait for?

That's serious question - not provocation.

because the first thing you do before a strike is announce it and give exact coordinates and time... Not is playing the Trump like a puppet.

These people are NOT messing around.

a reply to: mOjOm

All nice. You just forgot to mention that the small fact that the NK pyramid is controlled by CIA from the top. Kim will strike probably to some close military station of US only when he is told to do so. And this will happen only when US intelligence feels that they need to move forces close to China for some reason. China won't like this, however. The problem might escalate, so attacking NK is very bold move from US. Ultimately this means direct threat to the Euroasian countries and almost us declaring war at them, (basically the ballistic threat is going to be too much after US go with its warships in the area), which is not like bombing a poor Arabic country without military arsenal... We're taking about China/Russia here. It they decide... it can get...HOT.

-Argent

a reply to: mOjOm

As I understand it they'll launch a multitude of missile that would be targeted to land 30-40km Off Guam.

This isn't an attack.

In fact, considering the nature of the region and the fact they plan to launch a multiple of missiles, it would appear they've done well to warn.

Will any be intercepted?

That's the question. Other than that it's just another test. Albeit a large one, with advanced warning I may add.

a reply to: RAY1990

Where is Green Peace? They get really pissed when marine life is hurt by missiles, garbage and the like.

Maybe Lil Kim is banking on the US stationing more troops at Gaum in the hope that it capsizes the Island

a reply to: carewemust

Probably busy wearing pirate outfits and ramming Japanese whaling boats.

I'd worry more about live fire operations at sea or the detrimental effect submarines have had on marine life if you really want to... Ya know, worry?