*Hunting the Fast Movers*... back to the past!

a reply to: 1947boomer
May be it was a possibility , with the rocket craft it is 2 fast movers crossing the sky .

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
Very interesting thread. This vehicle may be very active lately. Can hear it several times a month in many places.

Any speculation as to what it is?

Leaving aside any discussion of the photos, the witnesses are describing an air-launched, rocket propelled, maneuvering, hypersonic glider.

My guess is it's a Prompt Global Strike platform.

See, FYI,

en.m.wikipedia.org...

If its Global Strike I doubt it would be Nuclear..Would be more a surgical strike than to lay waste to a city type of deal..Im pretty sure the USA has bigger weapon systems out there that would do that without the mess a Nuke could do.

originally posted by: Blackfinger
If its Global Strike I doubt it would be Nuclear..Would be more a surgical strike than to lay waste to a city type of deal..Im pretty sure the USA has bigger weapon systems out there that would do that without the mess a Nuke could do.

I agree. The whole point of PGS is to be able to affect the outcome of strategic situations without having to go nuclear.

For example, suppose that that there was a liquid fueled ICBM on a launch pad in North Korea that took an hour to prepare for launch and you had a hypersonic vehicle that could launch from international waters and get there in 10 or 15 minutes and deliver a HE warhead to within a few meters. Then you can take out a nuclear weapon with a nonnuclear weapon.

originally posted by: GrumpyBollocks
a reply to: SpeedFanatic

From the events described to me, yes both platforms were manned, during one landing of the larger platform he mentioned aircrew being swapped, no other details really apart from there always being other US aircraft in the vicinity during recovery / takeoff

While telling about 'larger platform' do you mean about this bird? :

a reply to: 1947boomer
And it will look like a launch accident North Korean unable to see the bird coming Watch their #ing missile explode on the pad thinking an accident when the bird go away at a high rate of speed

a reply to: Kandinsky

i knew of mr simms but not of his ninja escapades, lol. much reading i have for today thank you

a reply to: SpeedFanatic

lockheedmartin.com...


there are other 71 that are not trainers but have a long nose, just thought id toss that out there again.

I took Photoshop and made a comparision of the OP image bird and SR-71. I gave numbers in the places of differences between these two birds. Here is how it looks like:


The image legend:
1. Rear undercarriage wheels: In this case both pictures seems to be almost identical. The rear wheels on the OP image aircraft and SR-71 seems to be placed exactly in the same place on the both of the aircraft.

2. Front undercarriage wheels: SR-71 has front undercarriage wheels about 8 feet behind canopy. The OP image bird has undercarriage just under canopy.

3. Cockpit canopy: SR-71 canopy is angular. The OP image bird has much more blended canopy, well integrated into aircraft body.

To me, both birds are different. Remember, Green Lady(according to Zaph) based on an older design shelved a while back so maybe history is repeating itself!

BTW, GrumpyBollocks where are you? lol

a reply to: BASSPLYR

the one in the thermal blanket tht was blinking and later he put in a freezer. the black trapezoid ship looked neat in the woods floating there

This few tidbits always intrigues me

Military personnel stationed at Yokota AB, Japan, have spotted what may be highly classified "black" aircraft that could be flying spy missions over North Korea. Two or three of the unknown aircraft appeared at Yokota periodically over the last year, flying night missions for 2-3 weeks at a time, then departing. USAF C-5 Galaxy transports may have accompanied the "black" aircraft. The latter were kept in special hangars, appearing only during night hours, and were described as "very fast." The unknown aircraft were smaller and more sleek than now-retired SR-71 Blackbirds, one observer said.”

And what about Meinrad Erberle’s sighting of a “Fastmover” taking off from Groom in 1999 (as featured in the March, 2000 issue of Aircraft Illustrated) or the sighting reports coming from military personnel coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan?

"...or the sighting reports coming from military personnel coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan?"

Now remember GrumpyBollocks comment:

originally posted by: GrumpyBollocks
a reply to: SpeedFanatic
As for the Tikaboo who knows, I'm sure the US had lots of one off experimental types flying at that time, maybe Tikaboo was evolved into something later, certainly a few interesting sightings were happening in the ME after 2000, we all witnessed seriously fast moving aircraft out in Afghan long after the 71's were retired but hey such is life, the name of the game in military life is compartmentalisation, only get fed the stuff you need to know.

Anyone knows these sighting reports coming from military personnel coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? Any links?

Interesting read

A little while back I posted about a vid of an interesting flying object, in the wierd ca sighting thread, well it was back last night.
As before it approached from the w-n/w.
This time i was already looking at the patch of sky it appeared in, and as in the past, it appears to just "wink" in. I mean one second there is nothing, then it was there. Its a bright steady state light, much like a motorcycle headlight at a distance.
And as before as it approaches it makes a wide shallow turn southward, but this time I was able to follow longer, and it appeared to s turn back to the north before i lost sight of it.
I was out waking the dog about 10pm this time so it was completely dark. There were several other aircraft in the sky at the time, so i got a sense of speed and altitude.
It was high and fast, only in sight for less than 60 seconds, it crossed the path of two airliners and a couple private planes.

What location was your sighting. Was there any noise from the other aircraft in the area. Was your sighting silent, or were all the aircraft too far away too hear them. What exact colour was your sighting, was it a bright white, or yellowish.

originally posted by: punkinworks10
Interesting read

A little while back I posted about a vid of an interesting flying object, in the wierd ca sighting thread, well it was back last night.
As before it approached from the w-n/w.
This time i was already looking at the patch of sky it appeared in, and as in the past, it appears to just "wink" in. I mean one second there is nothing, then it was there. Its a bright steady state light, much like a motorcycle headlight at a distance.
And as before as it approaches it makes a wide shallow turn southward, but this time I was able to follow longer, and it appeared to s turn back to the north before i lost sight of it.
I was out waking the dog about 10pm this time so it was completely dark. There were several other aircraft in the sky at the time, so i got a sense of speed and altitude.
It was high and fast, only in sight for less than 60 seconds, it crossed the path of two airliners and a couple private planes.

a reply to: punkinworks10
Have you seen the shape of the plane ?

a reply to: punkinworks10

Hey cool. Last year at 3am i saw a trio of those red lights heading westbound from land out and over the ocean. Three in a single file formation about a half a mile apart from each other. Then the middle one peels off and heads north in a long shallow turn like you described. The other two continuing straight on their course.

I describe them as stoplight red in color and steady state. Bright and small. They may be at altitude but not as high as you think.

Theyre too high to see the aircrafts shape or detect sound though.

Hey Bass, did they leave a contrail ?

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: punkinworks10

Hey cool. Last year at 3am i saw a trio of those red lights heading westbound from land out and over the ocean. Three in a single file formation about a half a mile apart from each other. Then the middle one peels off and heads north in a long shallow turn like you described. The other two continuing straight on their course.

I describe them as stoplight red in color and steady state. Bright and small. They may be at altitude but not as high as you think.

Theyre too high to see the aircrafts shape or detect sound though.

a reply to: nelloh62

No.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Gah, I give up then. I have no clue what they are

a reply to: nelloh62

They leave contrails when they descend through the altitudes contrails form at, but they're normally too high. Contrails only form in a fairly narrow window.

I was hoping if someone saw a contrail, we might have gotten an idea how many engines, i.e 1 2 or 4

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: nelloh62

They leave contrails when they descend through the altitudes contrails form at, but they're normally too high. Contrails only form in a fairly narrow window.