Aztec tower of human skulls uncovered

a reply to: RAY1990

I think there maybe further information to find, a coda or codices found in a vault would be beneficial to explain all of this !
but sadly most of it will be under peoples houses making it difficult to get to

I think the trick is to write a book or make a document which isnt digital which explains all of this to a future species
write them a book telling them that some of us werent complete #s and that some of us were actually nice and wanted to change things haha!

a reply to: veracity

Apparently the cloud could last for infinite, people would just have to figure out how to access it. No idea though.

And I'm pretty sure from now until our inevitable fall, we will have come up with some super micro nano type of memory that will have our entire history embedded in it.

Weird how it twists from saying that "gods" were making the sacrifice and yet thinking that they were sacrificing others to themselves... instead of themselves to others.

If a family of "gods" held immortality... then of course they would sacrifice themselves over and over again so that others may thrive.

The seven immortals and their families; the seven nations... all of them have pyramid structures.

The kings chamber was for rest and the queen received the visitors in the lower chamber and then at night their KA or spirit would enter the vessel or boat of the stars and be reborn the next dawn.

Of course dogmas aside? The myths and legends still hold... eventually over time kings/queens were represented for such a thing as the history was buried in the sands of time, and the blood lines were kept so close in some of them? That inbreeding was prevalent... hence blue blood from heart disorders etc.

What others typically did not realize is the constant battle to keep and make peace with all life in the area due to the ignorance of those destroying it for whatever purpose... so as a sacrifice they took all of the pain and suffering and were reborn as the sun rose and died as the sun set as the hostile energies devoured and then vouch safed them back into form yet again for such a sacrifice.

Not an easy path, for the ego must die so that all life can flow like a river... but ignorance dams it up in greed and then hate for the abundance that others have accumulated through that greed. Over time empathy and compassion grows out of such paths and love is all that remains... long suffering in all life being equal.

Eventually, the yuga changes in cycle and the sort that lays down arms made for greed and hate, and moves towards artisan and equal share arises. That lasts for a very long time once it occurs... and then it starts degrading as those that have made such a sacrifice enter forever into the great flow if the lineages are not kept properly the other ages start ushering in and the sign of this is where murder again starts taking place.

However this sort of cycle is always in rotation of those rising and falling in order to make such sacrifice... now in Kali yuga? It means the earth and the mother has had enough of supporting all of this pain and suffering out of ignorance. So the karmic retribution becomes a bit more immediate in cleaning out the storehouses of hells created from all of that greed/hate and delusion from that long term of ignorance.

Pools of blood, stacked skulls when such are in a divine union giving divine birth those cannot keep up fast enough in clearing it out and bloodies stack and the earth renews.

It is said in legend and lore that all of the blood etc spilled in such ignorance on battlefields etc is absorbed as a sacrifice and turns into fine gemstones... these radiate out an energy of peace in a attempt to make the area thoughtful and solemn and more peaceful as a whole. The idea that one life is above or below another, is the ignorance that must be removed. That inner and outer is a different thing, when they are the same and mirror each other.

When the eye sees the same inner and outer in peace clarity and wisdom? Where is an inner and outer bias towards anything to be found? There is life contained in both which are one in many various forms. The attachment to concepts or knowledge however just builds tower after tower of babble that gets no where but imaginary castles in the sky. Life... is all within and all around. Ignorance makes it different.

If not for the purpose of greed, hate and that delusion then such a thing would finally come to peace as a whole... however, it takes like everything else time, patience and like any parent? Understanding, for one has bit of the same fruit before they finally understood that none of that biting is required and only leads to more suffering to life itself as a whole.

That is the very ground of being and reality as the force of life itself, and that... that goes round and round? The poison from one ear to another mouth that does not lead to life but yet more and more death falling down into more and more ignorance.

Mind you... none of what was said here. Can be grasped as life because it must be communicated on that scale of concept that is the false or delusional reality.

So please disregard any and all of this as if grasped and not known as reality in simple knowing as awareness? You too will get poisoned by philosophy instead of direct awareness of being.

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Maybe they got struck by an epidemic and tens of thousands of them, women, children and men, went to the afterworld. Since they were all dead and the survivors inherited thousands of dead bodies within weeks, someone had the crazy idea of erecting a pyramid in memory of their loved ones.

Perhaps, the severing of heads, was a ritual to let go of the attachment towards the deceased one. All cultures have rituals that they perform before letting go. Some burn on a pyre, some bury, some remove organs and mummify. So what's different between removing organs from a decease'd body and severing their heads.

It was the perfect monument, all their loved ones looking at them with a layer of earth and plants neatly manicured and planted on top,

Who knows what is true, our history is awash with conspiracy theories, distorted stories and lately fake news. Proper unbiased and unmanipulated archeology will tell us the real story. How the skulls were laid, neatly or just thrown in a pile, could give us a clue.

Just saying...

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

all kind of scary and gruesome

Is there a psychic on this board that can tell what happened?

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

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New Finds all over Ancient Mexico and Central and South America
Have Been Popping Up in the last Few Years

originally posted by: rickymouse
Woman and children skulls in there too. Maybe it is not a warrior display, maybe these are the skulls of the residents of the city. Maybe they developed a tradition of having your skull put into cement after you died in that tomb.

I do not believe the old Spanish, they wanted to make the people in Spain believe they were killing bad people over here, they used anything they could to justify their killing of people to steal what they owned. Unless I see evidence to definitely prove the Spanish's claim about this, which is pretty impossible since they destroyed everything after looting it, I will not believe the Spanish writings about any of the Indians here in America.

These Spanish needed to justify killing to the Church. They could fabricate evidence, they made everyone believe that nobody could trust these people if they said anything. The Spanish were not the only ones that did this, many powerful nations did the same thing all over the world, looting what was valuable and destroying evidence, then reconditioning the woman and children to believe what they say is real. This is not a church thing, this is a common human tactic of the past. We call it propaganda today, we still do this kind of stuff today.

It would appear that there are the most uncomprehensible efforts to whitewash the Aztecs, even if mass graves and discovering of corpses with forensic evidence of heart-ripping amongst other things was not proof enough that these people were just plain evil.

It is also conveniently forgotten that:

1- Most of the Indians allied with Cortés because they were beyond fed up of Aztec (in fact, Mexica"n") abuse
2- There was no need to justify anything, you just went and take the land. Nobody cared about war crimes and propaganda was definitely not a thing when the only ones propaganda could be directed at were the ones in need of directing propaganda efforts.
3- The idea that our people staged such a thing to the point of piling up skeletons and skulls so, if they were to ever be found, could eventually prove they were right all along is preposterous

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse
Woman and children skulls in there too. Maybe it is not a warrior display, maybe these are the skulls of the residents of the city. Maybe they developed a tradition of having your skull put into cement after you died in that tomb.

I do not believe the old Spanish, they wanted to make the people in Spain believe they were killing bad people over here, they used anything they could to justify their killing of people to steal what they owned. Unless I see evidence to definitely prove the Spanish's claim about this, which is pretty impossible since they destroyed everything after looting it, I will not believe the Spanish writings about any of the Indians here in America.

These Spanish needed to justify killing to the Church. They could fabricate evidence, they made everyone believe that nobody could trust these people if they said anything. The Spanish were not the only ones that did this, many powerful nations did the same thing all over the world, looting what was valuable and destroying evidence, then reconditioning the woman and children to believe what they say is real. This is not a church thing, this is a common human tactic of the past. We call it propaganda today, we still do this kind of stuff today.

It would appear that there are the most uncomprehensible efforts to whitewash the Aztecs, even if mass graves and discovering of corpses with forensic evidence of heart-ripping amongst other things was not proof enough that these people were just plain evil.

It is also conveniently forgotten that:

1- Most of the Indians allied with Cortés because they were beyond fed up of Aztec (in fact, Mexica"n") abuse
2- There was no need to justify anything, you just went and take the land. Nobody cared about war crimes and propaganda was definitely not a thing when the only ones propaganda could be directed at were the ones in need of directing propaganda efforts.
3- The idea that our people staged such a thing to the point of piling up skeletons and skulls so, if they were to ever be found, could eventually prove they were right all along is preposterous

Remember, the Spanish were treated as friends when they first came. Then they brought back the corn to their country and many people wound up with Palagra from not eating the companion hot niacin chemistry. Then since the Explorers forgot to tell their people that they needed to eat the hot peppers, they covered up their mistake by going back and killing all of the people that gave them the corn with the blessing of the church.

History is way different than it is in the US history textbooks, and also columbus did not discover America.

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse
Woman and children skulls in there too. Maybe it is not a warrior display, maybe these are the skulls of the residents of the city. Maybe they developed a tradition of having your skull put into cement after you died in that tomb.

I do not believe the old Spanish, they wanted to make the people in Spain believe they were killing bad people over here, they used anything they could to justify their killing of people to steal what they owned. Unless I see evidence to definitely prove the Spanish's claim about this, which is pretty impossible since they destroyed everything after looting it, I will not believe the Spanish writings about any of the Indians here in America.

These Spanish needed to justify killing to the Church. They could fabricate evidence, they made everyone believe that nobody could trust these people if they said anything. The Spanish were not the only ones that did this, many powerful nations did the same thing all over the world, looting what was valuable and destroying evidence, then reconditioning the woman and children to believe what they say is real. This is not a church thing, this is a common human tactic of the past. We call it propaganda today, we still do this kind of stuff today.

It would appear that there are the most uncomprehensible efforts to whitewash the Aztecs, even if mass graves and discovering of corpses with forensic evidence of heart-ripping amongst other things was not proof enough that these people were just plain evil.

It is also conveniently forgotten that:

1- Most of the Indians allied with Cortés because they were beyond fed up of Aztec (in fact, Mexica"n") abuse
2- There was no need to justify anything, you just went and take the land. Nobody cared about war crimes and propaganda was definitely not a thing when the only ones propaganda could be directed at were the ones in need of directing propaganda efforts.
3- The idea that our people staged such a thing to the point of piling up skeletons and skulls so, if they were to ever be found, could eventually prove they were right all along is preposterous

Remember, the Spanish were treated as friends when they first came. Then they brought back the corn to their country and many people wound up with Palagra from not eating the companion hot niacin chemistry. Then since the Explorers forgot to tell their people that they needed to eat the hot peppers, they covered up their mistake by going back and killing all of the people that gave them the corn with the blessing of the church.

History is way different than it is in the US history textbooks, and also columbus did not discover America.

1- I'm not american
2- Columbus did discover America, even if he wasn't the first to arrive there which is obvious he wasn't.
3- Cortés and his men did not came back to Spain until after the conquest, and did so because he didn't wanted to accept Moctezuma as a rightful vassal due to the gruesome pagan customs of the mexicas. The king would be perfectly fine with them just as vassals, unbeknownst to him how much of monsters they were, but Cortés knew better and almost commited treason by ignoring self-declared oath of submission to Charles V by Moctezuma and waging war against them. He knew they were just buying time, and he (Cortés) had the high ground with Mayans and Toltecs to actually pacify the land instead of admit an spurious alliance with the mexicas, whom they knew by all accounts of both Mayans and Toltecs, were a bunch of treasonous pricks.

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse
Woman and children skulls in there too. Maybe it is not a warrior display, maybe these are the skulls of the residents of the city. Maybe they developed a tradition of having your skull put into cement after you died in that tomb.

I do not believe the old Spanish, they wanted to make the people in Spain believe they were killing bad people over here, they used anything they could to justify their killing of people to steal what they owned. Unless I see evidence to definitely prove the Spanish's claim about this, which is pretty impossible since they destroyed everything after looting it, I will not believe the Spanish writings about any of the Indians here in America.

These Spanish needed to justify killing to the Church. They could fabricate evidence, they made everyone believe that nobody could trust these people if they said anything. The Spanish were not the only ones that did this, many powerful nations did the same thing all over the world, looting what was valuable and destroying evidence, then reconditioning the woman and children to believe what they say is real. This is not a church thing, this is a common human tactic of the past. We call it propaganda today, we still do this kind of stuff today.

It would appear that there are the most uncomprehensible efforts to whitewash the Aztecs, even if mass graves and discovering of corpses with forensic evidence of heart-ripping amongst other things was not proof enough that these people were just plain evil.

It is also conveniently forgotten that:

1- Most of the Indians allied with Cortés because they were beyond fed up of Aztec (in fact, Mexica"n") abuse
2- There was no need to justify anything, you just went and take the land. Nobody cared about war crimes and propaganda was definitely not a thing when the only ones propaganda could be directed at were the ones in need of directing propaganda efforts.
3- The idea that our people staged such a thing to the point of piling up skeletons and skulls so, if they were to ever be found, could eventually prove they were right all along is preposterous

Remember, the Spanish were treated as friends when they first came. Then they brought back the corn to their country and many people wound up with Palagra from not eating the companion hot niacin chemistry. Then since the Explorers forgot to tell their people that they needed to eat the hot peppers, they covered up their mistake by going back and killing all of the people that gave them the corn with the blessing of the church.

History is way different than it is in the US history textbooks, and also columbus did not discover America.

1- I'm not american
2- Columbus did discover America, even if he wasn't the first to arrive there which is obvious he wasn't.
3- Cortés and his men did not came back to Spain until after the conquest, and did so because he didn't wanted to accept Moctezuma as a rightful vassal due to the gruesome pagan customs of the mexicas. The king would be perfectly fine with them just as vassals, unbeknownst to him how much of monsters they were, but Cortés knew better and almost commited treason by ignoring self-declared oath of submission to Charles V by Moctezuma and waging war against them. He knew they were just buying time, and he (Cortés) had the high ground with Mayans and Toltecs to actually pacify the land instead of admit an spurious alliance with the mexicas, whom they knew by all accounts of both Mayans and Toltecs, were a bunch of treasonous pricks.

It is nice to know that the US does not have the only History books that are full of BS, Do some research, if you really get into it you can find actual history documents that describe what was happening. I kind of went overboard one week and viewed some real history writings. A general understanding of the Churches of the time is necessary to figure out what was going on. Thank god that the Catholic Church is not like that anymore.

And, Columbus did not discover America, it was mapped out well by the Norwegians who came here frequently and even the British were settled here long before Columbus. That is right in some of the British history.

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse
Woman and children skulls in there too. Maybe it is not a warrior display, maybe these are the skulls of the residents of the city. Maybe they developed a tradition of having your skull put into cement after you died in that tomb.

I do not believe the old Spanish, they wanted to make the people in Spain believe they were killing bad people over here, they used anything they could to justify their killing of people to steal what they owned. Unless I see evidence to definitely prove the Spanish's claim about this, which is pretty impossible since they destroyed everything after looting it, I will not believe the Spanish writings about any of the Indians here in America.

These Spanish needed to justify killing to the Church. They could fabricate evidence, they made everyone believe that nobody could trust these people if they said anything. The Spanish were not the only ones that did this, many powerful nations did the same thing all over the world, looting what was valuable and destroying evidence, then reconditioning the woman and children to believe what they say is real. This is not a church thing, this is a common human tactic of the past. We call it propaganda today, we still do this kind of stuff today.

It would appear that there are the most uncomprehensible efforts to whitewash the Aztecs, even if mass graves and discovering of corpses with forensic evidence of heart-ripping amongst other things was not proof enough that these people were just plain evil.

It is also conveniently forgotten that:

1- Most of the Indians allied with Cortés because they were beyond fed up of Aztec (in fact, Mexica"n") abuse
2- There was no need to justify anything, you just went and take the land. Nobody cared about war crimes and propaganda was definitely not a thing when the only ones propaganda could be directed at were the ones in need of directing propaganda efforts.
3- The idea that our people staged such a thing to the point of piling up skeletons and skulls so, if they were to ever be found, could eventually prove they were right all along is preposterous

Remember, the Spanish were treated as friends when they first came. Then they brought back the corn to their country and many people wound up with Palagra from not eating the companion hot niacin chemistry. Then since the Explorers forgot to tell their people that they needed to eat the hot peppers, they covered up their mistake by going back and killing all of the people that gave them the corn with the blessing of the church.

History is way different than it is in the US history textbooks, and also columbus did not discover America.

1- I'm not american
2- Columbus did discover America, even if he wasn't the first to arrive there which is obvious he wasn't.
3- Cortés and his men did not came back to Spain until after the conquest, and did so because he didn't wanted to accept Moctezuma as a rightful vassal due to the gruesome pagan customs of the mexicas. The king would be perfectly fine with them just as vassals, unbeknownst to him how much of monsters they were, but Cortés knew better and almost commited treason by ignoring self-declared oath of submission to Charles V by Moctezuma and waging war against them. He knew they were just buying time, and he (Cortés) had the high ground with Mayans and Toltecs to actually pacify the land instead of admit an spurious alliance with the mexicas, whom they knew by all accounts of both Mayans and Toltecs, were a bunch of treasonous pricks.

It is nice to know that the US does not have the only History books that are full of BS, Do some research, if you really get into it you can find actual history documents that describe what was happening. I kind of went overboard one week and viewed some real history writings. A general understanding of the Churches of the time is necessary to figure out what was going on. Thank god that the Catholic Church is not like that anymore.

And, Columbus did not discover America, it was mapped out well by the Norwegians who came here frequently and even the British were settled here long before Columbus. That is right in some of the British history.

If you refer to the vikings as "norwegians" only God knows to whom may you be referring to as "the british", with in sum underlines your whole knoledge about history, which is questionable at best. You didn't even bothered to discuss my points, at that.

And, if the Vikings, and, more implausibly, the Saxons or the Irish or whoever called the British Islands home at the time did arrive there, and even map it, but have had not any impact at all in America nor Europe, they may very well not arrived.

But I will concede you something: Colón, or Columbus, was very well aware of those lands by different accounts, and figured it out that it shall be a whole new continent, but sold the idea of an alternative route to Asia through a severe misestimation of the earth size (which was well known at the time, as it was its sphericity) so he could profit of it. He was a clever man.

According to wikipedia they sacrificed humans to repay their debts to 'the gods'

But religion isn't dangerous according to most people on this forum.

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: ElZorro

originally posted by: rickymouse
Woman and children skulls in there too. Maybe it is not a warrior display, maybe these are the skulls of the residents of the city. Maybe they developed a tradition of having your skull put into cement after you died in that tomb.

I do not believe the old Spanish, they wanted to make the people in Spain believe they were killing bad people over here, they used anything they could to justify their killing of people to steal what they owned. Unless I see evidence to definitely prove the Spanish's claim about this, which is pretty impossible since they destroyed everything after looting it, I will not believe the Spanish writings about any of the Indians here in America.

These Spanish needed to justify killing to the Church. They could fabricate evidence, they made everyone believe that nobody could trust these people if they said anything. The Spanish were not the only ones that did this, many powerful nations did the same thing all over the world, looting what was valuable and destroying evidence, then reconditioning the woman and children to believe what they say is real. This is not a church thing, this is a common human tactic of the past. We call it propaganda today, we still do this kind of stuff today.

It would appear that there are the most uncomprehensible efforts to whitewash the Aztecs, even if mass graves and discovering of corpses with forensic evidence of heart-ripping amongst other things was not proof enough that these people were just plain evil.

It is also conveniently forgotten that:

1- Most of the Indians allied with Cortés because they were beyond fed up of Aztec (in fact, Mexica"n") abuse
2- There was no need to justify anything, you just went and take the land. Nobody cared about war crimes and propaganda was definitely not a thing when the only ones propaganda could be directed at were the ones in need of directing propaganda efforts.
3- The idea that our people staged such a thing to the point of piling up skeletons and skulls so, if they were to ever be found, could eventually prove they were right all along is preposterous

Remember, the Spanish were treated as friends when they first came. Then they brought back the corn to their country and many people wound up with Palagra from not eating the companion hot niacin chemistry. Then since the Explorers forgot to tell their people that they needed to eat the hot peppers, they covered up their mistake by going back and killing all of the people that gave them the corn with the blessing of the church.

History is way different than it is in the US history textbooks, and also columbus did not discover America.

1- I'm not american
2- Columbus did discover America, even if he wasn't the first to arrive there which is obvious he wasn't.
3- Cortés and his men did not came back to Spain until after the conquest, and did so because he didn't wanted to accept Moctezuma as a rightful vassal due to the gruesome pagan customs of the mexicas. The king would be perfectly fine with them just as vassals, unbeknownst to him how much of monsters they were, but Cortés knew better and almost commited treason by ignoring self-declared oath of submission to Charles V by Moctezuma and waging war against them. He knew they were just buying time, and he (Cortés) had the high ground with Mayans and Toltecs to actually pacify the land instead of admit an spurious alliance with the mexicas, whom they knew by all accounts of both Mayans and Toltecs, were a bunch of treasonous pricks.

It is nice to know that the US does not have the only History books that are full of BS, Do some research, if you really get into it you can find actual history documents that describe what was happening. I kind of went overboard one week and viewed some real history writings. A general understanding of the Churches of the time is necessary to figure out what was going on. Thank god that the Catholic Church is not like that anymore.

And, Columbus did not discover America, it was mapped out well by the Norwegians who came here frequently and even the British were settled here long before Columbus. That is right in some of the British history.

If you refer to the vikings as "norwegians" only God knows to whom may you be referring to as "the british", with in sum underlines your whole knoledge about history, which is questionable at best. You didn't even bothered to discuss my points, at that.

And, if the Vikings, and, more implausibly, the Saxons or the Irish or whoever called the British Islands home at the time did arrive there, and even map it, but have had not any impact at all in America nor Europe, they may very well not arrived.

But I will concede you something: Colón, or Columbus, was very well aware of those lands by different accounts, and figured it out that it shall be a whole new continent, but sold the idea of an alternative route to Asia through a severe misestimation of the earth size (which was well known at the time, as it was its sphericity) so he could profit of it. He was a clever man.

In the history archives of the USA, there is a record of someone trying to communicate with an Indian in Maine I think. When someone attempted to talk to the Indian they got someone to help. The Indian was speaking Old English. That was in the fifteen hundreds. His English seemed to have been a few generations removed according to the person who was translate him. This information is in the US archives. Someone had taught the old English to the Indians there. Long before that time. According to what was said in the article, the Indian told them that there were a lot of people there, Indians, but a plague or something had apparently killed them off. The crops of corn and other things were all planted, but there weren't any Indians there, they had died months earlier, the Indian they were talking to had just come back from somewhere down south and did not know exactly what had happened.

I think the English were in control of that area, but there is a record of it in the US history archives, that is where I read about it.