judge declares mistrial in cosby case

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I stand corrected that it was one woman, but it still doesn't make him any less of a scumbag.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

No, we are talking about a mistrial because of a hung jury, not for any other reason. The government is using double jeopardy against the people when it is forbidden, it is that simple. There is no basis for a new jury in common law, at all. Prosecutors can't search out a jury of their liking to get a conviction. Heck, in the olden days, they drew by lot, no interview, no nothing, and more than likely, everyone of them knew you (which is why an injury to reputation is a tort).
You might look at this case and say, good, try him again and throw him in jail. But don't be fooled, the same happens to innocent people every single day. And it is a disgrace.

a reply to: craterman

You need to take your objections up with the Supreme Court which ruled close to 200 years ago that retrial in the case of a hung jury is Constitutional.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I stand corrected that it was one woman, but it still doesn't make him any less of a scumbag.

hey now
it was 30 years ago and he only admitted to giving 1 woman lemons

lets cut the poor guy some slack

hahaha

a reply to: craterman

Sorry you said once the jury sits the case can not be retried. That's what you said. Are you now saying the case can be retried depending on what happens? That I agree with. A hung jury is one of those things.

a reply to: TinySickTears

He should be in jail solely on his crap stand up routine.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Preaching to the choir, I agree, and think he is likely guilty of rape. I share your sentiment and was only wanting to correct shoddy journalism.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

No worries. Appreciate the help.

www.cnn.com...

"Did you ever give any of those young women the Quaaludes without their knowledge?" Troiani asked. Cosby's attorney objected and told him not to answer the question.

the lawyer told him not to answer so he took the lawyers advice

While Cosby admitted that he acquired seven prescriptions of Quaaludes with the intent to give the sedatives to young women he wanted to have sex with, he has not admitted to actually drugging any of his accusers. He did say he gave drugs to "other people," but when Troiani began to ask Cosby if he gave other people Quaaludes knowing they were illegal, Cosby's attorney interjected and said that his client acknowledged giving them only to a woman whose name is redacted. Cosby later testified that he "misunderstood. Woman, meaning (the woman whose name is redacted), not women" -- even though Troiani had used neither word in her question. "You gave them to other people?" Troiani had previously asked, to which the comedian replied, "Yes."

i cant believe people are arguing in this assholes favor

he admits to gtting a gang of ludes to give to women but stops at saying he did when the lawyer steps in

Several women allege Cosby used cappuccino, soft drinks, wine or other beverages as vehicles to drug them, but accusers Constand, Serignese, Janice Dickinson, Tamara Green, Victoria Valentino, Donna Motsinger and a woman identified only as Chelan have alleged Cosby gave them capsules or pills -- sometimes billing them as medication -- before assaulting them.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Likely because he did. But likely just doesn't cut it.

a reply to: TinySickTears

I dont like Cosby. Never have. If he is a rapist, which its looking like it from where I stand, then do what we do to him.

The argument of being put through this as punishment could be valid. It wouldnt be the first time someone was made out to be a sexual deviant as a form of revenge. Thats what gets me about the way peoples reputations are destroyed before the facts are heard.

Still, I would like to wait before spit balling too much about what could be.

Also, Yolandi is a Goddess.

I can't understand all the comments on here that are making out it is some kind of witch hunt in the media. Race had nothing to do with it. Celebrity has nothing to do with it. Rape has everything to do with it.

A lot of this 'alleged' offences happened in the 70's to 90's and given the statute of limitations (which as a Brit I find bizarre) most can't be prosecuted.

The extent and scope of prosecution of rape charges has changed beyond recognition in the last 40 years. Consent is everything- whether drunk, high, mentally incapacitated or too scared to say no or stop. Raping a drunk girl - no, rape within marriage - no, sex to avoid violence - no. No means bloody no and if you are unable to consent and it carries on the bloke is scum. As Calvin Harris said it was acceptable in the 80's.

Thankfully things have changed and the things some unscrupulous fellas got upto back then will now see you labelled a rapist and serving a stretch. Rightly so.

Again and again these celebs are getting away with allegations of abuse. A settlement out of court is an indication of guilt. Allegations do not go away until proven false in a court of law by a jury of peers. What is the make up of the jury? If America is 66% identifying as white what is the make up- you know to ensure fairness?

If there is a queue of 30+ women saying he did it to me. Admissions in front of a judge that he used this 'technique' then what is the public to think. Should his 'legend' stand unchallenged?

Why should people and their estates continue to be celebrated after these allegations? Would love to hear in detail from all the victims. Would love to hear from Jordy Chandler.

Never going to happen, silenced by the millions of celebrity.

Sad day - retrial please.

End to rape

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: TinySickTears

I dont like Cosby. Never have. If he is a rapist, which its looking like it from where I stand, then do what we do to him.

The argument of being put through this as punishment could be valid. It wouldnt be the first time someone was made out to be a sexual deviant as a form of revenge. Thats what gets me about the way peoples reputations are destroyed before the facts are heard.

Still, I would like to wait before spit balling too much about what could be.

Also, Yolandi is a Goddess.

my opinion.
hit him in the pocket.
if proven then make him pay the victims some money
jail dont mean # when you are 900 and one foot in the grave anyway.

hit the bank account...

and yeah
yolandi for life

originally posted by: craterman
Jeopardy of the defendant begins when the jury is seated, so when a second jury is seated, THAT is double jeopardy! Regardless weather Cosby is innocent or guilty, this BS of continually trying a case is just that BS. In common law, the prosecutor has abandoned the case. The defendant should have objected at the judge declaring a mistrial. Guilty in a criminal case is 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. Obviously the jury seated sees 'reasonable doubt'. In common law this fact prevented a malicious prosecution because even a hung jury ended the matter forever. Our 'legal system' has turned into a for profit (even prisons for profit) tool of enrichment. From family court with its federal matching funds to the victim-less made up drug crimes of the legislatures with its prisons for profit. It is a satanic, disgusting mess!!

Bravo!!! This is exactly right. If even one juror votes not guilty, then guilt has NOT been proven beyond a reasonable doubt -- OBVIOUSLY. Therefore, there is no mistrial... the prosecution failed to prove guilt and a second trial is, by definition, "double jeopardy."

originally posted by: Boadicea
Bravo!!! This is exactly right. If even one juror votes not guilty, then guilt has NOT been proven beyond a reasonable doubt -- OBVIOUSLY. Therefore, there is no mistrial... the prosecution failed to prove guilt and a second trial is, by definition, "double jeopardy."

The Supreme Court says you are very wrong.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Wouldn't be the first time the Supreme Court was wrong.

Heck, even the Supreme Court has decided the Supreme Court was wrong ...

List of Court decisions overturned by later Courts

According to the list it has overruled itself eleven times on double jeopardy alone!

Has anyone heard what the Jury vote was?


They usually tell us that. Was it 7 for acquittal and five for conviction, something like that

originally posted by: Montana
Wouldn't be the first time the Supreme Court was wrong.

Except they are not wrong since the case in question has been legal precedent for close to 200 years. For them to be 'wrong' someone needs to challenge the ruling and have it reversed which doesn't appear likely to occur.

With almost 30 woman saying Cosby sexually molested them it certainly looks like he’s guilty of something.
Maybe so…But

…Listen to this and you may look at this in a different light



Everybody is entitled to a defense.

I recently had an experience where my boss lied about me and almost got me fired.

Indeed one has to be falsely accused of something to learn how it feels and that it happens often

a reply to: Willtell

i was going to give it a listen but it is a god damn hour long

i will just continue to think he is mr raper
works for me