Top-Secret NSA Report Details Russian Hacking Effort Days Before 2016 Election

originally posted by: imitator

originally posted by: Liquesence

This thread is about a Russian attempt to undermine the US democratic process.

It's a good thing Russia didn't undermine the US democratic process or we might of been stuck with Killery.

Yes.
The Russians would have had an easily manipulated US President in Hillary.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: introvert

Let's stick to the leaked document and how this progresses.

Where is there to go with it?

The trial and potential conviction of the leaker.

Also, the current investigations that may determine Russia had a part to play in affecting the election.

We have to be willing to assess all avenues at this point.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

Still, at least we can turn attention to a leaker being arrested.

The leaker would not of been arrested if they did not leak a real document.

Unless the whole episode is a clever psy-ops.

So, the NSA has a report?

Please show that any state after the election reported voter fraud as a result of a cyberattack?

There have been just four documented cases of voter fraud in the 2016 election
www.washingtonpost.com...

There wasn't evidence of widespread voter fraud before the election. There isn't evidence of widespread voter fraud kafterward, either. In fact, there's not evidence of even modest voter fraud.

Russia's role is shocking but there's no evidence the vote was hacked
www.cnn.com...


US recounts find no evidence of hacking in Trump win but reveal vulnerabilities
www.theguardian.com...

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There is no evidence of a successful cyberattack to change votes in the US presidential election, according to a crowdfunded effort to recount the vote in key states, but the review also highlighted the unprecedented extent to which the American political system is vulnerable to cyberattack, according to two computer scientists who helped the effort to audit the vote.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: introvert

Let's stick to the leaked document and how this progresses.

Where is there to go with it?

Well...with the weekend London attack out of the way...CNN can continue to fuel it's viewers' manufactured outrage for a couple more days until Comey testifies.

Fills the gap between London and Comey very nicely.

BTW: Didn't someone here post that this leaker worked for CNN?

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

Still, at least we can turn attention to a leaker being arrested.

The leaker would not of been arrested if they did not leak a real document.

Unless the whole episode is a clever psy-ops.

I was thinking that Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested because killed the President.

That's what the spooks wanted everyone to think, anyway.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

Still, at least we can turn attention to a leaker being arrested.

The leaker would not of been arrested if they did not leak a real document.

Unless the whole episode is a clever psy-ops.

Using a conspiracy as a political crutch is not clever.

Try harder, Fox.

Your not clever, you're insulting our intelligence.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

Looks like a real document to me

That points to Russia. Will you concede on that, or do we have to link back to the document that mentions Russia, that you say does not point to Russia?

It's good to be focusing on the leaker - I don't think they can get her for treason, but a decent jail term is on the cards.

Sure. Deflect from the document and focus on the leaker. She will get her just desserts, but that still leaves the meat of the document to be addressed.

There is no 'meat' to the document. It basically says that govt and corporate entities were the subject of cyber attacks. Not unusual - several states have already reported hack attempts their election systems. They accused the Democrats, but didn't provide any evidence either.

I don;t think it is meat in your sandwich, rather something a little more nasty.

originally posted by: PDXEX
a reply to: gimcrackery

No, it's a serious and intolerable attack on the United States just as surely as 9/11 was.
It MUST be exposed and dealt with.We are a sovereign Nation, Russia is proving to be a dangerous enemy.
Naive Americans, most are YOUNG UNINFORMED AMERICANS, have been propagandized into approving of this.
It has NOTHING to do with Hillary! You are just sadly, doing what you are told by forces that do NOT have America's best interests in mind!
AND, save the "we do it to" argument. That's an irrelevant one.

But Obama laughed at Romney...

"Russia is our number one geopolitical enemy."
- Mitt Romney

Everyone was so cool because they laughed with Obama.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: UKTruth

LOL

Why does it look to me that the document you're referencing indicates that the NSA was working WITH Russia to affect the 2016 election result? I thought Hillary was a shoe-in for winning.

a reply to: carewemust


If I had to guess? It may be because you share the same holster that President Trump does when replying to almost anything.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

Looks like a real document to me

That points to Russia. Will you concede on that, or do we have to link back to the document that mentions Russia, that you say does not point to Russia?

It's good to be focusing on the leaker - I don't think they can get her for treason, but a decent jail term is on the cards.

Sure. Deflect from the document and focus on the leaker. She will get her just desserts, but that still leaves the meat of the document to be addressed.

There is no 'meat' to the document. It basically says that govt and corporate entities were the subject of cyber attacks. Not unusual - several states have already reported hack attempts their election systems. They accused the Democrats, but didn't provide any evidence either.

I don;t think it is meat in your sandwich, rather something a little more nasty.

Stop deflecting.

The report specifically mentions the Russians, in contrast to what you have claimed.

Are you willing to concede on that point, or are you honestly going to go with the "it was the Democrats" line of excuses?

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

Looks like a real document to me

That points to Russia. Will you concede on that, or do we have to link back to the document that mentions Russia, that you say does not point to Russia?

It's good to be focusing on the leaker - I don't think they can get her for treason, but a decent jail term is on the cards.

Sure. Deflect from the document and focus on the leaker. She will get her just desserts, but that still leaves the meat of the document to be addressed.

There is no 'meat' to the document. It basically says that govt and corporate entities were the subject of cyber attacks. Not unusual - several states have already reported hack attempts their election systems. They accused the Democrats, but didn't provide any evidence either.

I don;t think it is meat in your sandwich, rather something a little more nasty.

Stop deflecting.

The report specifically mentions the Russians, in contrast to what you have claimed.

Are you willing to concede on that point, or are you honestly going to go with the "it was the Democrats" line of excuses?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

Still, at least we can turn attention to a leaker being arrested.

The leaker would not of been arrested if they did not leak a real document.

Unless the whole episode is a clever psy-ops.

Using a conspiracy as a political crutch is not clever.

Try harder, Fox.

Your not clever, you're insulting our intelligence.

And right on cue ...

Mom Shocked at Daughter's Arrest for Leaking Secrets

a reply to: introvert

He's not deflecting as much as his intent is in trivializing what it says....


he claims "big deal hackers were targeting US Companies", but what it really says is "Target US companies / US Government Officials using voter registration-themed emails, spoof election-related products and services, research absentee ballot email addresses" which makes it a pretty damn big deal.

originally posted by: introvert

Stop deflecting.

The report specifically mentions the Russians, in contrast to what you have claimed.

Are you willing to concede on that point, or are you honestly going to go with the "it was the Democrats" line of excuses?

Of course it does.

They have to make look genuine don't they?

a reply to: xuenchen

Which is why that phrase "You can't make this # up" is so popular.
Irony happens Xue.

a reply to: UKTruth

More dishonesty.

Can't comment on what the dishonest have to say, except that they are dishonest.

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: introvert

He's not deflecting as much as his intent is in trivializing what it says....


he claims "big deal hackers were targeting US Companies", but what it really says is "Target US companies / US Government Officials using voter registration-themed emails, spoof election-related products and services, research absentee ballot email addresses" which makes it a pretty damn big deal.

The document is trivial, providing nothing new and certainly no evidence linking Russia to anything.
Even CNN's anonymous sources are saying that this is no change to the January document.. so you must believe it's not new.

a reply to: xuenchen

First thing I always do when reading a new to me news site is to hit the homepage to get a feel for their other articles. And when I see the invite to "join their newsroom of journalists" I tend to see all I need to know about the site.

A good example would be a short story I wrote a few years ago that was the diary of a rebellion leader that ended up being the newly elected Obama. Not that great of writing on my part and only a half-baked idea of some fiction; but less scrupulous websites would have placed that in some political forum instead of short stories/fiction where it belonged.

Maybe I should think up a good half-baked Trump short story.