Bathsheba, the daughter of the queen of Shebah?

a reply to: Khaleesi

Here, another reference:

www.blackhistoryinthebible.com...

[Bathsebah's] grandfather Ahithophel (David's African counselor). In 2 Samuel 11:3 we are told that Bathsheba's father is Eliam, but it isn't until 2 Samuel 23 that we find out that Bathsheba's grandfather is a Gilonite.

In 2 Samuel we learn that Uriah was one of David's generals. His father is «Eliam the son of Ahithophel the Gilonite». Bathsebah and her husband Uriah were Africans.

There, that should be the last nail in the coffin.

a reply to: Logarock

according to scriptures he was one of 37 guards headed by Asahel the brother of Joab, but still just a common soldier no elite Queen gives her daughter to wed a guard, only another of Royalty, Uriah is not said to be of royalty.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Khaleesi
In 2 Samuel ch23 Uriah is listed as one of David's "Thirty mighty men". This was obviously an elite unit.

Indeed! And also Eliam's father is named with them, and he was an African. Same goes with Uriah and Batsheba. Ref. 2 Sam 23:34.

a reply to: ChesterJohn


Your original objections were good but this Hittites deal has gotten off track. If hes captain of the guard hes very high ranking and trusted with the kings life.

And Joabs brother didn't have a separate command equal to Joab. Joab ran it all.

a reply to: Utnapisjtim


No no dude was a Hittite. Abrahams wife was a Hittite.

a reply to: Logarock

Yes I now agree, I stand corrected by the very scriptures I quoted.

I am out of this stupidity as well.

originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
What does Bat mean in Hebrew? What does Sheba mean in Hebrew? Oh that's right. Bat means «daughter of» (as compared to bar/ben which means «son of») and Sheba means «Ethiopia». How many people in the bible are called Batsheba?

As I pointed out earlier, the "sheba" in "Bathsheba" means "an oath". The "Sheba" in "queen of Sheba" is actually a different Hebrew word.

True enough. Sheba as in Ethiopia is written with an aleph in the end, while number seven and oath is written with an ayin in the end. However, the A-letters in Hebrew are sometimes used interchangeably (ref. Gesenius), where aleph is «softened» to ayin.

a reply to: Utnapisjtim


So can we get back to the steam and incest part of this? LOL

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
I am out of this stupidity as well.

Thank heavens!

What a load of lies and false teaching this op is giving us. Blacks are not the true Hebrews. It's been debunked. When did Africa spread the word of God or Gospel of Christ? When did Blacks become a blessing to the world? When has Africa ever led the world? I don't hate blacks or Africans, I just hate lies and stealing of history. I'm out after this post, not going to play ball here anymore or deal with his delusions.

While I don't agree with all he says, he brings up great points in the first video.

a reply to: UnifiedSerenity


No one on this thread said black were the true Hebrews only that there were Africans coming and going around Israle in Davids time.

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Utnapisjtim


No no dude was a Hittite. Abrahams wife was a Hittite.

And apparently the Hittites were black people and descendants of Ham. Ref. Genesis 10:15ff. They were descendants of Ham (which means Black) through his son Canaan.

Satisfied?

Canaan was the father of Sidon his firstborn, and of the Hittites (descendants of Heth according to Strong's and NAS) [NIV] Genesis 10.15

Hittites were originally from Africa and descendants of Heth, the son of Canaan, grandson of Ham. Hameth is the Arabic name for Egypt, and it means lit «The Black People». The word Alchemy comes from Arabic «Al-Chemet», which means «From the Black Land/Egypt», hence the expressions «black magic» or «black arts».....

Josephus also counted Hittites as the descendants of Ham and his son Canaan ref. answersingenesis.org...

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: UnifiedSerenity


No one on this thread said black were the true Hebrews only that there were Africans coming and going around Israle in Davids time.

Look at the OP's sources.

www.blackhistoryinthebible.com...

He is definitely going for Bathsheba's ethnicity and has already stated in a post that she was African. According to his logic that makes Solomon black. He is definitely going for a 'jews were black' angle.

a reply to: Khaleesi

Do you have a problem with black people?

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Utnapisjtim


No no dude was a Hittite. Abrahams wife was a Hittite.

And apparently the Hittites were black people and descendants of Ham. Ref. Genesis 10:15ff. They were descendants of Ham (which means Black) through his son Canaan.

Satisfied?

Canaan was the father of Sidon his firstborn, and of the Hittites (descendants of Heth according to Strong's and NAS) [NIV] Genesis 10.15

Hittites were originally from Africa and descendants of Heth, the son of Canaan, grandson of Ham. Hameth is the Arabic name for Egypt, and it means lit «The Black People». The word Alchemy comes from Arabic Al-Hameth, which means «From the Black Land/Egypt»

Hittites were from Asia Minor.

The Hittites occupied the region of Anatolia (also known as Asia Minor, modern-day Turkey) prior to 1700 BCE, developed a culture apparently from the indigenous Hatti (and possibly the Hurrian) people, and expanded their territories into an empire which rivaled, and threatened, the established nation of Egypt.

www.ancient.eu...

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: Khaleesi

Do you have a problem with black people?

Nope. Do you have a problem with Native Americans?

a reply to: Khaleesi

Ham wasn't black its a myth. All those brothers were the same race. Ham, Japheth and Shem.


I mean really folks have you ever thought about this stupid idea that these brothers were different races?

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Khaleesi

Ham wasn't black its a myth. All those brothers were the same race. Ham, Japheth and Shem.

I agree with you but he doesn't. He just posted that "Ham was black" BS in a post. Look up a few posts. ^^^

a reply to: Khaleesi


Yes I understand. I must confess to having ripped UF in the past much like Chester John.