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Paris mayor calls for ban on black feminist festival

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posted on May, 29 2017 @ 05:24 AM
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Anne Hidalgo said that the Nyansapo Festival, which dubbed itself as an event rooted in black feminism, excludes white people. Hidalgo has condemned the festival and tweeted: "I am asking for this festival to be banned."

The Socialist city council leader also said that she reserved the right "to prosecute the organisers for discrimination".

Paris mayor calls for ban on black feminist festival

Well, the French seem to have the right idea. In a world where people wallow in division and discrimination it takes a brave person to stand up and challenge things. All division in society, as this festival exemplifies, is wrong.

I am not American, but the existence of "black only" groups seems to perpetuate exclusion and division in that divided country. In the UK several universities have been rightfully criticised for allowing the segregation of women where there are Muslim events, and some schools have been found to do the same. This type of sex discrimination is an affront and the same as race discrimination.

Also, to highlight a point close to my heart... The festival is named after a place in Mali. According to Unicef 89% of girls suffer female genital mutilation in Mali. Women and Mali can never go together in harmony!

BBC on the festival
The Guardian



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi


Anne Hidalgo said that the Nyansapo Festival, which dubbed itself as an event rooted in black feminism, excludes white people. Hidalgo has condemned the festival and tweeted: "I am asking for this festival to be banned."

The Socialist city council leader also said that she reserved the right "to prosecute the organisers for discrimination".

Paris mayor calls for ban on black feminist festival

Well, the French seem to have the right idea. In a world where people wallow in division and discrimination it takes a brave person to stand up and challenge things. All division in society, as this festival exemplifies, is wrong.

I am not American, but the existence of "black only" groups seems to perpetuate exclusion and division in that divided country. In the UK several universities have been rightfully criticised for allowing the segregation of women where there are Muslim events, and some schools have been found to do the same. This type of sex discrimination is an affront and the same as race discrimination.

Also, to highlight a point close to my heart... The festival is named after a place in Mali. According to Unicef 89% of girls suffer female genital mutilation in Mali. Women and Mali can never go together in harmony!

BBC on the festival
The Guardian


My word, someone with guts and a conscience in France. Who would have thought it?! Quite obviously the organisers should be arrested and the event cancelled if they refuse to put a stop to their discrimination.

The alternative is to allow others to hold events and have different rules for attendance based on colour.
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posted on May, 29 2017 @ 05:50 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Nope. The mayor will be black balled & hamstrung by the President's office, along with the EU / French MSM, along with other local forces I'm ignorant of, if anything, going by the MO's of their liberal fascist counterparts in the English speaking nations that I'm more familiar with.




posted on May, 29 2017 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: UKTruth

Nope. The mayor will be black balled & hamstrung by the President's office, along with the EU / French MSM, along with other local forces I'm ignorant of, if anything, going by the MO's of their liberal fascist counterparts in the English speaking nations that I'm more familiar with.



I fear you are right.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 05:57 AM
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She said right (speaking from someone from France!)... we all should unite....

Screw politics once and for all (Wishful thinking...)

Warmest

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posted on May, 29 2017 @ 06:05 AM
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The milquetoast, globalist, grannyshagger, traitor president will intervene using terms like inclusiveness, vibrancy etc etc.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 06:18 AM
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Funny, how commentors are ok with a ban because of that black/white thing.
Even male commenters.

But everybody is ok with :
Women only


"Anne Hidalgo says organisers of the Nyansapo Festival in the capital could be prosecuted because most of the event space would for black women only"

Let´s read it like this:

"Anne Hidalgo says organisers of the Nyansapo Festival in the capital could be prosecuted because most of the event space would for WOMEN only"

What´s about this, this is ok, but if these women are black, the crying starts???

I can´t remember that i ever, in my whole life, heard of a festival that was for men only


Wtf, if those "feminists" would try to tell me what to do, where to go and where not, they would get their peace of equality, several times!
And it wouldn´t matter which skincolor, which "race", which sect, if ugly or pretty, if skinny or fat and all that!

I am male, and i never ever in my life would come to the idea to forbid women to walk into parts of the public space, they pay taxes for. If those "women", those so called "feminists" start to act like this, i bet that they, in around 5 years, beg for being allowed to be a houswife again, because equality can hit hit you very, very hard!

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posted on May, 29 2017 @ 06:52 AM
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The Mwasi-collective (festival promoter) says that the restriction will take place at a private meeting outside the cultural centre "La Générale".

This is to be considered. They want to prohibit white people from attending a meeting in a private place. Maybe they should send out invites, to make it official?



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

I hate to be the bore, but if it's a private event isn't it the case that they can allow who they want to attend? It's less than a year since a very well known golf club in Scotland agreed to allow women members - their argument had always been that it was the majority of their (male) members wanted to maintain the status quo until recently.

Glastonbury had a feminist based women only venue this year - I guess the only difference is that the only people excluded were males. Jeremy Corbyn has said he wants women only train carriages. Just as bad or worse?



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 07:44 AM
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I'm all for segregated events...depending on the event.
I can understand women [or men] only rape meetings. I understand that childless men shouldn't attend a toddler playgroup and such things.

Some are logical and it's embarrassing if someone who isn't really 'part' would want to join, such as Men's clubs, or old people's gatherings [yeah you could go as a woman to a 'gentlemen's club' but would you actually want to?] Just leave them to it. Or why would a man want to join a women's club?

Others I really think are racist or sexist if they exist. Swimming for muslim women, only white's club etc. And of course black women only gatherings. Racist, because it basically says that black people are different from everyone else, enough not to want other skin colours present.

Unless we make it a blanket rule that anyone can have any club and refuse whoever they want, blacks aren't 'special' enough IMO to warrant this just for them.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 07:53 AM
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Women only train carriages are fine by me. Can we have men only ones that are free from inane yak and whinging?
a reply to: uncommitted



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: uncommitted

I personally reject all forms of discrimination. In this case (as per the OP) the challenge has been against the festival being racist. If it was bunch of white people excluding blacks, then there would rightly be an uproar. Besides how can a person fight sexism by being sexist, or racism by being racist?

It does change if it is a private function - but this is not a private function as far as it is being reported.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: uncommitted

I personally reject all forms of discrimination. In this case (as per the OP) the challenge has been against the festival being racist. If it was bunch of white people excluding blacks, then there would rightly be an uproar. Besides how can a person fight sexism by being sexist, or racism by being racist?

It does change if it is a private function - but this is not a private function as far as it is being reported.


I too am against all forms of discrimination, don't get me wrong, I'm just interested in if the Paris mayor is so incensed because there is an element of the festival (the BBC article makes it clear it's only one part of the actual area) which is reserved for black female feminist... was wondering if it's the colour or the gender that is really the issue she is against. Actually, as she is the regional heard of Front Nationale I may be able to guess.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:23 AM
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originally posted by: CulturalResilience
Women only train carriages are fine by me. Can we have men only ones that are free from inane yak and whinging?
a reply to: uncommitted




Well, that wasn't a sexist response was it? Are you seriously suggesting men don't indulge in inane yak and whinging? You must travel on very different trains to me.

I've got no particular issue with women only carriages, although I find it distasteful that women are only safe when with other women. I'd also find it a mite frustrating if the women only carriage was the only one that had any space left on the last train home.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

It's only a good thing to segregate when you are forcing whites out and never the other way around.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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originally posted by: uncommitted
Actually, as she is the regional heard of Front Nationale I may be able to guess.


I don't know where you are getting your news, but Anne Hidalgo (the Mayor of Paris) is a Socialist and not a member of the Front Nationale, which is a right-wing party. She's pointing out that this is an objection based on race.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: uncommitted

I personally reject all forms of discrimination. In this case (as per the OP) the challenge has been against the festival being racist. If it was bunch of white people excluding blacks, then there would rightly be an uproar. Besides how can a person fight sexism by being sexist, or racism by being racist?

It does change if it is a private function - but this is not a private function as far as it is being reported.

Actually, as she is the regional heard of Front Nationale I may be able to guess.




Anne (Ana) Hidalgo (French pronunciation: ​[an idalgo]; born 19 June 1959) is a French politician who is the current Mayor of Paris. She is the first woman to hold the office. She has been a member of the Socialist Party (PS) since 1994, previously serving as former National Secretary for Culture and Media. She was the First Deputy Mayor of Paris, under Bertrand Delanoë (March 2001–March 2014).[2] She was elected as a Councillor in 2001 for the 15th arrondissement and ran again in the French municipal elections, 2008. She was elected mayor at the March 2014 municipal election.


She was recently fined for speaking out against le Front Nationale.

This event she is concerned about is racist - prioritising seating based on skin colour.


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posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: uncommitted
Actually, as she is the regional heard of Front Nationale I may be able to guess.


I don't know where you are getting your news, but Anne Hidalgo (the Mayor of Paris) is a Socialist and not a member of the Front Nationale, which is a right-wing party. She's pointing out that this is an objection based on race.


Correct.. and indeed she has spoken out against FN and been taken to court and found guilty of slandering them.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: uncommitted
Actually, as she is the regional heard of Front Nationale I may be able to guess.


I don't know where you are getting your news, but Anne Hidalgo (the Mayor of Paris) is a Socialist and not a member of the Front Nationale, which is a right-wing party. She's pointing out that this is an objection based on race.


My mistake, I misread, apologies. So, at a festival women only is fine, but black women only is bad? Isn't that somewhat a double standard?



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Please see my response to paraphi where I acknowledged my mistake. This is also prioritising seating based on gender - why aren't you equally aghast that such a thing could happen?



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