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originally posted by: angeldoll
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks
I wouldn't know because I'm a liberal.
But just listen to yourself for one second and reflect on this. You are saying that being under scrutiny 100% of the time because of your past (not to mention before he was ever a politician) is justifiable. The fact that you are holding his past against him is already considered bias, now throw on top of that a magnifying glass of scrutiny. You see the problem yet?
You mean like harping on the President's birth certificate for 8 years straight, even after he produces said certificate despite no obligation to do so?
I don't recall the main stream media constantly going on about the Birth certificate thing. I recall individuals who questioned it not being convinced with the photoshopped version of the birth certificate going on about it but I'm pretty sure CNN, ABC, NBC etc.. didn't have constant negative coverage of it.
Probably the realized early-on it was BS, so they didn't give it the attention, some nuts would have liked. Like Pizza-gate. They didn't cover it because it was such BS. Fodder for Alex Jones and his ilk.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
Replying to the bolded text.
As professional journalists, I would most definitely expect them not to react to it. The same way I expect professional athletes not to beat the crap out of fans when they get taunted. The same way I expect a police officer not to use excessive force because a criminal called him a pig. Sure these things happen but usually when it does those actions are condemned not enabled and applauded.
There is the ideal and then there is the reality. Humans strive for the ideal, but we are flawed creatures. I am just stating how reality works.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks
I wouldn't know because I'm a liberal.
But just listen to yourself for one second and reflect on this. You are saying that being under scrutiny 100% of the time because of your past (not to mention before he was ever a politician) is justifiable. The fact that you are holding his past against him is already considered bias, now throw on top of that a magnifying glass of scrutiny. You see the problem yet?
You mean like harping on the President's birth certificate for 8 years straight, even after he produces said certificate despite no obligation to do so?
I don't recall the main stream media constantly going on about the Birth certificate thing. I recall individuals who questioned it not being convinced with the photoshopped version of the birth certificate going on about it but I'm pretty sure CNN, ABC, NBC etc.. didn't have constant negative coverage of it.
Stop pretending like Fox isn't mainstream.
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
Replying to the bolded text.
As professional journalists, I would most definitely expect them not to react to it. The same way I expect professional athletes not to beat the crap out of fans when they get taunted. The same way I expect a police officer not to use excessive force because a criminal called him a pig. Sure these things happen but usually when it does those actions are condemned not enabled and applauded.
There is the ideal and then there is the reality. Humans strive for the ideal, but we are flawed creatures. I am just stating how reality works.
The reality is that in my example (athletes, cops) most act professionally where as journalists these days have shown to not consider professionalism part of the job. If your reality consists of people in positions where they are expected to act professionally act like middle school rumor mongers I don't think I have much more to say on the subject as our realities are very different.
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks
I wouldn't know because I'm a liberal.
But just listen to yourself for one second and reflect on this. You are saying that being under scrutiny 100% of the time because of your past (not to mention before he was ever a politician) is justifiable. The fact that you are holding his past against him is already considered bias, now throw on top of that a magnifying glass of scrutiny. You see the problem yet?
You mean like harping on the President's birth certificate for 8 years straight, even after he produces said certificate despite no obligation to do so?
I don't recall the main stream media constantly going on about the Birth certificate thing. I recall individuals who questioned it not being convinced with the photoshopped version of the birth certificate going on about it but I'm pretty sure CNN, ABC, NBC etc.. didn't have constant negative coverage of it.
Stop pretending like Fox isn't mainstream.
OK, I don't recall Fox running stories about it every other day or even that often to be honest. But even if they did that is ONE news outlet compared to Trumps's all BUT one.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
Replying to the bolded text.
As professional journalists, I would most definitely expect them not to react to it. The same way I expect professional athletes not to beat the crap out of fans when they get taunted. The same way I expect a police officer not to use excessive force because a criminal called him a pig. Sure these things happen but usually when it does those actions are condemned not enabled and applauded.
There is the ideal and then there is the reality. Humans strive for the ideal, but we are flawed creatures. I am just stating how reality works.
The reality is that in my example (athletes, cops) most act professionally where as journalists these days have shown to not consider professionalism part of the job. If your reality consists of people in positions where they are expected to act professionally act like middle school rumor mongers I don't think I have much more to say on the subject as our realities are very different.
This is just wrong. I read WaPo every day and every day I read professional articles that report just the facts. Just because there are opinion or analysis articles in there doesn't mean that professionalism has left the profession. You are just being biased.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks
I wouldn't know because I'm a liberal.
But just listen to yourself for one second and reflect on this. You are saying that being under scrutiny 100% of the time because of your past (not to mention before he was ever a politician) is justifiable. The fact that you are holding his past against him is already considered bias, now throw on top of that a magnifying glass of scrutiny. You see the problem yet?
You mean like harping on the President's birth certificate for 8 years straight, even after he produces said certificate despite no obligation to do so?
I don't recall the main stream media constantly going on about the Birth certificate thing. I recall individuals who questioned it not being convinced with the photoshopped version of the birth certificate going on about it but I'm pretty sure CNN, ABC, NBC etc.. didn't have constant negative coverage of it.
Stop pretending like Fox isn't mainstream.
OK, I don't recall Fox running stories about it every other day or even that often to be honest. But even if they did that is ONE news outlet compared to Trumps's all BUT one.
Dude... The birther controversy was a BIG deal throughout conservative media. To pretend otherwise is just dishonest.
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks
I wouldn't know because I'm a liberal.
But just listen to yourself for one second and reflect on this. You are saying that being under scrutiny 100% of the time because of your past (not to mention before he was ever a politician) is justifiable. The fact that you are holding his past against him is already considered bias, now throw on top of that a magnifying glass of scrutiny. You see the problem yet?
You mean like harping on the President's birth certificate for 8 years straight, even after he produces said certificate despite no obligation to do so?
I don't recall the main stream media constantly going on about the Birth certificate thing. I recall individuals who questioned it not being convinced with the photoshopped version of the birth certificate going on about it but I'm pretty sure CNN, ABC, NBC etc.. didn't have constant negative coverage of it.
Stop pretending like Fox isn't mainstream.
OK, I don't recall Fox running stories about it every other day or even that often to be honest. But even if they did that is ONE news outlet compared to Trumps's all BUT one.
Dude... The birther controversy was a BIG deal throughout conservative media. To pretend otherwise is just dishonest.
Does not even remotely compare to the media's treatment of Trump. By the way, how many conservative mainsteam media outlets are there compared to liberal media outlets.
originally posted by: Gargamel
So why can't they report just the facts on Trump.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Gargamel
Anonymous sources are part and parcel of professional journalism. They have gone hand-in-hand together since the profession was started. The only time they stopped being credible in the public's eyes is when Trump said so and his followers blindly listened without vetting the information being leaked.
originally posted by: Kryties
originally posted by: Gargamel
So why can't they report just the facts on Trump.
But they ARE.
They are reporting Trumps own actions and words. Yet the nutjob supporters, instead of blaming their hero for his own words and actions, attempt to blame the media for doing their job.
It's beyond pathetic.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Gargamel
I don't recall ever making that point or even insinuating it.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Gargamel
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks
I wouldn't know because I'm a liberal.
But just listen to yourself for one second and reflect on this. You are saying that being under scrutiny 100% of the time because of your past (not to mention before he was ever a politician) is justifiable. The fact that you are holding his past against him is already considered bias, now throw on top of that a magnifying glass of scrutiny. You see the problem yet?
You mean like harping on the President's birth certificate for 8 years straight, even after he produces said certificate despite no obligation to do so?
I don't recall the main stream media constantly going on about the Birth certificate thing. I recall individuals who questioned it not being convinced with the photoshopped version of the birth certificate going on about it but I'm pretty sure CNN, ABC, NBC etc.. didn't have constant negative coverage of it.
Stop pretending like Fox isn't mainstream.
OK, I don't recall Fox running stories about it every other day or even that often to be honest. But even if they did that is ONE news outlet compared to Trumps's all BUT one.
Dude... The birther controversy was a BIG deal throughout conservative media. To pretend otherwise is just dishonest.
Does not even remotely compare to the media's treatment of Trump. By the way, how many conservative mainsteam media outlets are there compared to liberal media outlets.
Compare? Who is comparing? I'm saying they are both guilty of doing this and you are being biased by saying this is only a problem of Trump's. The minority party's media outlets are ALWAYS critical of the sitting President. Even to the ridiculous degree.
Where were you calling out the lack of professionalism in all the journalists keeping the Birther controversy alive all those years?