Erdoğan's bodyguards in violent clash with protesters in Washington DC

a reply to: D8Tee

I don't know how far (I'll let someone else look if they care to) But here is one scenario that 'may' have precipitated the event. Erdagon was leaving the Latvia Embassy and something/things were thrown in his direction, that would most definitely encourage a response from the bodyguards especially if they were standing out front for a good part of the day listening to people talk s&*t.

Do I think they used excessive force, sure looks like it considering you see them kicking people already on the ground.

a reply to: LockNLoad

You just guessing about the things being thrown?
I guess we'll know more by morning, this will be in the media.

a reply to: D8Tee

I am, like I said earlier, without seeing the start of the altercation who knows if the initial response from the bodyguards was warranted.

a reply to: D8Tee

Erdagon could not have felt threatened, these Turkish thugs didn't like the sight of the Kurdish PYD flag and attacked.

I agree, so close to the results of the referendum in Turkey giving Erdogan dictatorial powers; it would not, in their mind, be right to give the Kurds a platform to protest in the US during Erdogan's visit.

a reply to: rickymouse

When a leader from another country comes here, we are supposed to supply security, how come our security didn't take out those protestors.

What a pile of stinking, steaming ordure this post is.

The Turks are all about some equality... they beat the crap out of the women too.

a reply to: D8Tee
Erdogan's bodyguards are total #bags. They roughed up some people in Ecuador once too.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Seems these guys are just out of control!

Have to wonder at the cop calling one of Ergodan's thugs Sir when he should have been going Rodney King on his arse.

The brown shirts and black suits are nothing but violent thugs and very unprofessional to say the least. Eye seriously off the ball on this one. While they were brawling with protestors someone could and probably should have taken down Ergodan just to teach them a lesson in how to be a professional security detail.

a reply to: D8Tee

Erdoğan's bodyguards in violent clash with protesters in Washington DC

why was he summoned to Washington?

a reply to: Azureblue

President Trump will host Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan at the White House on Tuesday, following the administration's decision to arm a Kurdish faction in Syria.

Earlier Wednesday, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis brushed off Turkey's demands that the U.S. reverse its decision to arm Kurds in Syria that the NATO ally considers terrorists. Erdogan called on Trump to reverse the decision to arm the Kurdish YPG militia before the two leaders meet.

In a statement, the White House said, "the two leaders will discuss how to further strengthen our bilateral relationship and deepen our cooperation to confront terrorism in all its forms."

link

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: worldstarcountry

Seems these guys are just out of control!

Perhaps not under the control of the US might be a little more accurate.

a reply to: rickymouse

1st Amendment.

a reply to: Azureblue

Also Trump is hot for autocratic dictators and authoritarians.

According to witnesses, the brawl erupted when the Turkish president’s security detail attacked protesters carrying the flag of the Kurdish PYD party outside the residence.

The Guardian

The one thing I've agreed with Trump about. Arming the PYD.

Turkish - USA relations are not going to be sacrificed at the Altar of Soros funded terrorists .

Erdogan's security team and his Cabinet has more Kurds than those protestors who proclaimed to be Kurds but in reality are just hidden Armenians .

Facebook removed the sh1tty flower ; do you wonder why ?


How and when did ATS got filled with so many ignorant and clueless users ?

I understand that some not like Turks ; which is fine but Denying the Truth goes against the Motto of ATS .

Ironic that it was Erdogan who have gotten rid of military rule and restored Kurdish Rights in Turkey .

It's just DC in general once got into a fistfight with someone for asking directions. a reply to: D8Tee

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: rickymouse

1st Amendment.

That applies to American soil, the Ambassadors residence is Turkish, it is part of the Embassy. Our rights do not give us rights in other countries, we cannot go protest in Turkey, we will probably get thrown in Jail. Our rights do not protect us while protesting in any other country. If they stayed on the road, they probably would not have been on Embassy property, as soon as one of the protestors crossed the line, those guards could go off their land to stop any other protestors from possibly coming on the Embassy property. What I can't figure out is why our police let the protesters there, now they are being kept far away, the roads to that area are blocked now, it is a restricted area and not even citizens have a right to come there and protest.

Learn to interpret the laws correctly. I may not have all the particulars on things but I do know a little about the legalities, I have had a few friends as lawyers and judges over the years. I also look up laws when someone mentions something. Been doing that for over forty years now. Years ago I had to ask a judge I knew about interpretation of law, he was a friend of our family, I got married to my first wife at his house.

another day

Erdogan's guards are probably on high alert after the coup attempt.
They probably have seen the news reports of US protests and how violent they can be, and were trying to be proactive.

Of course it was very wrong of them, but I can see why they did it.