Study Says People With Higher IQ's Are More Likely To Use Cannabis

a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

Smart people need it to deal with the idiots.

originally posted by: Tardacus
Having a high IQ doesn`t equal being smart so the stupid stoner label could still be applied to people with high IQ`s

how smart is it to use an illegal drug and risk getting a criminal record or even going to jail?

what good is their high IQ going to do them when they are working at McDonalds flipping burgers because nobody else will hire them due to having a criminal record for illegal drug use and possession?

I suppose they could move to California and get a job as a college professor,i hear California colleges aren`t very picky about who they hire,but a government job would be out of the question for a convicted drug offender.,no matter how high their IQ is.

This is exactly what I wanted to say. I have never once tried illegal drugs. I do not have a high IQ, but I am intelligent enough to understand what could happen if I ever got caught using illegal drugs. I have my 6 children and career to think about. I am also intelligent enough to realize that logically speaking, anything you inhale into your lungs can not be good for you in the long run.

a reply to: Sportbominablemachine

Laws, like times, change. At one time it was illegal for women to vote. At one time it was illegal to drive a car on a Sunday, in some places. Marijuana laws are changing all over the country. I'm not saying it's smart or not to smoke. I'm just saying that your argument re: its legality is quickly crumbling.

a reply to: Tardacus

Really? Because I have smoked cannabis for 27 years & have never been caught despite (formerly) living in a ridiculously conservative red state. Anyone who gets caught isn't the brightest and proves they were doing something stupid prior to getting popped. If you're smart about it, it isn't a big deal.

Have you actually attended a Cali college? Your information is wrong.

originally posted by: Sportbominablemachine
I am also intelligent enough to realize that logically speaking, anything you inhale into your lungs can not be good for you in the long run.

This isn't logical at all. It's an assumption without evidence extending scientific research saying that cigarette smoke is bad for you. Not to mention, pot doesn't have to be inhaled.

Cannabis naturalises your nervous system and realigns it with nature.



The ban on this plant is the most stupid thing to do imho.

originally posted by: Sportbominablemachine

I am also intelligent enough to realize that logically speaking, anything you inhale into your lungs can not be good for you in the long run.

Air?

a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

To be quite honest OP and I cant understand why nobody on the first page didn't point it out.

This sounds like Liberal Propaganda to try and dumb everyone down even more. I know alot of extremely high IQ people (managers for the largest hedge funds and Accounting firms as well my uncle is the CEO of Cameco, I'm pretty sure he's not doing anything) they all do not smoke weed at all, are opposed to all drugs.

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

To be quite honest OP and I cant understand why nobody on the first page didn't point it out.

This sounds like Liberal Propaganda to try and dumb everyone down even more. I know alot of extremely high IQ people (managers for the largest hedge funds and Accounting firms as well my uncle is the CEO of Cameco, I'm pretty sure he's not doing anything) they all do not smoke weed at all, are opposed to all drugs.

Maybe because unsourced anecdotes don't trump scientific data? You are going to have to do better than that to refute the OP. All you did was expose your partisanship by using the phrase "liberal propaganda".

originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix

originally posted by: jjkenobi

originally posted by: Sillyolme
I'm not saying there's nothing to the study. My own experience with people who were partaking was that they were college educated. But that was just my crowd. I never put the two together.

College educated does not equal high IQ.

My experience is the people who used it went on to not graduate high school and now work at a gas station and still live with their parents.

Well you seem to have a very limited scope of experience with the subject at hand and rely solely on your own anecdotal experiences to blanket policy a counter culture that you do not agree with let alone thoroughly understand.

My I.Q. was estimated at nearly 160 with standard deviation of 15 in the Marines and I tested as 160 on a test when I was 13... And yet, I hate drugs... Besides alcohol. It makes the voices quieter. Pot only makes them louder and causes me severe anxiety.

originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
What about the problem it can cause to short term memory. Also what about the problems it can cause to short term memory. I'm told it can also cause problems with short term memory.

Again for most that partake that is an acceptable risk and fairly benign in the grand scope of things. There have also been studies that show cannabis can help prevent Alzheimer's, oh the irony.

The same studies that show advantages for older adults show that the juvenile brain is harmed by cannabis use.

originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: Sportbominablemachine

Laws, like times, change. At one time it was illegal for women to vote. At one time it was illegal to drive a car on a Sunday, in some places. Marijuana laws are changing all over the country. I'm not saying it's smart or not to smoke. I'm just saying that your argument re: its legality is quickly crumbling.

So just because marijuana might become legal I ought to plan to start smoking it when it does?

That's well-thought out.

Not a big fan of crap in my lungs.

Also not a big fan of altered states of mind, not even getting drunk. I don't like to feel out of control and that's what drugs do, and believe me thanks to chronic migraine, I'd have plenty of experience of drugs of all kinds ... legally, even a bad drug trip. I do know I am just plain not a fan of it.

a reply to: ketsuko



Migraines.....

migraine.com...

you don't have to inhale a brownie...

a reply to: Ranger351

originally posted by: Ranger351

originally posted by: Sportbominablemachine

I am also intelligent enough to realize that logically speaking, anything you inhale into your lungs can not be good for you in the long run.

Air?

I believe achieving embryonic respiration is a prerequisite.

I am torn by this subject.

On one hand, I am so tired of the weed people that can't hold a five minute conversations without slipping in how weed is a miracle cure all.

But in all seriousness, I see no problem with people using this drug responsibly. As long as you are not hurting others to feed your addiction, you should be allowed to put whatever you want into your body, especially if its natural.

I would like to look more thoroughly at the study, but it sounds reasonable based on my experiences.

I have known many people that are brilliant that are frequent users. And I have seen that it does far less harm than most prescription drugs and alcohol.

It may not be for me, but if you enjoy using it, more power to you.

a reply to: olaru12

Don't trust it.

Too many people who claim it cures everything for me to bite. Besides the nature of chronic migraine being what it is, it's as likely to become a trigger as help. Chronic migraines don't work quite like regular ones.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: olaru12

Don't trust it.

Too many people who claim it cures everything for me to bite.

Agreed. It only ever hurt me.

a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

Hahaha. That was a funny read, man. I must have smoked myself stupid over the past 16 years because I finally quit smoking (at least long enough to have a clean system for the first time since I started).

IQ has little to do with it. If one think high IQ is the dominate determining factor in one's willingness to partake, then either you're high, dumb, or skmply been smoking pot for too long. At the very least... "check your priviledge". Do you know how many stupid people smoke pot? No? Then you sir were sheltered.

Me, for example, smoked for many years, and my IQ is about the size of a grasshopper. My mom, never smoking even once, is brilliant! Published in the library of congress, fullbright scholar, traveled the world over.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Maybe scientific data is BS too frequently to care about said data when it conflicts with personal observations and experience. I call fraud alert on this study.

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Maybe scientific data is BS too frequently to care about said data when it conflicts with personal observations and experience. I call fraud alert on this study.

Or it conflicts with your bias against it?

reply to: TarzanBeta

In my experience you would be the exception not the rule as far as negative effects as a result of partaking. It does happen but it's not very often that someone has a serious adverse effect, I've heard of people coughing until they puked or laughing themselves to tears.

Also from personal observation it would seem that the way a person reacts to any particular substance has just as much to do with that person's own mind and willpower. Some people are just nervous nellies and freak out if the wind blows too hard while others manage to stay chill in almost any circumstances. Per cannabis itself there are actually specific strains meant to ease anxiety while others are known to agitate any pre existing anxiety one might have. It's so amazing how complex the brain and body chemistry are and vary so much from person to person. That is the reason that with some prescription medications the dose has to start out as a best guest and be honed into the proper amount to do the job correctly. I've also noticed that high energy fast paced people tend not to like cannabis so much but instead prefer another vice not to be mentioned here that is more conducive to their personality.