Democrats Deny Work to Conservative Businesses

Lets start with the link to Politico.com

California is attempting to pass a measure where it would deny state work to any company involved in building the wall on the Mexican border. Yup...that is right...California Democrats wish to consider the political views of a business or at least whom they have worked with before, and if it doesn't match up with their personal, political values...they will no longer do business with them.

In California, Democratic lawmakers on Tuesday advanced a measure to bar the state from awarding contracts to any company involved in the wall’s construction, while a bill to prevent the state’s massive pension funds from investing in those companies stands pending. Lawmakers introduced similar measures in New York and Rhode Island. The city of San Francisco is considering a blacklist, and Berkeley adopted one last month.

For the record...the "wall" is a legal effort already voted upon and accepted when called a fence by the left in the House and Senate. Securing our border is a requirement of our government...but California...the home of liberal, progressives that have gone too far...is happy to damage other American businesses in efforts to pursuede such businesses to NOT do the work required.

I remember a certain bakery business that was destroyed and sued for deciding not to serve a gay couple. I remember ATS in flames arguing how evil this company was to turn the gay couple away just because of their views. But now...here is California trying to do the same basic thing at a state level.

Might I suggest that every state that Trump won refuse to do business or award contracts to non-Trump supporters? How about a state saying that if you don't support the "wall", you can't use their roads? Maybe the government should deny health insurance to anyone in a non-Trump supporting state?

I don't see much difference there...do you? Why does California have a right to decide who can work for the state? Can they refuse to hire workers based upon political views? Isn't that illegal?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You have a problem with States Rights and local determination?

Hmmm.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You have a problem with States Rights and local determination?

Hmmm.

So you would agree then that my suggestions should be permissible?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Because they adhere to Marxist tactics of a purity test to see if your ideologically appropriate.

It's how things are done in the leftist universe.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

What I find funny is the wall everyone is up in arms over has been in the works through the past 2 administrations. Trump isn't doing anything new except promising to finish it.

CA will also be shooting themselves in the foot with this as if they pass it, they will immediately lose a lot of business.

They are also being picky and choosey as they get almost all of their money from the Federal Government and use resources provided by them and other states.

I would love to see everyone that does business with CA drop them all at once, cut fed funding and then see how long they last...I'd give them about a month.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I think the question was why is the platform of small government giving the middle finger to every state once they're in power?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You have a problem with States Rights and local determination?

Hmmm.

Did you take that stance in regard to Arizona's moves to enforce the laws in their own state concerning illegal aliens?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Because they adhere to Marxist tactics of a purity test to see if your ideologically appropriate.

It's how things are done in the leftist universe.

But it's okay when states have a "purity test" when it comes to women's health and reproductive rights, and deny Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements to doctors, hospitals and clinics that provide legal and Constitutionally protected medical services?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

From the Politico article, it seems that the focus of these proposed measures and laws are directed at an action ("the building of Trump's wall) not at Conservatives, Republicans, whathaveyou.

Was Trump only going to use his supporters to do the work? Did you say something about political discrimination?

For the record, I don't approve of anything that smacks of government taking a political side ... but let's face facts.

You can't approve of Trump's using the power of the Federal government to push through his political agenda, with the support of the Republican Congress, and then fault Democrats in California and New York for doing the same.

At least, not reasonably.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You have a problem with States Rights and local determination?

Hmmm.

Did you take that stance in regard to Arizona's moves to enforce the laws in their own state concerning illegal aliens?

I'm not a great advocate for States Rights or local determination when it contravenes our rights as Americans.

However, I'm not the OP here, who IS on the record as supporting such.

Swing and a miss, Butch.

a reply to: windword

So you agree that California is conducting a "purity test" to determine if a contractor should gain a contract.

How long have you been for discrimination?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
The boycott is a very effective weapon when applied to minorities, e.g. the Jews in Nazi Germany, or unpopular states.
But if a society is divided into two almost equal portions, there is a danger that the weapon might backfire; it is only too easy for the boycott to be made reciprocal. What happens when conservatives begin boycotting every product that comes out of California?

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a reply to: DISRAELI

Conservatives boycott everything already, they fail at understanding organization is a crucial part of a boycott. They also don't understand exposure is supposed to help bring those to your cause, but they're normally so nasty no one joins them an it's ineffective. Behaving like a cult won't get them far anyway, it should be obvious that knee-jerk type reaction is childish to try to crush your local countries economy.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Republicans control the White House and the 2 Houses and they're pushing the Republican Platform. Why would anyone expect anything less? Do you consider the Federal Government guilty of discrimination in doing so? If not, why would you consider California's Democratic Governor and House aligning their states policies with Democratic Platforms to be discrimination?

This is from the OP:

In California, Democratic lawmakers on Tuesday advanced a measure to bar the state from awarding contracts to any company involved in the wall’s construction, while a bill to prevent the state’s massive pension funds from investing in those companies stands pending. Lawmakers introduced similar measures in New York and Rhode Island. The city of San Francisco is considering a blacklist, and Berkeley adopted one last month.

You can't argue that California, etc. is involved in a political act in opposing the construction of "the wall" unless you're willing to admit that the construction of "the wall" in itself is a political act.

The measures (which are proposals, btw) are directed against a specific action ... not against the presumed political positions of the contractors ...

... you guys really just don't think these things out, do you?

a reply to: windword

So you think that it is okay to discriminate based on political ideology.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

From the Politico article, it seems that the focus of these proposed measures and laws are directed at an action ("the building of Trump's wall) not at Conservatives, Republicans, whathaveyou.

Was Trump only going to use his supporters to do the work? Did you say something about political discrimination?

For the record, I don't approve of anything that smacks of government taking a political side ... but let's face facts.

You can't approve of Trump's using the power of the Federal government to push through his political agenda, with the support of the Republican Congress, and then fault Democrats in California and New York for doing the same.

At least, not reasonably.

Problem is, it isn't Trumps Wall and was started a long time ago. How silly people are who forget those that originally voted to pass the bill to build this wall....Obama and Clinton were in the mix....Trump wasn't....he is simply finishing what they supported in the first place....hypocrisy much?

If California pulls this off successfully, other states may follow. A lot of Texans, especially right on the border don't want the wall.

TextSixty-one percent of Texas adults oppose the border wall, according to the 2017 Texas Lyceum poll. Texans also felt that immigration was the most important issue facing the state. Seventy-two percent of Texans said they were either "extremely" or "somewhat" concerned about illegal immigration. But 62 percent also said they opposed plans for mass deportations.

Newsweek

a reply to: Vasa Croe

There are strategic border walls between the US and Mexico. (Thus putting the lie to the idea that we've not done anything pre-Trump to protect our borders.)

The new and improved "Great Wall" as promised by Trump is a political act, pure and simple.