schools must allow for minority students to speak in ebonics

originally posted by: Jahari

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: RedDragon

learn to live with people different then you.

If diffrent = high crime then no, i expect that community to change and sort there problems out to conform with civilised law abiding society.

Well i see your just a bigot. This threat is about language. How you jump to crime? Oh black people=crime I would guess.

I was responding to the risk management debate another poster started.

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: RedDragon

learn to live with people different then you.

If diffrent = high crime then no, i expect that community to change and sort there problems out to conform with civilised law abiding society.

so people that speak ebonics automatically commit high rates of crimes?

i think you're done here.

Well here is my point jghvyfydxez.iygugug ihugugig ohihig. Ih8gig8g ihugugug ucdtdtd.
Understand?

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Jahari
learningenglish.voanews.com...

Just a quick Google search for those to read that think a spoken language is static.

Of course, it's not.

Why else do you think a lot of this thread has been about different dialects of different languages? If language was static, we wouldn't have and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

However, just because different dialects of a language exist doesn't mean that everyone who speaks one dialect can understand everyone who speaks another dialect, even of the same language. Ever tried to speak to someone who speaks Cajun? Ever tried it while speaking Ebonics? Good luck with that!

That's why schools used to teach professional English and still should today ... so that everyone knows at least one dialect in common, so that we can all talk to each other and have one language/dialect in common.

And that's why we're having this discussion ... because allowing some children to never attempt to learn and become proficient in that common dialect out of a misplaced sense of compassion would disadvantage them in their future dealings with professional society where the best job opportunities are.

I understand your point but as a black person I can firmly say ebonics does not exist. It's something mainstream America made up. I have never heard anyone speak ebonics. Period!

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

you were not raised typing random letters you already demonstrated that in your earlier posts. try harder.

They are not random letters! How dare you insult my style of writing!

I can speak in English and the dialect of ufydydrajkpjittstd!

My apologies.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

you were not raised typing random letters you already demonstrated that in your earlier posts. try harder.

They are not random letters! How dare you insult my style of writing!

I can speak in English and the dialect of ufydydrajkpjittstd!

Can you please post me a video of someone speaking ebonics?

originally posted by: Jahari

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

you were not raised typing random letters you already demonstrated that in your earlier posts. try harder.

They are not random letters! How dare you insult my style of writing!

I can speak in English and the dialect of ufydydrajkpjittstd!

Can you please post me a video of someone speaking ebonics?

Can you google it as I am on my phone at the moment.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Jahari

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

you were not raised typing random letters you already demonstrated that in your earlier posts. try harder.

They are not random letters! How dare you insult my style of writing!

I can speak in English and the dialect of ufydydrajkpjittstd!

Can you please post me a video of someone speaking ebonics?

Can you google it as I am on my phone at the moment.

No i cant because I know no one speaks it. I was hoping to educate you and everyone here arguing over something nonexistent. Let's not confuse this with Slang. Because every culture has their own Slang words. So what are we talking about?

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

you were not raised typing random letters you already demonstrated that in your earlier posts. try harder.

They are not random letters! How dare you insult my style of writing!

I can speak in English and the dialect of ufydydrajkpjittstd!

That's just how you choose to express yourself. Why won't these bigots accommodate your chosen dialect? Why are they not being inclusive? You should be celebrated for your "rich cultural diversity"!

originally posted by: Jahari

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Jahari

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

you were not raised typing random letters you already demonstrated that in your earlier posts. try harder.

They are not random letters! How dare you insult my style of writing!

I can speak in English and the dialect of ufydydrajkpjittstd!

Can you please post me a video of someone speaking ebonics?

Can you google it as I am on my phone at the moment.

No i cant because I know no one speaks it. I was hoping to educate you and everyone here arguing over something nonexistent. Let's not confuse this with Slang. Because every culture has their own Slang words. So what are we talking about?

Well if you call it slang then its slang.

Thats a whole diffrent debate, does talking slang = a diffrent dialect/language.

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: EvillerBob

it depends on where you live in. in some parts of the US speaking spanish aids you because you live in a an area dominated by latin people. other parts of the country there may be more asian people etc.

This is very true, but would you hire a spanish speaker with no chemistry knowledge to teach chemistry, just because they spoke spanish?

Extra languages can absolutely be an enhancement, especially in the kind of situation that you mention, but you can't sacrifice the core requirement of "knowing the subject well enough to teach it". Well, you can, but then you end up with public schools.

a reply to: grainofsand

my mother gets compliments on how she speaks all the time its a conversation starter. you are the only one that has a problem with how she speaks and how people who speak ebonics speak. so again its a personal problem. other people like it

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Jahari

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Jahari

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

you were not raised typing random letters you already demonstrated that in your earlier posts. try harder.

They are not random letters! How dare you insult my style of writing!

I can speak in English and the dialect of ufydydrajkpjittstd!

Can you please post me a video of someone speaking ebonics?

Can you google it as I am on my phone at the moment.

No i cant because I know no one speaks it. I was hoping to educate you and everyone here arguing over something nonexistent. Let's not confuse this with Slang. Because every culture has their own Slang words. So what are we talking about?

Well if you call it slang then its slang.

Thats a whole diffrent debate, does talking slang = a diffrent dialect/language.

No in my opinion it does not. But isnt that what you would consider ebonics? Can i get an example of ebonics? Anything? Like I said before ebonics does not exist.

a reply to: crazyewok

your point is you are ignorant totally got it!

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

you were not raised typing random letters you already demonstrated that in your earlier posts. try harder.

They are not random letters! How dare you insult my style of writing!

I can speak in English and the dialect of ufydydrajkpjittstd!

That's just how you choose to express yourself. Why won't these bigots accommodate your chosen dialect? Why are they not being inclusive? You should be celebrated for your "rich cultural diversity"!

Exactly!
The need to learn my method of comunication too otherwise that is just racist!

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

your point is you are ignorant totally got it!

Dont give away your power.

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111

live and let live.

Except teachers aren't supposed to live and let live. Teachers that try, end up with feral students who can't read or write. What percentage of kids really want to be inside learning when it's a lovely day outside and there's a playground just waiting to be used.

a reply to: EvillerBob

arent teachers required to have a degree meaning they went to years of college and took classes covering a variety of knowledge not just one subject?

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

your point is you are ignorant totally got it!

De Verdad? Soy tan ignorante y odioso estoy aprendiendo español.

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111
a reply to: crazyewok

just quit your job please. you obviously HATE people.

He's displaying more love for his students than many of the other posters here.

I keep calling crazyewok "he", apologies if this is incorrect. He's just making too much sense to be a girl