The flat earth conspiracy

a reply to: turbonium1

Yes it does.

Have you seen the Apollo flight paths around Earth, before going into 'orbit'?

Post links, so I can see them, thanks.

a reply to: turbonium1

Yes, yes I have.
They are readily available.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: turbonium1

Yes, yes I have.
They are readily available.

Post a source, to support your claim, then.

Excuses don't work.

a reply to: turbonium1

First tell me how the elevation of Polaris can correspond to the latitude of the observer on a flat world.

I asked you that long ago and you never answered. "The world is variable" doesn't work. Show me a picture.

now that our resident flat earth troll has actually posted a flat earth map :

it instantly demonstrates several fatal flaws

thie most glaring = longitude

why on a flat earth " map " is the tropic of capricorn a different length to the tropic of cancer ?

in the real world :

1 degree of latitude is ALWAYS 60 NM

at BOTH N 45 and S 45 - i degree of longitude = 42.5 NM

flat earth " cosmology " - fails dismally

ooops - this is why i wanted the idiot to post a flat earth " map "

it has always refused previously

but now - BANG its just demolished its own argument - using its own map

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Yeah.
I may have put him into hibernation with a similar point already.

Sorry about that.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

hear is a longitude calculator [ simplified ]

linky

instant observations :

1 - it does not require specification of N or S latitude - just the number

thus it is incompatible with the flat earth delusion

but works in the real world

a reply to: turbonium1

They are not hard to find, do your own work. You could also look at the links I already posted showing photographs of the Apollo craft taken from Earth.

a reply to: turbonium1

Read.

The.

Links.

You.

Have.

Been.

Given.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

one has to question the sanity and or intelligence of someone who , both :

declares all evidence from a source " fake "

and yet demands more evidence from the same source

a reply to: turbonium1

Do you have evidence the below is false?

Metabunk

www.metabunk.org...-210618

Mad Lord Snapcase
www.metabunk.org...

Just thought of another way that Antarctica is shown to be a continent.

Every year planes fly from South America to McMurdo via the south pole (as well as other destinations). McMurdo is also reached by flying south from New Zealand. Flight times and distances obviously match the globe earth distances as well as the flight times. These flights happen every summer and there are many internal flights from base to base within the continent.

The planes that I'm familiar with are owned by Kenn Borek Air Ltd. ( www.borekair.com... )
From their website:
“ ANTARCTIC

KBAL has been heavily involved in Antarctic operations for the past 27 years. In 2011 KBAL had a total of 17 aircraft on the Antarctic continent in support of scientific research.”

a reply to: turbonium1

Then “debunk” the starlink constellation?

Starlink: SpaceX's satellite internet project
By Adam Mann

www.space.com...


The first 60 Starlink satellites were launched on May 23, 2019, aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket. The satellites successfully reached their operational altitude of 340 miles (550 kilometers) — low enough to get pulled down to Earth by atmospheric drag in a few years so that they don't become space junk once they die.

Snip

Controversy over Starlink

Within days of the first launch, skywatchers spotted a linear pearl string of lights as the satellites whizzed overhead in the early morning. Web-based guides showed others how to track down the spectacular display.

"This was quite an amazing sight, and I was shouting 'Owowowow!' when the bright 'train' of objects entered into view," Netherlands-based satellite tracker Marco Langbroek previously told Space.com via email. "They were brighter than I had anticipated."

If man cannot place items in orbit around earth, then what are the visible from earth Starlink Satellites?

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: turbonium1

Yes, yes I have.
They are readily available.

Post a source, to support your claim, then.

Excuses don't work.

Your whole flat earth fantasy are based on excuses.

CBS news coverage, showing exactly where the Apollo 11 crew were in EPO:

youtu.be...

Same for Apollo 10's launch:



There will be more, but frankly he's not worth the effort if he can't be bothered to search "Apollo Earth parking orbit charts" himself.

Report of a press briefing given about Apollo 8, dated November 1968 (ie, before the mission).

ntrs.nasa.gov...

Page 55 contains the information turbo seems to think wasn't ever given to anyone.

Same for Apollo 4:

ntrs.nasa.gov... (page 67)

if only a certain troll - would actually read and comprehen - that during the appollo missions - a certain ship was directed to a station keeping point in the mid atlantic - before each launch - its mission to ...........................

now - if a troll googles in the forest - and does not accept what it reads - will the world hear its scream of rage ?

a reply to: turbonium1

There is plenty of evidence of trips beyond Earth’s orbit.

Third-party evidence for Apollo Moon landings

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Kettering Grammar School Edit
A group at Kettering Grammar School, using simple radio equipment, monitored Soviet and U.S. spacecraft and calculated their orbits.[9][10] According to the group, in December 1972 a member "picks up Apollo 17 on its way to the Moon".[11]

Apollo 8 Edit
Main article: Apollo 8
Apollo 8 was the first crewed mission to orbit the Moon, but did not land.

On December 21, 1968, at 18:00 UT, amateur astronomers (H. R. Hatfield, M. J. Hendrie, F. Kent, Alan Heath, and M. J. Oates) in the UK photographed a fuel dump from the jettisoned S-IVB third rocket stage.[5]
Pic du Midi Observatory (in the French Pyrenees); the Catalina Station of the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory (University of Arizona); Corralitos Observatory, New Mexico, then operated by Northwestern University; McDonald Observatory of the University of Texas; and Lick Observatory of the University of California all filed reports of observations.[5]
Dr. Michael Moutsoulas at Pic du Midi Observatory reported an initial sighting around 17:10 UT on December 21 with the 1.1-metre reflector as an object (magnitude near 10, through clouds) moving eastward near the predicted location of Apollo 8. He used a 60 cm refractor telescope to observe a cluster of objects which were obscured by the appearance of a nebulous cloud at a time which matches a firing of the service module engine to assure adequate separation from the S-IVB. This event can be traced with the Apollo 8 Flight Journal, noting that launch was at 0751 EST or 12:51 UT on December 21.[5]
Justus Dunlap and others at Corralitos Observatory (then operated by Northwestern University) obtained over 400 short-exposure intensified images, giving very accurate locations for the spacecraft.[5]
The 2.1 m Otto Struve Telescope at McDonald Observatory, from 01:50 to 2:37 UT on December 23, observed the brightest object flashing as bright as magnitude 15, with the flash pattern recurring about once a minute.[5]
The Lick Observatory observations during the return coast to Earth produced live television pictures broadcast to United States west coast viewers via KQED-TV in San Francisco.[5]
An article in the March 1969 issue of Sky & Telescope contained many reports of optical tracking of Apollo 8.[5][12]
The first post-launch sightings were from the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory (SAO) station on Maui.[5] Many in Hawaii observed the trans-lunar injection burn near 15:44 UT on December 21.[13]

Chang'e 4

en.m.wikipedia.org...-2_rover


A few days after landing, Yutu-2 went into hibernation for its first lunar night and it resumed activities on January 29, 2019 with all instruments operating nominally. During its first full lunar day, the rover travelled 120 m (390 ft), and on 11 February 2019 it powered down for its second lunar night.[76][77] In May 2019, it was reported that Chang'e 4 has identified what appear to be mantle rocks on the surface, its primary objective.[78][79][80] In January 2020, China released a large amount of data and high-resolution images from the mission lander and rover.[81] In February 2020, Chinese astronomers reported, for the first time, a high-resolution image of a lunar ejecta sequence, and, as well, direct analysis of its internal architecture. These were based on observations made by the Lunar Penetrating Radar (LPR) on board the Yutu-2 rover while studying the far side of the Moon.[82][83]

Making the claim nothing man made ever mad it to lunar orbit, or the moon’s surface is plain ignorant.

a reply to: turbonium1
haha you're funny.

If a plane flying 400 mph flies upward, it may measure as a 500 feet/minute ascent. If the same plane is flying at 500 mph, and does the same ascent, it may measure a 700 feet/minute ascent. But, they both flew the same distance over the surface below, while they ascended.

Distance + air pressure + speed = flat Earth..

Your not making much sense. Lets work out your own flight over the ocean and plot it against your MAP.

Where did you take off from?
What time did you take off?
Where did you land?
What time did you land? ( use same time zone as take off,please)

So we can then look at your map and see how far it was then calculate speed of plane to match flight time.

IF you're really right then this is a good way of proving to all the disbelievers.
If you avoid answering, then your just a sad Troll, having fun during your once in 3 days computer time.

Stay safe and have fun

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo

CBS news coverage, showing exactly where the Apollo 11 crew were in EPO:

youtu.be...

Same for Apollo 10's launch:

There will be more, but frankly he's not worth the effort if he can't be bothered to search "Apollo Earth parking orbit charts" himself.

I asked you to show me the actual flight paths, which you said were 'readily available!

Is this supposed to be your idea of an Apollo flight path? I guess so, because why else would you show it?

Explain why you believe this is the Apollo 11 flight path...

I can explain why it is NOT a flight path, if you don't know, but I'm sure you DO know it, right?


But we know NASA has the actual flight paths, because they have shown us a cartoon-like path, and a huge 'rocket', moving along, in the middle of the Atlantic ocean!!

Another one shows a big rocket over the Indian Ocean, veering upward, to stay over the ocean, and avoid Australia, which would require the rocket to change its direction, which wastes more fuel, if the rocket is really there, and people think it is, when they see the 'path' it's on. I'm sure Australians would have liked to head north, and see this amazing rocket fly over them, too. The rocket is heading straight for Australia, when it goes over the Indian Ocean, according to their 'path' on TV!

Sorry, folks, our amazing rocket is veering upwards now, and will NOT fly over Australia, so don't bother heading north to see it, because you won't!

It's wasting precious fuel, but I'm sure you all understand it's done for your 'safety', and 'protection'!