Need help with strange occurrences

originally posted by: Gryphon66
I hope Jason will be back. However, in the meantime, let's not let the discussion drop or go to waste.

I'd never really thought about what kind of advice I would give to someone experiencing ... high strangeness, Forteana, UFO/Ghost/Cryptid phenomena that just wanted it to stop.

Anyone interested in discussing our ATS reaction to Jason's (I believe) heart-felt request for help?

What should we say in the future?

Gryphon66: You have shown strength, wisdom, and leadership. Bless you.

What about a sort of mentor-program, where all new members are paired with an experienced ATS'er, whom shows them the ropes, and explains about all of the various types of posters and such?

Perhaps with a delay of a couple of days before new-members could post, wherein they could only communicate privately back-and-forth with their new mentor. Not that the mentor would play police, but just the delay would discourage some of the amateur trolls. Would maybe have the effect of the "Really ATS" forum.

Update:

I haven't heard from Jason.

I see three possibilities:

1. He decided not to share his pictures with me, or anyone else here, in fear that they may be leaked.

2. He was contacted by the government after they saw this thread and realized he has ET footage. They took his film and told him to keep his mouth shut.

3. He was playing all of us.

I don't want to believe number 3, because I thought he was sincere and genuinely seeking help.

I just sent an email to him, so if he doesn't answer in the next day or so, I guess we can chalk this thread up as closed.

a reply to: Nothin

I'd just like to see us all be mentors to each other. For example i've been interested in these subjects my whole life, yet i had never before been confronted with someone who needed help. Not theory, not anecdotes ... Jason came here looking for assistance.

I was appalled that the best i could do was to say "move away."

I have tons of "book knowledge" and zero practical knowledge. I'm not religious so I couldn't even tell him to pray.

I hope Jason comes back. i hate the idea that he's up on that mountain facing this alone with his kids.

a reply to: sled735

I've been following along and Jason struck me as being very honest. IIRC there are other stories/reports of similar but smaller type beings in western Tennessee. The same type of thing, approaching the home, bothering the kids ect....
The difference is they were followed back to caves.

In sharing it was nice to see one finally got shot, confirming the corporeal aspect.

Obviously "some people" have problems with this, but in reality if something is legit and not to up to nefarious business it can just as well show up during the day. so to speak. The nighttime sneaking around speaks for itself, and NOT in any good way. The whole idea of NOT applying the same standards as we would being approached in the same way as a unknown human is ludicrous.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Nothin

I'd just like to see us all be mentors to each other. For example i've been interested in these subjects my whole life, yet i had never before been confronted with someone who needed help. Not theory, not anecdotes ... Jason came here looking for assistance.

I was appalled that the best i could do was to say "move away."

I have tons of "book knowledge" and zero practical knowledge. I'm not religious so I couldn't even tell him to pray.

I hope Jason comes back. i hate the idea that he's up on that mountain facing this alone with his kids.

Hey, plenty of us want left out of "the weird", & btw praying, invoking Jesus,doesn't get rid of it OR slow it down. (Altho I fully respect the beliefs of those whose tradition it is)

Moving away doesn't help as once "it" has taken an interest in you it just it'll follow you to the next place. Plenty of people have tried that.

I think Jason is doing the right thing in carving out his "territory" so to speak, and that may be the best any of us can do. Create personal boundaries however you can making it a VERY unpleasant experience for it to stick around. My feeling is plenty of other humans DO want the experiences with stuff and it should go bother THEM. Those that want left out of it should be.

a reply to: Caver78

I had an intuition about caves. Any pointers to online information?

a reply to: Caver78

Noted and agreed.

I had just never actually framed in my mind a way to respond proactively to what can only be seen (sorry Space Brothers) as attacks and harassment.

I know that's ... odd ... that I've never thought in practical terms regarding the phenomena.

It's odd to me too. Makes me wonder.

Rather than co-opting Jason's thread here, I've started a discussion in The Grey Area that I hope you will all participate in.

Link here: Defending Against Attacks/Harassment from High Strangeness Phenomena.

Please keep responding in this thread as well. I have a feeling that Jason may still be listening/reading.

Thanks.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Caver78

I had an intuition about caves. Any pointers to online information?

I've read some stories over the years about people seeing some type of creature running into a cave, and they said it was moving too fast to be an Earthly animal. Who knows? I wasn't there, so I can't say if they were aliens.
But, there are caves dating back thousands of years with paintings on the walls showing alien-type creatures.
This, at least, tells me they have been around for a long, long time.

Take a look at this site: Cave Paintings

a reply to: sled735

personally i feel it was a hoax, but what he was saying was believable because he knew his stuff, he knew all the incidences that heighten the chances of paranormal experiences, i feel he pretended to be computer illiterate, as it fitted nicely into his deception, if he wanted help in the things he was experiencing he would have got it here, after he showed the lurkers real evidence, no troll could prevent me from finding out information that could help my kids, and he displayed that same desire, judging by his posts, but didn't stick around and upload the pictures..... doesn't make sense, however i always give the people the benefit of the doubt, but will never accept anything anyone says to me as truth, anything is possible, especially the possibility that he was lying.
respect to you and gryphon though, for trying to help someone that looked to need help, though!

Just checked my email, and Jason answered me.

He said he has been busy with work, but he still intends on getting the pictures to me.
He's still having a problem getting them from the laptop to his phone without them being blurry.

He said he still intends to send to me. Also, he's having a problem getting his email to send outgoing messages.

What does it mean when it says to add email to default program? I don't know anything about phones, because I use my desktop for the internet.

originally posted by: sled735

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Caver78

I had an intuition about caves. Any pointers to online information?

I've read some stories over the years about people seeing some type of creature running into a cave, and they said it was moving too fast to be an Earthly animal. Who knows? I wasn't there, so I can't say if they were aliens.
But, there are caves dating back thousands of years with paintings on the walls showing alien-type creatures.
This, at least, tells me they have been around for a long, long time.

Take a look at this site: Cave Paintings

Yep, I've seen a lot of those glyphs. Large heads, big dark eyes, etc. Thanks for the link.

a reply to: Davg80

There are those of us who have dealt with "strange things" and those who haven't.

Those who haven't are so far out of the world they know they're ... lost, sometimes.

It's very embarrassing to some of them to even talk about these things (and that's not even taking into account any sort of conditioning they've received to NOT TALK about it.)

I think it's okay at times to allow that sometimes folks are coming from a totally subjective POV not objective.

YMMV.

a reply to: Caver78

I have decided to return because there are very few who wants to discuss this in private. It seems everyone wants to discuss it in public. I have messaged several people in attempts to gain information on what I'm dealing with. I have been reading and messaging those who seem to be honestly trying to help me. Very few message back. And u mentioned something about caves. Tracy city was a mining town. It has countless old mines and caves.i remember my grandfather telling me there was an old mining town on the state property we border. It was shut down and abandoned a long time ago. And I am not out to prove anything to anyone. I simply wish to put a stop to whatever is goin on.

a reply to: Jasonfra0388

I'm so happy you decided to return Jason!

Did you see the post I put up about the Stardust Ranch? Scroll back until you come to it. This guy reminds me of you. He didn't want any part of it, but it came with the ranch he bought... right smack dab in the middle of all kinds of high strangeness.

He keeps a big sword that he uses to cut off the ETs head. He said that seems to be the only way to get rid of them. Of course, more keep coming, but it has slowed them down.
There was one interview he did where an ET peeped around the door during the interview behind him.
Here is a portion of that interview:

a reply to: sled735

I did mam. I have been researching a lot. But the experiences I'm having differ from that individual in many different ways. I'm not sure what is legitimate information that I can make a basis from. I have two individuals who have contacted my privately but have not posted on here. They claIm what I am dealing with is extraterrestrial. They claim some kind of hybrid or something.

a reply to: Jasonfra0388

Just got in here to catch up. Good to see you are back! Ok, catching up now.

a reply to: Jasonfra0388

I have been reading and messaging those who seem to be honestly trying to help me. Very few message back.

Just so that you knw, sometimes the messaging system goes wacky. There are times when someone won't get a message even though one was sent. Sometimes a person will make a reply and the person that receives it, receives that same message multiple times. So if that ever happens again, try to message the person again. At the shed thread we sometimes alert someone right in the thread that they have a message, just in case they didn't see it.

originally posted by: Jasonfra0388
a reply to: sled735

I did mam. I have been researching a lot. But the experiences I'm having differ from that individual in many different ways. I'm not sure what is legitimate information that I can make a basis from. I have two individuals who have contacted my privately but have not posted on here. They claIm what I am dealing with is extraterrestrial. They claim some kind of hybrid or something.

Right, well, no two experiences are going to be EXACTLY the same. But the "thing" behind it happening could be.
In this case, the Gray ETs.
You want to learn how to get rid of them. This man says you have to cut off their heads.

I trust Kerry Cassidy most of the time. She gets her information from high-level sources in the military/government to validate what she puts out to the public. This guy's story could be very true, based on everything I've read myself from whistle-blowers in the UFO field that match what the others are saying.

a reply to: sled735

I have read about it. The creatures he is encountering are similar but the way he describes the creature abilities and stuff are different. Granted I don't know what I'm dealing with nor do I know what it is capable of