Found this video saying Easter is Pagan, is this really true?

Well I guess ok if you want to call Zoroastrianism pagan.

That influenced Christianity, and Islam.

originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: BStoltman

Like others have explained already, of course Easter is yet another Christian holiday copied from Pagans celebrations, it was one of the ways the church converted people.

Check again. The date (as I said in a previous message) was fixed by the Council of Nicea and was based on the Jewish Passover.

a reply to: Byrd

I wrote that in the first reply on page one. Just shows how much people read...

originally posted by: BStoltman
I recently found this video on Youtube, and he goes over all these supposedly facts, that Easter and its symbols are Pagan? Is he correct or full or crap?
Seems kinda sketchy.

Here is the link video, let me know your thoughts?
www.youtube.com...

Thanks for your ideas!

Dear ops
Most holidays we celebrate here in the west are pagan but with just some rebranding
Holidays

The Sumerian goddess Inanna, or Ishtar, was hung naked on a stake, and was subsequently resurrected and ascended from the underworld. One of the oldest resurrection myths is Egyptian Horus. Born on 25 December, Horus and his damaged eye became symbols of life and rebirth. Mithras was born on what we now call Christmas day, and his followers celebrated the spring equinox. Even as late as the 4th century AD, the sol invictus, associated with Mithras, was the last great pagan cult the church had to overcome. Dionysus was a divine child, resurrected by his grandmother. Dionysus also brought his mum, Semele, back to life.

Enjoy your spring equinox celebration

Bunnies are a leftover from the pagan festival of Eostre, a great northern goddess whose symbol was a rabbit or hare. Exchange of eggs is an ancient custom, celebrated by many cultures. Hot cross buns are very ancient too. In the Old Testament we see the Israelites baking sweet buns for an idol, and religious leaders trying to put a stop to it. The early church clergy also tried to put a stop to sacred cakes being baked at Easter. In the end, in the face of defiant cake-baking pagan women, they gave up and blessed the cake instead.

Blessed be the buns

originally posted by: Byrd
Check again. The date (as I said in a previous message) was fixed by the Council of Nicea and was based on the Jewish Passover.

I know, the Catholic church had to severe people's connection to the Jewish passover and make it a Christian celebration, I'm well aware of the Council of Nicea. It doesn't matter whether Jesus existed or not and whether he resurrected around Passover, what mattered was to bring people to the Catholic church by assimilating old celebrations.

You can't deny that Easter (as Christmas too) has assimilated many symbols and observances from the dozens of pagan religions that existed in Rome and throughout Europe. They too celebrated at the same time as the Jewish passover, hence every country celebrates differently and with different 'easter' food.

So I stand by what I wrote on my original post, and I also stand by what I said about the 'night of the living dead'.

originally posted by: verschickter
I wrote that in the first reply on page one. Just shows how much people read...

And your comment above shows how condescending you are....

a reply to: Agartha
first, you didn´t read the post either but I see you feel adressed....and your comment about my comment does not make you one bit better. Not one bit.

a reply to: BStoltman

Rabbits (sex), Eggs (fertility) etc...
Detailed info on Easter

pretty much all christian holidays are pagan holidays that the Christians took over

Yes, just like religions build churchs and temples on sites from other religions. It's basically a big game of Risk, but the consequences are much more severe.

Even if Easter is not pagan. Should it be a celebrated?

Jesus was charged with blasphemy (aka madman) and put to death for promoting himself as the saviour. So when
christianity had spread into Rome they had to work out an answer as to why Rome and the Jews had killed the divine son of GOD.

So Rome invented the doctine of original sin. That a single act by Adam and Eve was somehow a blight on all of humanity. In doing so they not only explained Jesus death but also his life's mission. To sacrifice himself for all of humanity.

So easter celebrates human sacrifice to GOD, based on the negation of a sin that was invented at least 100 years after his death.

No thanks.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Wookiep

Nope no bunnies in Ostara.
It's a marriage of the God and Godess.
A time to plant a time of fertility and a time of birth of domestic animals.
It is a renewal.

Wrong. Its MUCH older than that. There is a lot of controvery over "Ostara" being manufactured by a certain "scholar".

Easter, a Saxon pagan holiday deriving from the Goddess of Spring, Eastre. Its likely no doubt that the pronunciation would be closer to "ester", as heat is a theme of spring. Rebirth, goddesses, etc, etc.

a reply to: Advantage

Likely going back to the dawn of husbandry and domestication, if truth be told. Delineation among sexes is common throughout history. And mankinds propensity for metaphor allowed everything to be feminized/masculinized.

The holiday means to you, or me for that matter, what it means.

Resurrection of Christ? Cool. Natures rebirth? That's cool, too. What matters is what it means to you.

Many holidays have their roots in pagan belief dating back millennia. It would be more shocking if early Christianity hadn't borrowed from pagan belief, everyone else did.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Advantage

Likely going back to the dawn of husbandry and domestication, if truth be told. Delineation among sexes is common throughout history. And mankinds propensity for metaphor allowed everything to be feminized/masculinized.

A while back I told the origins.. even covers the ham/pork/wild boar, rabbits, eggs, and other customs still held today. Ishtar, Semaramis, Tammuz etc. From the dawn of recorded history.

a reply to: Advantage

you should link it here.

Understanding how the "corporatization" of our common human heritage by religiofascists has to be one of the great conspiracies of the last 8000 years is an important truth for people to be aware of, whether they agree or not.

Is Easter Really a Christian Celebration?
Easter or the Memorial—Which Should You Observe?

The Origin of Easter

The name Easter, used in many lands, is not found in the Bible. The book Medieval Holidays and Festivals tells us that “the holiday is named after the pagan Goddess of the Dawn and of Spring, Eostre.” And who was this goddess? “Eostre it was who, according to the legend, opened the portals of Valhalla to receive Baldur, called the White God, because of his purity and also the Sun God, because his brow supplied light to mankind,” answers The American Book of Days. It adds: “There is no doubt that the Church in its early days adopted the old pagan customs and gave a Christian meaning to them. As the festival of Eostre was in celebration of the renewal of life in the spring it was easy to make it a celebration of the resurrection from the dead of Jesus, whose gospel they preached.”

This adoption explains how in certain lands the Easter customs, such as Easter eggs, the Easter rabbit, and hot cross buns, came about. Concerning the custom of making hot cross buns, “with their shiny brown tops marked by a . . . cross,” the book Easter and Its Customs states: “The cross was a pagan symbol long before it acquired everlasting significance from the events of the first Good Friday, and bread and cakes were sometimes marked with it in pre-Christian times.”

Nowhere in Scripture do we find mention of these things, nor is there any evidence that the early disciples of Jesus gave them any credence. In fact, the apostle Peter tells us to “form a longing for the unadulterated milk belonging to the word, that through it [we] may grow to salvation.” (1 Peter 2:2) So why did the churches of Christendom adopt such obviously pagan symbols into their beliefs and practices?

The book Curiosities of Popular Customs answers: “It was the invariable policy of the early Church to give a Christian significance to such of the extant pagan ceremonies as could not be rooted out. In the case of Easter the conversion was peculiarly easy. Joy at the rising of the natural sun, and at the awakening of nature from the death of winter, became joy at the rising of the Sun of righteousness, at the resurrection of Christ from the grave. Some of the pagan observances which took place about the 1st of May were also shifted to correspond with the celebration of Easter.” Rather than steer clear of popular pagan customs and magical rites, the religious leaders condoned them and gave them “Christian significance.”

‘But is there any harm in that?’ you may wonder. Some think not. “When a religion such as Christianity comes to a people from outside, it adopts and ‘baptizes’ some of the folk customs which derive from older religions,” said Alan W. Watts, an Episcopal chaplain, in his book Easter—Its Story and Meaning. “It selects and weaves into the liturgy folk observances which seem to signify the same eternal principles taught by the Church.” To many, the fact that their church sanctioned these observances and treated them as holy is reason enough to accept them. But important questions are being overlooked. How does God feel about these customs? Has he given us any guidelines to follow in the matter?

Getting God’s Viewpoint
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What Does the Bible Say About Easter?

a reply to: Byrd

I would say you're right as far as the calculation of the date of the festival is conerned, but Easter is a spring fertility festival for all that.

My country, to which Christians contribute only about eight percent of the population, shuts down completely over or about the time of the Easter weekend. The occasion is not Easter but the local New Year -- which is celebrated by performing various rites, many of them clearly metaphors for fertility -- at astrologically auspicious times. In nearby Thailand, the festival is called Songkran and one of the rituals involves soaking people with water pistols -- pretty symbolic, eh?

Similar 'new year' festivals are celebrated in Malaysia. parts of India, etc, at the spring equinox.

I believe the people who say that Easter is a spring fertility festival are right. And I reckon the same is true of Passover -- doesn't it, too, symbolize a new beginning?

Note-
Many religions of this world are tied to what are called Pagan roots.
The Force is refocused with the interest of the celebrators'. Meaning some holidays may have had possible negative roots that would / could possibly be feeding malevolent sources. But... If some how the energy was refocused the energy of negative is reversed and then generates benevolence activities.
So to reiterate yes some holidays are connected to pagan roots, consider Saturnalia? Mythras-Christmas. And the Son of GOD as a child born after or near Passover? Tammuzid-Jesus Lord...

The Pagan Origin Of Easter


Easter is a day that is honered by nearly all of contemporary Christianity and is used to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
The holiday often involves a church service at sunrise, a feast which includes an "Easter Ham", decorated eggs and stories about rabbits.

Those who love truth learn to ask questions, and many questions must be asked regarding the holiday of Easter.

Is it truly the day when Jesus arose from the dead? Where did all of the strange customs come from, which have nothing to do with the resurrection of our Saviour?

The purpose of this tract is to help answer those questions, and to help those who seek truth to draw their own conclusions.

The first thing we must understand is that professing Christians were not the only ones who celebrated a festival called "Easter."

"Ishtar", which is pronounced "Easter" was a day that commemorated the resurrection of one of their gods that they called "Tammuz", who was believed to be the only begotten son of the moon-goddess and the sun-god.

www.lasttrumpetministries.org...

You can get five descriptions of a circle from five different perspectives such as:
Perspective:
A-sees a small circle
B-sees a big circle
C-sees a muave circle
D-sees a spinning circle
E-sees a supernatural circle
The point is they All seen a circle just as the religious rooting's speak of GOD(s) and THY Offspring...
So something is being transmitted through time.

1 HOPES YOU ALL* HAD AS PEACEFUL A EASTER/ISHTAR AS POSSIBLE

NAMASTE*******

a reply to: BStoltman

Yeah the day itself isn't pagan, it's holy but Easter the name actually is, it came from Estar the false god of fertility, that's why there are eggs on Easter.

Christmas was also hijacked.

Even the names of the disciples

John - Toilet
Peter - You know what that's slang for

Many positive things in Christianity have been hijacked and turned against the original message.

a reply to: BStoltman

In a word, no. I looked into this extensively, some years back, to learn for myself whether or not these allegations were true or not. I don't believe they are true. For starters, the claimed "pagan deity" doesn't exist, anywhere save in discussions from Bede (who only speculated about such a deity) and from later people discussing his work. Second, the terms used for the name seem to clearly come from old German words for dawn and resurrection. There are some groups around that want to claim all believers should be following Jewish holidays, along with other ridiculous claims, and there are others who simply want to distract from what is actually celebrated on Easter, which is the resurrection of the Savior, Jesus.

You can do your own research on the terms, and the lack of historical evidence for the claimed deity, and see for yourself how weak is the case for pagan origins for Easter.