As a Muslim this is what I feel about the migrant crisis in Europe

a reply to: firefromabove

The fact the other ARAB countries won't accept the own kind is even more interesting and forces them to head for Europe.

a reply to: dragonridr

Some categories are better, some worse.

I suspect however that many things considered crimes in the west are not in the Arab nations. Wife beating is one glaring example.

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: firefromabove

The fact the other ARAB countries won't accept the own kind is even more interesting and forces them to head for Europe.

Is it that they are not accepted or the just don't want to go there ?

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: firefromabove

The fact the other ARAB countries won't accept the own kind is even more interesting and forces them to head for Europe.

Thats simply not true there resources are being stretched to the breaking point. Even countries like saudi arabia put alot of money into UN facilities for syria.

originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: dragonridr

Some categories are better, some worse.

I suspect however that many things considered crimes in the west are not in the Arab nations. Wife beating is one glaring example.

Arab countries Murder would tend to be higher because lets face it its more acceptable. You see your government beheading people i think it tends to desensitize the public. Then the other problem i watched a show about honor killings it is sad that young girls die needlessly

a reply to: markosity1973

An excellent Point! I'd love to know how in he hell Islam got a foothold in the West in first place. Perhaps Prince Charlie can offer a bit of insight eh?

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: 2x35x1

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: 2x35x1

Your statement is ignorant. You know nothing about the rich tradition of the Islamic faith that is as rich and intellectually and spiritually active than any religion.

So all the 2 billion Muslims want to just rule the world and not fulfill the elaborate theology in their faith.

Yes so many good women and children in Europe have experienced as you say. "the rich tradition of the Islamic faith that is as rich and intellectually and spiritually active than any religion." wile they have been raped by muslims

Islam has been around more than 1400 years. Like anything human, it has good and bad in it.

It is responsible for the renaissance of Europe in a lot of regard, and historian will tell you that.


All religions have periods of trouble; look at the religious wars in Europe that killed millions, many more than today’s terrorism.

Actually more Muslims are dead because of American wars in the ME not terrorism

There are many moderate good Muslims, you’ve been reading bigoted propaganda.

There is very little good if any at all in the political cult of islam, one has only to look how the followers of this political cult are behaving in Europe ( Sweden has the highest rape figures in Europe thanks to this cult) The people of Europe have see the true face of this cult pretending to be a religion. Even the wimp leaders of Europe can see the good people have had enough, change is coming and the good people of Europe want this cult dealt with, if the wimp leaders wont do it the people will. islam has lost already, it just does not understand it yet

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Is it that they are not accepted or the just don't want to go there ?

I believe they have no housing, health or benefits systems!!

a reply to: 2x35x1

Sweden has the highest rape statistics because the legal definition of rape in that country, as has been explained countless times. Nothing to do with Islam or migration.

For what I see, the change that is coming is more terrorism committed by neo-Nazis (Dortmund, Canada, Thomas Mair...).

originally posted by: twfau
a reply to: 2x35x1

Sweden has the highest rape statistics because the legal definition of rape in that country, as has been explained countless times. Nothing to do with Islam or migration.

For what I see, the change that is coming is more terrorism committed by neo-Nazis (Dortmund, Canada, Thomas Mair...).

This is what the Swedish government wants the world to believe, but the fact is there have been many researches done that all point powerfully to the fact that Sweden is the rape capital of Europe and its because of muslims. Swedish police have told that there are 65 no go places in Sweden all of them under muslim control , the rape and incest in there places is just unbelievable. Parts of Stockholm and Malmö and many other places are just out of control with muslim rape gangs running wild. A few years ago i was shown round these places and talked to young women including young muslims. I can tell you any respect I had for islam ended that day. Go online find the reports if you have the balls.

a reply to: 2x35x1

Are you talking about the Gatestone Institute and their mis-representation of the Swedish Crime Statistics? They certainly show a 1,400% rise in rape stats, and you can clearly see how this rise came after the changes in law. They even show some decreases in last couple of years when immigration was stepped up. The Gateshouse institute just focuses on the 1,400% figure and immediately shouts 'migrants'.

They also peddled the 'no-go' area idea which the police have denied, so okay you say the Swedish police have an agenda to debunk it, but so do Islamaphobic media who promote it, who you believe I guess depends on who confirms your prejudice. We had the same stories of no-go areas in England but none of that was true.

Swedish cities have also had gang problems since the mid-90s and yes it is true that these gangs appear to have taken advantage of the fact that there are unemployed, bored young migrants available. This is negative consequence of the migration policy which is a fault of the government but gangland culture is not specific to Islam.

That said, if you have been reading better research than me let me know, I have read many little stories about bad muslims/migrants, I could show you just as many stories about bad non-muslims/migrants. Police recently uncovered 55,000 images of child abuse on a Norwegian man's computer which kind of tells me it's not just a Swedish problem.

a reply to: dragonridr

PLEASE show me evidence of tens of thousands walking across that part of the world to Saudi Arabia or any other in that region.

a reply to: wmd_2008

Over the past several months, we have been constantly fed graphics and analysis like the one below from Luay Al-Khatteeb, a fellow of the Brookings Institution. They have indicated that Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE have apparently taken zero Syrian refugees. The claim has been cited by nearly every Western publication. A cursory search returns venerable sources including Foreign Policy, the Washington Post, and CNN all falling for the myth.

Western Media’s Miscount of Saudi Arabia’s Syrian Refugees

You're welcome.

Islam worries me because its ideology is anti-everyone-else. Islam has never been tolerant of any other religion living within its borders in the way you and I might understand the word "tolerant". They had to pay a tax called the "Jizya", which was whatever amount the local Muslims felt like charging.

en.wikipedia.org...

You end up with people living around you who believe as a matter of faith that they have the right to demand a tax from you, and if you don't pay, then they have the right to rob you (or worse) until you pay.

Surely not all Muslims believe in this particular doctrine, but it's clearly stated in the Hadiths, so any Muslim who doesn't believe in it is doing some serious intellectual juggling. Quite a lot of cognitive dissonance there. (And I trust people who practice double think even less than I trust people who demand tribute.)

I'm not opposed to them because they wear a silly hat, or bow to the East. That stuff doesn't matter to me. But if you tell me straight up that you intend to rob me, that does tend to make me distrust you. Or if you tell me you believe it is God's will for you to rob me, but that you don't plan to......... that makes me REALLY distrust you.

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Is it that they are not accepted or the just don't want to go there ?

I believe they have no housing, health or benefits systems!!

Lucky then they do in Europe

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: dragonridr

PLEASE show me evidence of tens of thousands walking across that part of the world to Saudi Arabia or any other in that region.

en.wikipedia.org...

These camps are supported by arab nations.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

REALLY show me news reports of tens of thousands of refugees crossing multiple borders into Arab countries just one.

As for other comments I have seen and spoken to people where I live in Scotland being intimidated threatened and verbally abused by muslim youths mainly towards women.

Also people being threatened for walking through predominantly muslim areas carrying alcohol.

Hundreds allowed to jump housing lists when many of the local population sleep on the streets.

YOU ARE VERY WELCOME

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: PublicOpinion

REALLY show me news reports of tens of thousands of refugees crossing multiple borders into Arab countries just one.

As for other comments I have seen and spoken to people where I live in Scotland being intimidated threatened and verbally abused by muslim youths mainly towards women.

Also people being threatened for walking through predominantly muslim areas carrying alcohol.

Hundreds allowed to jump housing lists when many of the local population sleep on the streets.

YOU ARE VERY WELCOME

You are clueless do you realize there is over 1.8 million refugees in Turkey. Lebanon has taken in 1.2 million and jordan has 628000. Oh Iraq 247000 and even egpt has taken in 133000. These are all far more than any western nation has taken on.So just admit you were wrong that middle eastern countries have taken in refugees. and you fell for bias information off some web site. By the way scotland has 1200 drop in the bucket compared to other countries huh?

originally posted by: twfau
a reply to: 2x35x1

Are you talking about the Gatestone Institute and their mis-representation of the Swedish Crime Statistics? They certainly show a 1,400% rise in rape stats, and you can clearly see how this rise came after the changes in law. They even show some decreases in last couple of years when immigration was stepped up. The Gateshouse institute just focuses on the 1,400% figure and immediately shouts 'migrants'.

They also peddled the 'no-go' area idea which the police have denied, so okay you say the Swedish police have an agenda to debunk it, but so do Islamaphobic media who promote it, who you believe I guess depends on who confirms your prejudice. We had the same stories of no-go areas in England but none of that was true.

Swedish cities have also had gang problems since the mid-90s and yes it is true that these gangs appear to have taken advantage of the fact that there are unemployed, bored young migrants available. This is negative consequence of the migration policy which is a fault of the government but gangland culture is not specific to Islam.

That said, if you have been reading better research than me let me know, I have read many little stories about bad muslims/migrants, I could show you just as many stories about bad non-muslims/migrants. Police recently uncovered 55,000 images of child abuse on a Norwegian man's computer which kind of tells me it's not just a Swedish problem.

Please inform your handler that the system he is using is the same as used by the holocaust deniers ,and that it is very out of date. The truth has been seen by millions and millions of people in Sweden. All that can be said is that the cult of islam is culturally enriching the people of Europe by raping and killing. I shall say to you the same as I say to all hate filled holocaust deniers, “When lies are loved more than the truth, evil lives in your heart”. You should also remember that action speaks louder than words, and the actions of muslims around the world screams of the evil in there hearts.

a reply to: dragonridr

The 1200 is not a drop in the bucket when there are fellow Scots sleeping on the streets and some of thise refugees were FLOWN in and given housing and other benefits straight away.

Also plenty of youtube videos of young Muslims across Europe threatening to take over the country's they have settled in.

Houndreds if thousands are niw in Europe and more still tyring to get in.