MSNBC's Putin Trump chemical attack conspiracy theory

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: allsee4eye

Funny they investigated Hillary's email server for over a year and the benghazi thing for what five years?
And there are still people out there who think they missed something.
You really can't put a time frame on an investigation. It takes as long as I takes.
One would think his supporters would want to see him fully exonerated of these charges leaving no doubt to even those who don't support him.

There are facts around the Hillary investigation. We know Hillary improperly destroyed, stored, and disseminated classified material. 3 things any common person would've been thrown in jail for. I'd just leave her out of this debate because when it comes to known facts these stories aren't even comparable. This story isn't anything but another conspiracy theory being distributed as facts to the left by liberal media.

Especially in light of the fact that the Bush and Trump White Houses use private email servers, as does Jason Chaffetz, Trey Gowdy, etc.

The Clinton email thing was political theatre, nothing more; it accomplished its purpose of helping to keep her out of the White House --- time to accept that and move on.

a reply to: allsee4eye

Well a theory usually has some credibility before it can be called a theory - this thread and the article in its own word's says it's WAY OUT THERE

"Convoluted and Evidence Free"

I call FAKE Thread

from the link

A slightly more convoluted strain on the left: Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the chemical weapons massacre to help Trump — distracting Americans from an investigation into Trump's campaign ties to Russia by provoking the missile strike. That theory — evidence-free — was laid out on a small anti-Trump website

a reply to: allsee4eye

But they are doing something.
They are still investigating.
Do you think these guys just throw together some shoddy piece of work and say well that's fine?
When they finally present their findings it should leave no doubt at all that the results are accurate.

There is certainly enough to be suspicious of.
You act like there's nothing questionable in anything they've done and that is classic head burying behavior.

Sorry not clicking a random source that says "link" you post no information from the source....this could be anything including a virus,or anything else....and all of your threads are like that , have we stopped requirements for thread making on ATS?

As to the theory, it some nds bogus....I think it's nothing more than Trump brovado and the gov bloodlust to oust Assad ....because nation but doing and killing off leaders has gone OH so well for us....

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Testimony is not enough to indict. Because people can lie. Only hard physical evidences like audio, video, text, photo can indict.

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

You don't know any such thing. She was told to remove her personal stuff.
She did not personally do that. She had lawyers and state dept staff do it.
They did not read every line of every email. They qued in on key words and themes.
Yes some got deleted that shouldn't have. She wasn't responsible for it.

Bottom line is....she's a free woman today because she didn't commit a crime.
But hey thanks for making my point that some will never believe it. It's almost like you worked for me on that post.

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

And sure that whole thing wasn't political?

GMAB

a reply to: Gryphon66

No, there isn't a comparison. They didn't hire private IT guys to setup illegal servers in their personal home to house highly classified information. Big difference.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The link is to the Washington post. It's their legitimate site because I subscribe to the WP and it had my member name at the top of the page.
The article talked about two different conspiracies.
The alt right false flag theory and the Putin helped trump theory.
The article is ligit and presents neither of these theories as fact.
It simply reports that these theories exist.

a reply to: allsee4eye

Not true.
That's why you have to swear to tell the truth.
You go to JAIL if you lie on the stand.

Lots of convictions have happened with witness testimony alone.

a reply to: allsee4eye

What the MSNBC morons don't like is the very real confrontation of US against Russia amid the US targeting of the airbase in Syria.

They didn't like the reaction of Russia, because their bread and butter for the last few months to save face since the allegations of fake news and the vicious attack on the Trump administration is the collusion of Trump and Russia over elections.

Their fake world is crumbling away.

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Neither did Clinton.
They set up a server for convenience not to commit crimes.
And the server was NOT ILLEGAL.

a reply to: marg6043

It was one reporter who put forth a conspiracy theory. MSNBC is in no way supporting any story that Putin did this to help trump. It's not their story it's the postulated theory of a single reporter.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Neither did Clinton.
They set up a server for convenience not to commit crimes.
And the server was NOT ILLEGAL.

Go ahead stick your fingers in your ears and only hear what you want to hear. Doesn't matter to me either way. Facts are facts. No matter if you like them or not.

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Facts are facts?.

Like the FBI investigated the private email thing and found no crime to have been committed, but Trump wouldn't shut up about it, and the fact he wouldn't shut up about it makes the lies he spewed into truths?.

It's a fact because the Trumpanzee said so?.

Something very wrong in this country...

a reply to: Sillyolme

Yes, It was one moron reporter the one that did the story, or let say bring the conspiracy, but within a few hours we got here in ATS the rhetoric of his conspiracy, what that tells you.

Very simple, people tend to repeat what they want to hear.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Pence didn't use a private server. Pence used AOL mail which is a public company. Hillary should have never set up a private server in secret only to be discovered.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Bill Clinton lied under oath about Monika Lewinsky. That theory of yours went out the window decades ago.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Here's the only fact we really know: Donald Trump completely reversed his entire policy position on military intervention on Syria.

Or how many politicians lied to the public on their campaign platform and then reversed themselves after gaining office?

All of them, all the time. They get selected not elected for their ability to fool the public. They are liars or they ain't politicians, not even allowed to come anywhere close to the Halls of Power.

Imagine a movie script, film set and actors where one actor keeps ruining the production by turning to the camera and saying, its all fake, its just a movie. That person is fired.

Follow the script, don't break character.

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: DJW001

Nothing in today's world that finds nothing in 9 months will ever find anything. There is no audio recording. There is no photo recording. There is no video recording. There is no text recording. The only way left to find something is testimony of Trump and / or Putin under oath. And we all know that will never happen. Ergo, even if the investigation goes on for another 8 years, absolutely nothing will come of it.

Then perhaps (drawing on logic , I know it hard and you have to strain) there is nothing ?