US launches Tomahawks on Syrian airbases

Trump is a dumbass for this, there is zero motivation for Assad to have attacked with chemical weapons. Between the US changing their tune on Syrian regime change, and Moscow recently stating that they DON'T support Assad unconditionally, it's every motivation to NOT do something like this. Things were actually starting to swing more and more in Assad's favor, it makes absolutely ZERO sense for him to have done it.

Now Moscow is considering cancelling military cooperation with the US in Syria, taking it to the UNSC, and calling it a violation of international law, which it probably is.

This was a huge mistake, even if Assad actually did it. We need to butt the eff out of that area for a long while.

It seems it would be easy to track Assad these days and lets say 20 missile right on top of his place would not only save 30 missile but end the problem rather quickly. I have always wonder why we assume the problem is untouchable and the masses are expendable.

During the revolutionary war we went after the officers and that completely disrupted the forces though the Brits saw it as barbaric tactics...

Horrible idea. 300,000 people killed already in Syria, hundreds of thousands more in Libya. 60,000,000 displaced people globally and no one has learned nothing yet, what a sad world we live in.

originally posted by: Vector99
Trump is a dumbass for this, there is zero motivation for Assad to have attacked with chemical weapons. Between the US changing their tune on Syrian regime change, and Moscow recently stating that they DON'T support Assad unconditionally, it's every motivation to NOT do something like this.

It is hard to tell what the Middle East sees as right or wrong. In this case maybe he thinks Russia would get more involved with a war against America, or even what if his own commanders did it without his notice or support to get him ousted quicker so that they can take over.

Has Assad said anything yet?

a reply to: EternalShadow

You're overlooking my point...how did an air asset (most likely an airforce TACP or JTAC) on the ground know to film that exact strike?? IF 'professionally' filmed I could see it as Intel gathering, in which aircraft identification would be included as well making it a slam dunk. However, it isn't. IF it's amateur footage, how in the F# did they know????

we have special forces on the ground, i'm sure that they have TACP or JTAC with them.
and if i recall there were stories about ISIS in the area and were pulling out or maybe other targets. could have been looking to target them and caught the gas attack.

There's a military coup underway in Russia.

LOP forum just got hit for having that info posted there. It got hit just a couple of minutes after the posting.

That must've been a full-on panic response by somebody in the U.S. since it was just a guess of what was most likely to happen in the future, but somebody in the U.S. power structure has just confirmed it (as an urgent and ongoing matter) by hitting LOP like they did.

A tragic disaster of clusterf**k proportions has just begun.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Not anywhere that I've seen, even Moscow is being very quiet on any official statements other than they plan on taking it to the UNSC, and calling it a violation of international law. Haven't seen any official statements from Assad or Putin just yet.

I doubt Assad would push those buttons though, as Russia is actually calling for official international investigation into the chemical attack before deciding any resolutions or actions. Then Trump bombs them. While I'm not a Trump supporter, I'm typically sympathetic with his actions. Not this time.

a reply to: clusterfok

We need a link please.

If this doesnt somehow trickle into a master play by Trump to stay 2 steps ahead of the spin cycle,
then as a guy who voted for Trump, i may have to call this Strike 2. Strike 1 being the Trumpcare dissapointment.

I am holding my breathe however that both of these issues are merely still playing out and that we simply dont have the intel to make an educated assessment...

I mean, Trump is good at this. And if he has to be a step ahead of the establishment and his opponents, then SURELY us peons are so completely in the dark about whats really going on that we may as well not even be spectating....

I can imagine a scenario where this attack IS a false flag, but that Trump knows it, and that he is using this face-value response to pop a couple caps in some targets which may in fact be the "bad guys"... There HAS to be someone worth bombing over there and maybe he hit the right guy, but made it look like he fell for the narrative on the worlds stage...

I gotta hope...

a reply to: Xtrozero
I've seen and read quite a few interviews that Assad has had and one of things that always astounds me is how much more reasonable and intelligent he comes off in comparison to the cliche "deranged psychopathic religious dictator" that the media paint him as.

Everything he says in his defense actually makes a hell of a lot more sense than the narrative our politicians and MSM have been shoving down our throats.

Anyone with half a brain should be able to tell there's something not right about events leading up to this all.

Assad has nothing to gain by attacking his own citizens with chemical weapons, in fact he likely has everything to lose by doing so - and yet with the blame being irrationally placed on Assad for the attack, who stands to benefit the most? Those that want Assad out. Be it for control, oil pipelines, etc. There are plenty of incentives out there to be sure.

I for one hope that Russia makes a real stand in Syria's/Assad's defense here.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: EternalShadow

You're overlooking my point...how did an air asset (most likely an airforce TACP or JTAC) on the ground know to film that exact strike?? IF 'professionally' filmed I could see it as Intel gathering, in which aircraft identification would be included as well making it a slam dunk. However, it isn't. IF it's amateur footage, how in the F# did they know????

we have special forces on the ground, i'm sure that they have TACP or JTAC with them.
and if i recall there were stories about ISIS in the area and were pulling out or maybe other targets. could have been looking to target them and caught the gas attack.

I'm still not sure you're clear about what I'm implying... the "DEFINITIVE" filming of an otherwise 'surprise' attack would include the method of distribution (the aircraft identification and possible call sign) along with flight plan, ( which is satellite tracked or with AWACS) within the AO.

There can be NO MISTAKES WHAT THE AIRCRAFT TYPE IS, WHEN IT WAS IDENTIFIED, AND WHERE IT WAS GOING!! ALL IS KNOWN WITHIN AN AO!!! WITH THAT KNOWN, WHAT'S WITH AMBIGUITY ABOUT HOW IT PLAYED OUT??? ITS NOT LIKE WE HAVE THE RED BARON UP THERE CAUSING HAVOC....EVERYTHING!!!! EVERYTHING!!!!! IS MONITORED, ANALYZED, IDENTIFIED.

SO.....a more important question would be, WHAT'S THE AIRCRAFT TYPE AND WHO KNEW THE PAYLOAD!!!!???

Understand where I'm getting at??

I'm putting out the feelers before we see the footage that will cannonize the public.

Bomb the sick bastards

Trumps a business man at heart and thus he sorts out problems by passing the problem down the line to the people who know actually how to deal with it.

Probably after a quick chat with the military professions and the spooks he gave the orders to do what seemed appropriate, i'll be 6ft under by the time they release that conversation thats for sure.

As he's not quite and idiot he gave warning that the smack was going to be laid down to the Russians and also anyone friendly who might of been in the area to leg it shall we say as it probably wouldn't be fun to look up and see a missile landing 10 ft away from you.

Politically it sends a message that the new administration aint pussy footing around and if someone needs an arse kicking then they'll get it.

a reply to: clusterfok

Cmon,show some form or don't post. A Link that says ur not talking # would be good.

originally posted by: Denoli
Bomb the sick bastards

Behind schedule.
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing with Iran.

Russia is pissed, this just breaking.
Russia suspends Moscow-Washington deal on flights safety in Syria

a reply to: D8Tee

Yeah, like a decade behind schedule.

Still tho, it does appear their goal is still in place. Maybe we can make it a century behind schedule. *shrug*

a reply to: Navieko

You are right about Assad.
I believe a fair comparison can be made to Ghadaffi... From what I saw, a man of the people with the will and a plan to get some stuff done, but not playing ball with the globalists...

Ugh, look how that turned out...

If Trump really sold out.... man....
Lets just say i know a couple good ol boys who are sick and tired of the BS, and Trump really was the last hope. These guys have 0 craps left to give.
I dont think my half of the country can afford to be let down this hard if Trump really sold out.
Gonna make pink-***sey-hat day look like... well pink ***sey hat day i guess lol

One thing is for sure..the leader of North Korea is not spending the few weeks sleeping at home... he will be sleeping a various locations for a while.

a reply to: Vector99

Hmmmmm...

That deflection/distraction phenomenon just keeps popping up since about the middle of last year...

From one thing to the next thing to the next thing to the next thing.

Distractions to deflect the distraction from the distraction before.

Done Gone Full Retard.
D.G.F.R.