US launches Tomahawks on Syrian airbases

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: 2012newstart
RT: Russia has suspended the memorandum of understanding on flight safety in Syria with the United States amid the US missile strike on Syria’s Shayrat military airfield, according to the Russian Foreign Ministry’s statement.

Seems things go to new standoff US Russia

Time to turn on the stealth...

Hopefully the S-500 system isn't ready for deployment yet.

My hat is off the Trump on this one. Just watched the address he gave that was televised live in the US: www.bbc.com...

Five months into his presidency, he became president earlier tonight. I can hear genuine emotion in his voice and see it in his eyes. I still think he is a vile human being, I still hope that he doesn't get anywhere near a second term. But tonight I see that he is a human being, on some level, not the narcissistic sociopath I normally see when I look at him.

He did the absolute correct thing in ordering the strike, the circumstance and sources (such as they are at the moment) certainly suggests that the SAAF dropped the munitions containing nerve agents (military grade radar doesn't lie), destroying the airbase - a purely military target of immense value to the Syrians - is a downright sensible and measured response.

I feel like the Syrians and to a lesser extent the Russians were expecting it to be business as usual in Syria. Trump saw that Obama looked weak after repeated violations of Obama's 'red line' on chemical weapons and resolved that his administration would show no such weakness, even at the risk of alienating allies (namely Russia.)

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: nickovthenorth
a reply to: carewemust

Ahh fair enough, thanks...i do now have to ask though why not just turn up the yield and use a half dozen or so then instead of 50 at how ever many $$$ these things cost.

Because the targets were separated by hundreds of yards. For one missile to take out 3 or 4 targets, a lot more men and women would have died. We didn't want to blow up the barracks, mess hall, etc..

thanks, limit the human cost, cant argue with that.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Wow..good info. Thanks! If I wasn't so sleepy, I'd start a thread entitled, "U.S.- Russia Relations Are Deteriorating Rapidly!"

We'll need a thread to post the escalations over the next few days. Maybe one of our members will do the honor.

pfff ... Tomahawks ? in 2017? I was expecting laser guns and space BBs

Just fuel conspiracy theories about failure in development of modern weaponry.

#Syria #Homs UNCONFIRMED Video Claiming to be the sounds and moment US Tomahawk Missiles Hit the Shayrat military airfield

Its from quite a distance in the dark of night. But you can her explosions and see a few. Could be this attack, could be something from some other time. Cant really tell with a 13 second video, but it COULD be part of it.

Im checking out, I need to rest up. Please everyone keep an eye on ANYTHING going on in Syria by any and all factions with syria.liveuamap.com... Clicking on an event will give you a time and synopsis of what occurred, with a link to the source at the bottom of each event.

Lets not allow the narrative to be controlled for us, lets all do our own research and present as many facts as possible! We have to stop accepting speculation and hearsay as evidence and gospel. We must deny ignorance!!

He just became a saddled useful emotional idiot puppet. Sad but predictable as we all knew he's not very clever unlike for example Ron Paul.

Yippieh, the world police once again...
Against international law the Divided States of Trump attacked a souverain nation, which never attacked the DST.
That is called a war of aggression, under sane people, isn´t it?

No evidence of Assad being the mastermind, but hey, just attack another nation because of... western MSM propaganda, the military industrial complex, "White Helmets", because of the so called one man anti Assad propaganda show called "Syrian Observatory for Human Rights", because certain circles want Assad to fall, like Ghaddafi fell, like Saddam fell, etc. If the west doesn´t need anybody anymore, he has to disappear(because he knows too much about all the western dirty tricks he was used for years for?)

The former USA back in it´s old business as worldpolice that is doing, for sure, the only right thing(from the former USAs perspective)...
If WWIII gets hot, the world knows who is the reason for it!
(Psst, it´s not Russia, China or NK...)

Isn´t that what all "empires" tried before they fell apart, trying to save themselves from breaking apart, with a war?

a reply to: Ohanka


We'll know that the situation with Russia has become serious if Congress is told to cancel their 2-week Easter recess and return to Washington. That will mean war is imminent.

a reply to: carewemust
We get played time and time again
Trump needs some ratings and its a perfect opportunity
Tell the Russians you're doing it so none of them get hurt...they can posture later.
Nothing will come of it. Send a big message all over...

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: carewemust
Tell the Russians you're doing it so none of them get hurt...they can posture later.
Nothing will come of it. Send a big message all over...

Except something DID come of it, already.

Russia suspended the memorandum on flights safety in Syria.

Well, I think the purpose of this strike was more to show everybody that the U.S. government has the ability and resolve to act directly in Syria, if provoked.

Although the Assad regime might very well be behind the gas attack, it doesn't ultimately matter. The message has been sent, and received, and everybody must now sit back and weigh their options. It's exactly the same thing the Russians did, a while back.

Sadly, I fear that it has been a while since morality, decency and compassion played any real part in world politics, except for reasons of public relations and propaganda.

That's the world we have made for ourselves, with our endless greed and cynicism.

BT

a reply to: DBCowboy

This was an interesting read.
ronpaulinstitute.org...

Moscow suspends US-Russia memorandum on flights safety in Syria

Russia suspends the Memorandum on preventing incidents and ensuring flights safety during operations in Syria earlier signed with the United States in the wake of the US strike on the Syrian airbase, the Russian Foreign Ministry reported on Friday.

"The Russian side suspends the memorandum on the prevention of incidents and on ensuring the safety of flights in the course of operations in Syria, concluded with the United States," the statement runs. "We urge the United Nations Security Council to meet in urgent session to discuss the current situation."
The United States last night carried out an attack against Syrian government troops using the chemical incident in Idlib province as a pretext.
"It is obvious that the strike with US cruise missiles had been prepared beforehand," the Russian Foreign Ministry said. "It is clear to any specialist that the decision to deal the strikes was made in Washington before the events in Idlib, which were used as a pretext for a show of muscle. It is beyond doubt that the US military strike is an attempt to distract attention from the situation in Mosul, where as a result of actions by the US coalition hundreds of civilians died and the humanitarian disaster is growing."
Without taking the trouble to look into the situation the United States opted for the show of muscle, for military resistance to a country that fights against international terrorism," the Foreign Ministry said. "This is not the first time that the United States takes such a reckless approach, which merely exacerbates the world’s problems and poses a threat to international security."
The Russian Foreign Ministry has more than once declared its readiness for cooperation in tackling burning problems of today, including the struggle against international terrorism.
"But we will never agree to illegitimate actions against the legal Syrian authorities, who have for a long time been involved in irreconcilable war on international terrorism," the statement runs.

"In its attempts to excuse the military strike Washington utterly distorted the events in Idlib," the Foreign Ministry said. "The US side cannot but be aware that Syria’s government forces did not use chemical weapons there. Damascus does not have any, which has more than once been confirmed by competent specialists. The corresponding conclusions were made by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, which over the past years has inspected practically all facilities that had or might have been involved in Syria’s chemical weapons program. As for Idlib, terrorists there were making bombs stuffed with poisonous chemicals for their subsequent use in Syria and Iraq. That facility was eliminated by the Syrian Air Force."

You know what I'd like? to sit in one of the ships at night, pull a fat cigar, some rock'n'roll music and watch the birds fly to their targets.


*Insert Irony*

originally posted by: Ohanka
Probably not a good idea to read Islamic State Propaganda.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Make of it what you will, seems to be a moot point anyway.

I just saw the pictures of the kids Assad killed. I think I changed my mind about not caring because of the camel urine thing.
What a monster Assad is! I usually have a hard heart, but those pictures of those kids gassed laid out in the back of that truck made my eyes water a few drops.

Why doesn't Assad just abdicate the thrown in favor of an Islamic parliament with powers divided between the opposing forces? It seems to me that it would be the selfless thing to do to resolve the problem, rather than try to retain power by brute force.

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
History shows that many dictatorships have no regard for their fellow countrymen. look at Pol pot and chairman Mao-between those two regimes over 100 million people died but many nations sat and procrastinated.

Really - that's the best you got? I have zero interest in what your "history shows". I'm interested in the facts. And the fact is, Assad is the democractically elected President of Syria - and is not a crazed or stupid man. All the evidence points to the contrary, someone who is certainly not dumb/vile enough to do the things he's accused of - as it would serve absolutely no purpose to his or his country's best interests.

And yet we don't even stop and consider just for a second that maybe, just maybe the attack was done by those that don't want him in power?

Wouldn't that make a hell of a lot more sense? Or you'd rather do away with logic and stick your head in the sand instead of facing the hard truth that maybe your political leaders are up to no good?

a reply to: Miracula2

Who told you Assad gassed them ?

Let me guess ...



Is Syria Gas Attack A False Flag?

I do not know how many aircraft the Tomahawks destroyed but they surely badly damaged the airport and its infrastructure at the least. Most probable reason for the attack was to weaken Assad's air-force so that the US supported sa called "moderate rebels" would get an advantage.