Trump can now tap money from his business, raising ethics concerns

a reply to: windword

Why does he suddenly need to draw from money that he promised the American people was locked away in the blind trust?

The assets and control therof are administered by the Trustees...Trump is entitled to distributions....

a reply to: Byrd

He can't donate it without reducing his own value.

The only answer, if its determined this is a conflict, is to punish either him or his company. Either he has to pay, or the company misses out on the business he would have otherwise provided.

Should he be made to under perform?

What im getting at is, from the perspective of an accountant and business person, i have no idea how to do what you want without punishing a business or the president. Or the US Taxpayer. Obviously we should ask him to show reasonable restraint...but that is obviously beyond him.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Don't tell me to calm down first of all.

Second, you obviously haven't read any of the information provided in this thread which is why what you just said is incorrect.

Third, the argument that he's donating his salary means nothing. His trips to Mar-a-Largo costs are already into the millions of dollars.

originally posted by: mOjOm
His trips to Mar-a-Largo costs are already into the millions of dollars.

What proof do you have of this claim?

a reply to: allsee4eye

Google it. It's easy to find.

a reply to: mOjOm

It seems to be speculation, not proof, since they don't have specific numbers.

a reply to: allsee4eye

I wouldn't call it speculation exactly. More like an estimate and there are plenty of figures. They're trying to figure out the exact cost actually because it's now being researched to find out exactly how much because it's become an issue.

However, we do know some things like the cost of using Air Force One which just that alone is hundreds of thousands of dollars. This doesn't include the cost of his security or anything else either.

So just his flight there is more than his donation of his salary which was my point.

But I think it's quite clear that most estimates you look at range anywhere from 1 to 3 million. So you're free to come to whatever conclusion you want but all estimates far exceed $78,000.

a reply to: mOjOm

If it were only about money, Syria would be bankrupt right now. Instead, hundreds are killed in Syria every single day, and Americans are left bickering about Trump spending a few bucks here and there. Where's the humanity?

Money is supposed to flow. Or as they say, the spice must flow. And Trump is helping with that.

a reply to: allsee4eye

Yeah, Dune is a cool movie.

But nothing you said makes sense in the context of this thread or our conversation.

BTW, "I'm the Kwisatz Haderach"

Yet another 180, a lie. Still making you pay for his golfing trips. Still making you pay for his wife and kid to remain unnecessarily in trump tower.

And still the cult won't concede that this 180 is at all shady.

Baa.

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: mOjOm

If it were only about money, Syria would be bankrupt right now. Instead, hundreds are killed in Syria every single day, and Americans are left bickering about Trump spending a few bucks here and there. Where's the humanity?

Money is supposed to flow. Or as they say, the spice must flow. And Trump is helping with that.

A few bucks? Millions is a few bucks while he cuts public care programs? Come on.

a reply to: fencesitter85

If Obama is ethical to spy on political opposition using the IC, then it's ethical for Trump to spend millions of tax money on his wife and son in Trump tower. You don't complain about Obama, then you don't complain about Trump.

When did I mention Obama? What is it with you people and deflection? And since when did playground tit for tat two wrongs logic apply to major ethical issues?

If you want to talk about the ex president, make a thread for it. We're discussing Donnie.

a reply to: fencesitter85

Give me some specific numbers then we'll talk. Trump donated 78333 dollars to national park service.

a reply to: Byrd

I love this. You're literally mad that trump can use his own money and not tell you about it. You try to justify your outrage by making it out like he's directly taking taxpayer dollars.

Here's the problem. The money he was supposed to get, directly from taxpayers, was donated to the national parks. So instead of going:
Taxpayer>Trump

It goes:
Taxpayer>Mar-a-lago employees>then some of it goes to Trump

You realize you're getting mad about paying tax payers some money back instead of having it go directly into Trumps pocket, right?

a reply to: Dfairlite

What is your proof there is tax money going to Mar a Lago? If so, do you have any specific numbers?

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: fencesitter85

Give me some specific numbers then we'll talk. Trump donated 78333 dollars to national park service.

Oh please this is such a cop out of a response. You know I don't have the specific figures. Stop getting all your news from fox. The cost of his security, and the pressure on the local infrastructure during his visits is stacking up. Not to mention the cost of keeping his family at a completely separate location instead of the white house. He should have to pay the security costs himself in that case.

As for his meagre donation, I'm not impressed by hollow PR stunts. Charity isn't admirable when you do it on tv in front of cameras to make yourself look good.

Deny it all you like but if this was Obama or Hillary you'd all be foaming at the mouth about it. He's playing a hell of a lot of golf. The cult is in full hypocrisy and denial mode.

a reply to: fencesitter85

I'll you who has the specific numbers. The press does. This is public information. The numbers are not secret.

a reply to: allsee4eye

No, I'm assuming he is not giving his entourage free stays, just to be generous to the leftists.

But I just ran through an estimate of the numbers and it's nearly impossible for Trump to make more than he's giving away by charging the government for his stays at mar-a-lago.

a reply to: fencesitter85

Not to mention the cost of keeping his family at a completely separate location instead of the white house. He should have to pay the security costs himself in that case.

You're joking, right? You think the USA doesn't have a vested interest in keeping the first family safe?

You can say he's wasting money by doing that but to suggest that he should foot the bill for it is just absurd.