Trump can now tap money from his business, raising ethics concerns

originally posted by: mOjOm
How can you guys not see the issue here???

His business dealings are supposed to be in a blind trust remember??? His sons are supposed to be in charge of the Trump business now and Trump isn't supposed to be in charge of it at all.

It's a conflict of interest for The President to be handling his private business affairs while he's serving as President. He's not working for himself anymore remember??? He's working for the American People now.

FFS. Use you GD heads for once. This is yet one more lie on top of how many f*cking lies now???

When President Donald Trump placed his businesses in a trust upon entering the White House, he put his sons in charge and claimed to distance himself from his sprawling empire. “I hope at the end of eight years I’ll come back and say, ‘Oh you did a good job,’” Trump said at a Jan. 11 press conference. Trump’s lawyer explained that the president “was completely isolating himself from his business interests.”

LIES, LIES, LIES!!!!!

So what?!

Money for nothing.

Sounds good to me.

Don't you invest and get money for doing squat, too?

a reply to: Byrd

Maybe that will stop all the cry babies about him using all the white house money. Doubtful.

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It's his money. I think it's pension not salary since he does not have a position in the company. He does get millions of pension annually.

a reply to: mOjOm

A president is a temporary position. A person is not born president. The president maintains a private house and business which he had before he run for office.

Obama was making money off book sales while in the White House. Keep trying.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Trump donated his first pay as president today.

Has that been mentioned?

What Trump does with his paycheck is up to him.

Was he living paycheck to paycheck? Wasn't he prepared for all this? Doesn't he have money in the bank? Why does he suddenly need to draw from money that he promised the American people was locked away in the blind trust?

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Byrd

I can't believe we've reached such a collective pause in critical thought that people don't understand why this is a problem. Trump can literally run the nation according to the best interests of his businesses.

OR he is free to not be influenced as virtually every other President has been influenced.

I almost choked on my sammich.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Actually he has.

originally posted by: pheonix358
I was thinking ....

What if ....

Donald had to take the salary that comes with the job!

So he donates it as he said he would ...

Then yells out one day ... "I don't have any spending money!"

So he gets some money from the businesses that he spent his life building.

It is his wealth after all and we can see where it came from.

Let him spend it, it is supposed to trickle down, isn't it.

P

In THAT case, one would think a "shrewd" businessman getting into politics would understand WTF a few rainy day savings accounts are for, like normal people do. Not resort to dipping into the current profits of his businesses, which are supposed to be no touchie for him for 4 years.

The only way for people to not understand how this is a conflict of interest is for them to be utter retards of the highest order.

a reply to: Kali74

You bring up a great point. Obama wasn't as wealthy before entering the White House. Clinton either. Bush already had money.

Point being: they all profit from the office. I think it should be stopped. But not if the only reason is because all of a sudden its Trump and not Obama or Clinton.

a reply to: Nyiah

The only way for people to not understand how this is a conflict of interest is for them to be utter retards of the highest order.

Lol. Is that the best you have?

He is spending his own money. He is not making money from being the President ... not even the salary that comes with the job and you are complaining.

You seem hard to please. You need to work on the insults for when you run out of points to raise.

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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

What???

So now all of a sudden you think it should be stopped???

You argue with me for 3 pages telling me everything from I'm just jealous of his money to it's nothing because he hasn't done anything illegal yet (which is up for debate) but now you think it should be stopped and your reasoning for this also has the contingency of "But not if the only reason is because all of a sudden its Trump and not Obama or Clinton."

Holy sh*t is that some serious Bias showing!!!

Hope you don't carry that bias along with you when on duty around here.....

a reply to: mOjOm

Its a shame you choose to not understand.

So you're telling me that you feel its ok that you only chose to raise astink when it was Trump? I don't mind banning it. I do mind double standards.

a reply to: pheonix358

Yeah, he is making money being president. That's only been explained countless times in I don't know how many different threads here and articles in the news, etc. Not that the POTUS actually has to make money exactly since he doesn't have to spend money on anything while president.

But for starters just to enlighten you a bit. All the money in rent alone that TAXPAYERS pay when he stays at his OWN PROPERTY goes to him, you realize that right. Be it Trump Tower or Mar-a Lago or any other of his properties that he charges money for staying at, that' goes to him. He owns the place. Taxpayers are paying rent for him to stay at his own properties.

He's making money from being president in so many ways it's hard to count them all actually. Which is why it is so important for him to be separated from his businesses as President. The conflict of interest and ways to bribe or blackmail him are too numerous to count actually.

This has been explained already not to mention being simply obvious to anyone with half a brain. For that to be your opposing argument here is beyond laughable and kinda just insane too I might add.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

What's a shame is that you think that I don't agree with it simply because it's Trump!!!!

I've been quite clear on what my issue is with it. In fact I mentioned it being a conflict of interest on page one. But it seems when someone else says it, then and only then do you accept that as a valid reason. For me, you instead assume something else, ignore what I say and just continue to oppose what I'm saying for something else you've imagined and then kept to yourself for 3 pages until you finally come out with it.

You show me where I say it's fine for anyone else to be doing it and not Trump, Please????

a reply to: mOjOm

On page 1 you were outraged that Donald dare accept a cash distribution from one of his private holdings. You believed this was somehow him conducting business in office. You were wrong.

So however many pages you've spent rambling really isnt on topic....

....RE: how frequently i post....really? Its a conspiracy that I "wait 3 pages"? I couldn't possibly be watching TV with my wife on her night off?

Calm down man. We aren't even on topic here.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Dude, you're accusing me of supporting some double standard of which I never once said or implied at all and of which you have nothing to show as evidence that I do support such a thing.

Watching TV with your wife also didn't stop you from arguing with me for the last three pages so I don't know what excuse that is even suppose to be.

If you bothered to read what I and others have been saying here instead of just assuming you know our motives you might understand what I'm talking about.

Why the hell would I think it's only not ok because it's Trump??? I don't think I ever even brought up Obama or Hillary in this thread. I don't even like Hillary and thought Obama was just ok. Of course it's not ok for anyone else to be doing this same thing. WTF???

I'm so sick of everybody using that as some kind of assumed argument. Now even you're doing it and you should know better.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Trump can draw money from his more than 400 businesses, at any time, without disclosing it. The previously unreported changes to a trust document, signed on Feb. 10, stipulates that it “shall distribute net income or principal to Donald J. Trump at his request” or whenever his son and longtime attorney “deem appropriate.” That can include everything from profits to the underlying assets, such as the businesses themselves.

That's a little more than being able to draw some cash from one of his holdings.

The whole reason to put stuff in a Trust and have his sons in charge was to keep him from being involved. You know, the conflict of interest. Conflicts in the area of some 400 different businesses and properties in multiple countries around the world worth billions of dollars. Think any of those may be a bit of interest to the President while in office???

Think all those business deals may be used to leverage him??? Or how about used as means of bribery perhaps??? Or who knows what else???

Think about it man. There is a reason we don't allow this stuff. How is it you don't recognize his plutocratic ways of government and his overt nepotism with it happening right before your eyes????